February 15, 201214 yr I am currently using a Lynnfield i5 for FSX overclocked to 4.0Ghz and am considering moving to a Sandy Bridge i5 to improve FSX performance, especially in heavy airport areas and/or in heavy weather where performance can take a dive.As you guys know, the Lynnfield version is manufactured at 45nm, has a total L2 of 1MB, and an L3 of 8MB.The Sandy Bridge version is manufactured at 32nm, has a total L2 of 1MB, and an L3 of only 6MB.The only advantage of the Sandy Bridge is the 32nm manufacturing, so it had be overclocked to between 4.5Ghz to 5Ghz. Assuming the most unlikely overclock to 5Ghz, we are only talking a 20% increase in CPU speed (and we have to factor in 2MB less L3 cache), so I would expect an only minimal improvement. Is that correct, or am I missing something that says the Sandy Bridge version will likely make a more substantial improvement?I'll add this. Right now, I am using a Nvidia 275 and want to move to a Nvidia 570 card, and I want to impliment the BP=0 modification. I don't know if this information adds anything to the equation.I appreciate any advice you guys can give.thanks,RH
February 15, 201214 yr If you upgrade the GPU to something like the GTX570 paired with an Intel Core i7 2700K@5GHZ, the performance jump would be fantastic. The only reason I recommend the 2700K is due to the higher binning. The 2700's typically run @ higher clocks than the 2600's and run on lower voltage.Also, if you are going to upgrade, definitely go for the Asus P8Z68 Deluxe motherboard. With this motherboard, you are PCIe3 ready AND Ivy Bridge ready. (If you ever wanted to upgrade.)ORYou can wait for 2 more months and get an Ivy bridge Z77 board and a 3770K. Edited February 15, 201214 yr by benorg
February 15, 201214 yr Robbie, Sandy Bridge is a new architecture that peforms better clock for clock (like a 15%). I made that 4GHz Lynnfield to 4.8GHz Sandy Bridge upgrade and saw about a 40% perf boost.I have to disagree with Ben, there's no eveidence that the 2700K & 2600K overclock any better than the 2500K, and the little extra L3 cache is a non factor, but it's true it won't hurt to wait for IB since Nehalem is still the second best CPU for FSX, and a very capable one when OC'ed like yours is Edited February 15, 201214 yr by dazz
February 15, 201214 yr I have to disagree with Ben, there's no eveidence that the 2700K & 2600K overclock any better than the 2500K, and the little extra L3 cache is a non factor, but it's true it won't hurt to wait for IB since Nehalem is still the second best CPU for FSX, and a very capable one when OC'ed like yours isThe better 2600K's are now getting labeled as 2700K. I wouldn't go out and buy a 2600K anymore because all of the good chips are getting sold as 2700's.
February 15, 201214 yr You can wait for 2 more months and get an Ivy bridgeYes! Tri-Gate and PCIe 3 (2x the BW of PCIe 2, PCIE 3 support required on the MB and of course also the video adapter.)The better 2600K's are now getting labeled as 2700K. I wouldn't go out and buy a 2600K anymore because all of the good chips are getting sold as 2700's.That's what I would do if I were Intel.Cheers,- jahman.
February 15, 201214 yr Yes! Tri-Gate and PCIe 3 (2x the BW of PCIe 2, PCIE 3 support required on the MB and of course also the video adapter.)Look at my sig. :LMAO:
February 15, 201214 yr It doesn't look to me like they overclock any better than 2500K & 2600K'shttp://www.overclock.net/t/968053/official-the-sandy-stable-club-guides-voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet/0_40#
February 15, 201214 yr PCIE 3 support required on the MB and of course also the video adapter.)I recommended the P8Z68... He could build a SB system and later fully upgrade to IB+PCIe3. I kind of wish I had stuck with Z68 rather than P67 now...
February 15, 201214 yr I recommended the P8Z68... He could build a SB system and later fully upgrade to IB+PCIe3. I kind of wish I had stuck with Z68 rather than P67 now... Told ya'. OP, a +1 here. Ivy Bridge is right around the corner. Right now is one of those few times that computer builders should wait for a new architecture or die shrink. Late March to Early April. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
February 15, 201214 yr It doesn't look to me like they overclock any better than 2500K & 2600K'shttp://www.overclock...readsheet/0_40# What I got from that is a high percentage (nearly all) of the 2700k CPUs hitting 4.8+ and with consistently lower voltages than the 2500k/2600k. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 15, 201214 yr What I got from that is a high percentage (nearly all) of the 2700k CPUs hitting 4.8+ and with consistently lower voltages than the 2500k/2600k.Mine runs @ about 1.355Vcore @ 4.8. As far as I know, Word Not Allowed's chip requires much more Vcore at the same voltage. He has a 2600K.
February 15, 201214 yr What I got from that is a high percentage (nearly all) of the 2700k CPUs hitting 4.8+ and with consistently lower voltages than the 2500k/2600k.The 2700K sample size is not big enough, but the difference is minimal. For 4.8GHz the avg Vcore for a 2500K is 1.408V, 2600K is 1.392V and 1.376V for the 2700K (only 5 entries)Mine does 4.8GHz at 1.36V too, It's still a gamble no matter which one you get. Edited February 15, 201214 yr by dazz
February 15, 201214 yr Ben "The better 2600K's are now getting labeled as 2700K. I wouldn't go out and buy a 2600K anymore because all of the good chips are getting sold as 2700's"Does that mean all the "bad" 2600's are being sold as 2500's? :Peace:To the OP just check with Bjote on the BP=0 i thought at one time he was recommending a video card with 2GB VRAM for that to work - but I could be mistaken.RegardsPeterH
February 15, 201214 yr BenTo the OP just check with Bjote on the BP=0 i thought at one time he was recommending a video card with 2GB VRAM for that to work - but I could be mistaken.RegardsPeterHPeter,Your memory is correct on that one (I think), but if so, he was mistaken. I run B=0 on my 1.5g card for a noticable performance increase without an obvious down side.Kind regards,
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