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Which PC can run PMDG 737 NGX on FSX with FSDreamteam scenery and traffic at high FPS?

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I am not going to build a super computer (I am more curious but may put $$$ to upgrading if there is a CPU option or something) but I was wondering what kind of FPS people get with their super rigs on here? Like in New York, with FS Dreamteam scenery, running the PMDG 737 NGX and traffic? Not asking for sliders to be maxed out but a good level.Any takers on this?Daniel

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With mine I get mid 20's around FTX YMML with FTX BLUE and the NGX. Also have REX on and my WoAI traffic is set to around 90-100% most of the time. Settings are usually around the high with ground textures at 7cm, complexity at eighty (whenever i typed the numerals mega_shok.gif would come up) , autogen at Dense and autogen complexity at very dense. And in comparison to other airports, FTX YMML paired with BLUE is a real resource hog.

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I am not going to build a super computer (I am more curious but may put $$$ to upgrading if there is a CPU option or something) but I was wondering what kind of FPS people get with their super rigs on here? Like in New York, with FS Dreamteam scenery, running the PMDG 737 NGX and traffic? Not asking for sliders to be maxed out but a good level.Any takers on this?Daniel
I'm kicking in about 30s at FSDT KJFK and NGX, just did a flight a while ago, and that was not with just few clouds. I am locked at 30 too.Mind you though, I have my AI disabled, as I fly VATSIM only, if someone's online, fine, if not, well... also fine :)But with some 35% traffic, I'd be looking at about 25fps I would guess.Sliders are quite high, most are max, some almost max (basically water, autogen and clouds are not maxed).

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Reading with interest the set ups you guys use. Thanks for your time posting these. Because of your advice I have held back on buying a slower PC and saved up. Have a budget of £1000-£1100 to spend on a pc that can (cast iron Guaranteed) run NGX and Concorde X comfortably. If this budget is not enough I will wait as I don't want to put togethor a machine thatwill not do the job. Taking into account all the advice and opinions I am considering a machine from Chillbast (i5 over clocked with a GTX 570 and 16Gb Ram - 2 hard drives) this comes in at £1000.Or do I instead add the over clocked i7 2600K which would take me up to £1100. Later on in the year I would like to swap my hard drives for SSD . Also Is there a big difference betwwen the 570 gtx andthe 580 graphics cards in FSX? Just looking for steady frame rates before stunning visuals. Chill blast do a "superfortress" pc thats looks amazing but at £1399 is out of reach, do I save that, or do I need to if the above will do.Would appreciate any advice. Evan

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Build your own. Or get someone to build it for you. It'll save you a LOT of money. You could get the i5 and a gtx 560 for around £600-650 if you built it.

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Not got the expertise to build my own, nearest shop was charging £780 to build a lesser model. I just like the idea of warrantly and support with a bigger company, although I think you are right if I could find somewhere to build it for me. I just want to know if the i5 and GTX 570 will run things ok or is the i7 and GTX 580 worth waiting for. Thanks for any advice. Evan

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i5 and GTX570 is going to run almost as good as i7+GTX580. Almost I mean very very near.You could get i7+GTX580 if you build yourself for that money. It's actually easier than you think and with all the help here on the forums, it couldn't be easier.But if you let someone build, be sure you make the choice of components (with a bit of our help).

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Thanks Word Not Allowed, will go with the i5, have spent two weeks dithering over this. The company also offer a fsx install service at £60 to maximise setting etc. In your opinion is this worthwhileor would I be better just asking questions on the forum? Thanks for your help

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The company also offer a fsx install service at £60 to maximise setting etc. In your opinion is this worthwhileor would I be better just asking questions on the forum? Thanks for your help
No, that's not that money worth. Just let them setup you your computer and overclock if possible! Make sure you get a good cooler (I suggest you open a thread with data you are planing to buy and ask in the forum if it's good - many buy like that). You will then get suggestions what's good and what could be better.Tweaking FSX is best over forums, it takes a bit time to get it optimally running, but anyone claiming that he can do it just like that is either a really really major pro who has read hundreds of threads and all that (ala NickN, guys like us here etc), or he is just "selling" - know what I mean?You need well set up hardware, rest you should do here. Including Windows 7 install. Nothing better than clean W7 install with all the drivers and a cleanly installed chipset driver.

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Thanks Word Not Allowed I will let them set up the computer (before doing so I will start a new thread) then I will politely pester you guys on the forum. One day I can hopefullypass on the good will and be in a position to contribute to the forum.. thanks for your time.

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Not got the expertise to build my own, nearest shop was charging £780 to build a lesser model. I just like the idea of warrantly and support with a bigger company, although I think you are right if I could find somewhere to build it for me.I just want to know if the i5 and GTX 570 will run things ok or is the i7 and GTX 580 worth waiting for. Thanks for any advice. Evan
£780?! Please tell me that's including parts.

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the 780 included the optical drive and hard drive from my old computer. They were going to add an i5 2500 (no OC) and a 1.2Gb asus 560 also 16mb ram and a new PSU.Saw no sense trading in my old desk top as my wife uses it with all my software etc on it. if I am spending that amount I would like a new desk top solely for FSX.Thanks Evan

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Having spent all day on this I have decided to go for the spec below. I have beed advised toupgrade the PSU. In your opinion is this a well rounded system i.e the CPU and graphics card?Thanks for your help. Evan Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K Processor overclocked to 4.5GHzCooler: Corsair A70 CPU CoolerMotherboard: Asus P8Z68 Pro MotherboardVideo Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB Video CardCase: Xigmatek Elysium CaseMemory: 8GB PC3-12800 MemoryOptical: Samsung Blu Ray / DVD Combi DrivePrimary Drive: 120GB Corsair Force 3 6Gb/s SATA III SSDSecondary Drive 1000GB SATA 7200rpm Hard Disk (FSX)PSU: 750 watt Corsair PSUSound: Onboard High Definition AudioOS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

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Great system, you're gonna be enjoying your FSX.Oh btw. I would swap those disks - SSD for FSX and 7200rpm for windows - seriously, who needs windows fast when you are buying a system for FSX...

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Having spent all day on this I have decided to go for the spec below. I have beed advised toupgrade the PSU. In your opinion is this a well rounded system i.e the CPU and graphics card?Thanks for your help. EvanProcessor: Intel Core i7 2600K Processor overclocked to 4.5GHzCooler: Corsair A70 CPU CoolerMotherboard: Asus P8Z68 Pro MotherboardVideo Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB Video CardCase: Xigmatek Elysium CaseMemory: 8GB PC3-12800 MemoryOptical: Samsung Blu Ray / DVD Combi DrivePrimary Drive: 120GB Corsair Force 3 6Gb/s SATA III SSDSecondary Drive 1000GB SATA 7200rpm Hard Disk (FSX)PSU: 750 watt Corsair PSUSound: Onboard High Definition AudioOS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
The PSU you have at 750watts seems fine to me!!!The question is do you need to install a few fans for the cooling when you overclock? Or do you have a good air conditioner and a small room you can chill in at about 15C (60F approx)?I have never overclocked, but would like to know the requirements if you overclock to 4.0 Ghz.Also I have a 2400 i5, can that still be overclocked? Even though it is not the overclockers model? (The store I go to didn't have the overclockers model in stock when I bought it).Daniel

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Thank you both for your replies once again. Will swap those disks! do you agree I need a better PSU?Will let you know how I get on. Cheers Evan.

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Also I have a 2400 i5, can that still be overclocked? Even though it is not the overclockers model? (The store I go to didn't have the overclockers model in stock when I bought it).
It's very risky to overclock a non-K model. You have to up the base clock, which can't really be upped very high without endangering your whole mobo and CPU.Gains are probably negligible.IMHO, you are stuck at what you got.
do you agree I need a better PSU?
What? NO. 750w is plenty for what you are getting! See my sig, I know what my rig is pulling... and that ain't 750w.

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It's very risky to overclock a non-K model. You have to up the base clock, which can't really be upped very high without endangering your whole mobo and CPU.Gains are probably negligible.IMHO, you are stuck at what you got.What? NO. 750w is plenty for what you are getting! See my sig, I know what my rig is pulling... and that ain't 750w.
Thanks Word Not Allowed!! I am happy with what I have got anyway! Daniel

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Finally got my new system, i7 2600K OC with 580 graphics card. Running NGX and concorde X with Rex 2.0, also got ultimate terrain X and Ground environment X. Getting roughly 25-30Fps, falls to 11-19 fps when using aerosoft airports (to be expected?). Guess theres lots of tweaking I have still to do but overall happy with performance.Sometimes FSX crashes (not too often) but enough to have me wondering what updates I might still need. Sometimes get HRESULT 0x000014b??Is there any tweaks you guys would recommend. I have win 7 64 bit, SP1 and SP2.Thanks once again for your help/advice

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Finally got my new system, i7 2600K OC with 580 graphics card. Running NGX and concorde X with Rex 2.0, also got ultimate terrain X and Ground environment X.Getting roughly 25-30Fps, falls to 11-19 fps when using aerosoft airports (to be expected?). Guess theres lots of tweaking I have still to do but overall happy with performance.Sometimes FSX crashes (not too often) but enough to have me wondering what updates I might still need. Sometimes get HRESULT 0x000014b??Is there any tweaks you guys would recommend. I have win 7 64 bit, SP1 and SP2.Thanks once again for your help/advice
Use THIS. Also, make sure you overclock the total crap out of that CPU and you will be happy. :smile:

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