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AMD vs INTEL Processors

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I am going to build a new computer. I would like to hear from those of you who have high end AMD systems such as the new six or eight core processors. I am interested in your specifications and any trouble or problems you had with the system build.Also are you satisfied with the system and how have you had to adjust FSX to work on your computer.ThanksDon

Don Lillard

Don go Intel mate, i7 2600k you won't be disappointed, most here use that overclocked to about 4.5 dependent on chip, or you can wait for new Sandy Bridge due soon. I wouldn't touch AMD just my 2 cents. Wayne.

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Wayne HART

go Intel mate, i7 2600k
Best wait for Ivy Bridge and get PCIe 3 support (2x the BW of PCIe 2).Cheers,- jahman.
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Don go Intel mate, i7 2600k you won't be disappointed, most here use that overclocked to about 4.5 dependent on chip, or you can wait for new Sandy Bridge due soon. I wouldn't touch AMD just my 2 cents. Wayne.
Can you run this without water cooling?

Don Lillard

Can you run this without water cooling?
Absolutely. Lots of folks are getting good mid-4GHz range clocks on the SB CPUs with a decent air cooling solution. If you're shooting for 5 GHz, water might come in handy there.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

FlyerI have an i7 2600K on water cooling at 4.8GHz and it runs FSX superbly.IMHO AMD processors just don't have the same 'grunt' in cpu intensive games as their Intel counterparts. The SB cpu design was a step forward with a ring memory structure which makes it more powerful and it uses less power. The best performance per dollar is undoubtably the i5 2500K which when o/c it is nearly on a par with any of the i7's, couple that with a good z68 ver 3 mobo (which may support PCIE3), a 5xx series Geforce card, 8GB RAM, 64-bit OS and you have a good system.Sure you can wait for IvyBridge but remember what happened to SB when it was first released with all the issues with mobo's etc. Most experts predict a modest 10% in performance with IB over SB so will that make FSX perform faster and stutter free? Is PCIE3 going to make a major difference to FSX - maybe. Wait and see.RegardsPeterH

Agree with Pete but definitely no AMD chip

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Wayne HART

Sure you can wait for IvyBridge but remember what happened to SB when it was first released with all the issues with mobo's etc. Most experts predict a modest 10% in performance with IB over SB so will that make FSX perform faster and stutter free?Is PCIE3 going to make a major difference to FSX - maybe. Wait and see.
But let's be clear...that's a 10% clock-for-clock difference. The real question is will the new tri-gate transistor matrix and the smaller die allow for better overclocks? I'm hanging fire until the fog lifts on that one.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Best wait for Ivy Bridge and get PCIe 3 support (2x the BW of PCIe 2).Cheers,- jahman.
As Jahman has said, WAIT FOR IVY BRIDGE.Also, the Nvidia Kepler lineup will be released soon after the IB chips are rolled out to the market.An Ivy Bridge paired with an Nvidia Kepler will give you some seriously insane FSX performance.

Bob

But let's be clear...that's a 10% clock-for-clock difference
.Good point - I should have said that - thanks. For the rest of the citizens:With regard to greater performance with IB and the next gen Geforce, I seem to recall similar remarks for the i7 9xx and the later SB when they were released coupled initially with a GeForce 4xx and later a 5xx graphics card. :Thinking:But by the time IB et al is released, I guess that we'll all be talking about the yet undiscovered unnamed computer and graphics card we need to run "Flight :Party: ". I wonder if Intel and NVidia know about FSX?I'm a firm believer in the Law of diminishing returns! :Peace: PeterH

For FSX it's Intel.AMD's are good but not so good with FSX.

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

With regard to greater performance with IB and the next gen Geforce, I seem to recall similar remarks for the i7 9xx and the later SB when they were released coupled initially with a GeForce 4xx and later a 5xx graphics card. :Thinking:But by the time IB et al is released, I guess that we'll all be talking about the yet undiscovered unnamed computer and graphics card we need to run "Flight :Party: ". I wonder if Intel and NVidia know about FSX?I'm a firm believer in the Law of diminishing returns! :Peace:PeterH
Peter,Returns are actually increasing because Moore's Law is geometric, so this time around a 10% increase in performance is Moore :LMAO: than a 10% increase when SB came along because the base is now higher.Also what's important about IB is PCIe support (2x the BW of PCIe 2).Cheers,- jahman.

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The best performance per dollar is undoubtably the i5 2500K which when o/c it is nearly on a par with any of the i7's, couple that with a good z68 ver 3 mobo (which may support PCIE3), a 5xx series Geforce card, 8GB RAM, 64-bit OS and you have a good system.
I am pretty well convinced of this setup too for MY next build (SOON!) and consider waiting for the next hardware event (Ivy Bridge) to be a non-issue. FSX is not going to have any more input by Microsoft (performance improvements, is: patches). What hardware is available now will run FSX at high performance slider settings and high FPS so that is where I am going with my hardware selections.Antec Performance One Series P183 V3 ATX Mid Tower CaseASUS P8P^& Deluxe Intel MBIntel Core i5-2500K SB 3.3GHz ChipPolimatrich PRO Megahalems Rev. C CPU CoolerEvercool F 120x120 High Speed CPU FanEVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX560 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Video CardSeaSonic X-Series X-1050 PSUMushkin Enhanced Redline 8GB (2x4GB) 240Pin DDR3 1600 SDRAMSeagate ST3500411SV 500GB 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/S HDDMS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OSI am at about $1400 US from Newegg.Anyone who has input or suggestions on this receipe is appreciated. I researched each component selections for performance, price (some wife budgeting here of course....) and quietness.Thanks~~Don(Edited Case spec, liked the separate PSU chamber for cooling)

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I'm a firm believer in the Law of diminishing returns! :Peace:PeterH
Me too, especially when applied to the bank account because of this hobby! :Nerd:
ASUS P8P^& Deluxe Intel MB
Go for the Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3 motherboard. This will give full IB and PCIe3 compatibility.

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