It makes flying fun! Ok, it's not hardcore per say verses FSX, but you can fly stuff around, like a mini version of FSX Cargo. There is enough fun things to do making it a very enjoyable Sunday flying type sim. Though it lacks helicopters, as that would make it even .. funner, you can fly more chickens in a plane anyways. I will be flying FSX for years to come, but for the fun factor, Flight did a great job, and can easily become a hard core sim if the powers to be wish it. It is fun, looks great, has chickens, and a ton of potential to boot!

I agree with you.Btw, Flight keeps giving these subtle hints on what might be coming, saw a message yesterday that you might need a seaplane or helicopter for certain aerocashes...So keep the faith!

Well for me, the three things I love above all else are the performance, the wonderful visuals, and (I know this is just a subjective inexpert opinion), a flight model that really does make me feel like I am flying. I never got that feeling from any MS flight sim before. When I look at my take-offs and approaches, they now really look much more like the real-world videos on Youtube.Oh, and one other thing. For the first time since FS98 - no massive hardware upgrade required. This is the first time I have not had to change a single piece of hardware to run it.

It's Sli-Capable!

Hoping they create a back woods beer run mission and get points for non breakage. Breakage equals spilled beer, thus calm the thirsty chickens. That way you would not loose as many points on the delivery run. Helicopters are hard to fly so even if Flight is not "hard core", the flying aspects alone, ie: landing at a difficult LZ's would be a hoot to do. FSX payware Dodo Bell 208 in any sim would be fun to fly. For me it is the machine that makes a sim hard core, for my type flying, VOR, helicopter / bush. If Flight would have one of those babies as a helicopter that would tickle my fancy. For me, flying is flying as long as the flight model is reasonable. My flights are usually short hops, less that 45 minutes, so not needing a huge geographic area to have fun. I am sure Flight will keep raising the bar and add more hard core elements to it as time unfolds. I am a nap of the earth bush flyer so anything to do with nice visuals at low level I find appealing.Are you running it Triple head? If so, performance? Thanks.

It's Sli-Capable!

Edited March 4, 201214 yr by drumsonly2002

a flight model that really does make me feel like I am flying

I'm feeling the same thing (except when you reach the limits of the flight envelope it goes a bit weird), but otherwise the air feels much more real. Its random and and severe near hills and cliffs and tree lines and during every landing I have to stay on my toes in case I get blown to one side, which is what happens when landing a real plane.Its no successor to FSX however for some GA fun and even for landing practice for private pilots, it has a lot going for it....and that fog, is there nothing more awesome than that?

#1 - Flight Model. The FM feels real. For me, the coolest thing about Flight is how much better if feels that FSX, which felt like FS9, which felt like FS8, which felt like FS7, etc. The FS series has always been very sterile, predictable, mechanical, and, frankly unrealistic. I'm all about the FM - that's the most important thing to me and this is the first product from any company that is convincing. I have no RW experience in an RV, Maule, ICON, or Stearman but do have 10 student hours in a 152, and, for whatever reason(s), Flight is much, much better at tricking me.

...and that fog, is there nothing more awesome than that?

Well, fying through any weather feels awesome to me. I mean it comes at you and envelopes you - I never got that sort of feeling in any earlier version. I almost feel I could stick my hand out and it would get wet (though I would not want to do that in the real thing at 145 knots - it would probably go black and drop off).

a flight model that really does make me feel like I am flying. I never got that feeling from any MS flight sim before. When I look at my take-offs and approaches, they now really look much more like the real-world videos on Youtube.

It also seems to me that the sense of speed is quite right. Of course this depends on the zoom settings, but in FSX it often didn't feel quite right (too slow). When I am landing now, it feels just right. There really is a sense of SPEED. Also when you fly, specially through (even very light) fog.

I almost feel I could stick my hand out and it would get wet (though I would not want to do that in the real thing at 145 knots - it would probably go black and drop off).

Funny you say that: I also posted something similar elsewhere: you can almost feel the cold when for instance flying at dawn or dusk! I love that light fog I mentioned above!

Edited March 4, 201214 yr by J van E

I've said since day 1, the sensation of landing in Flight is better than anything I've flown on a PC. The immersion factor, for me, is huge. I'm a 45 hour Sport Pilot flying a Cessna SkyCatcher (which I'd LOVE to see in Flight!!) if that means anything.

I agree the speed does seem "right", though personally I find the default view zoomed out too far (i.e what you see if you hit the centre view button). I tend to zoom a couple of ntches closer in. Sometimes this is frustrating though. The Stearman instrument panel is very close by default but zooming back gives me an un-realistic feeling of speed. But if I move the seat back, I am actually sitting on the fueselage back-bone before the view feels right. I guess this is always going to be a compromise when using this with a 16 x 9 ratio single monitor.

I've said since day 1, the sensation of landing in Flight is better than anything I've flown on a PC. The immersion factor, for me, is huge. I'm a 45 hour Sport Pilot flying a Cessna SkyCatcher (which I'd LOVE to see in Flight!!) if that means anything.

I already had to do some landings (for instance on a very small dirt strip with trees right along it!) that were really scary... I can't remember being scared in FSX. With trees on the sides, the sense of speed is even bigger!

It also seems to me that the sense of speed is quite right. Of course this depends on the zoom settings, but in FSX it often didn't feel quite right (too slow). When I am landing now, it feels just right. There really is a sense of SPEED. Also when you fly, specially through (even very light) fog.

+1I wasn't going to go into all the details, but yeah, how speed is built up and how it needs to be bled off to land is fanastic. Flaps, engine management, angle of attack, etc play great roles in the immersion factor for these light planes.

I agree the speed does seem "right", though personally I find the default view zoomed out too far (i.e what you see if you hit the centre view button). I tend to zoom a couple of ntches closer in. Sometimes this is frustrating though. The Stearman instrument panel is very close by default but zooming back gives me an un-realistic feeling of speed. But if I move the seat back, I am actually sitting on the fueselage back-bone before the view feels right. I guess this is always going to be a compromise when using this with a 16 x 9 ratio single monitor.

I also think the default position is FAR too way back! Maybe you already know this but I never change the zoom (which imho is perfect for the scenery and the sense of speed) but I change the position. Changing zoom is done with - and + (you zoom in to the VC but also to the scenery) and changing the position (forward and backward) is done with control-E and control-Q.I have default settings for my aircraft (I only have to remember the position of a certain item onscreen to easily reproduce the exact same position everytime). Unfortunately every view change is reset when you press backspace, but as I said, changing the position is very easily and exactly reproducable.The advantage of changing the position instead of the zoom is that when you ONLY change the position, the zoom on the world is the exact same in every aircraft and so also the sense of speed, while you can setup your preferred position in every aircraft differently.

Edited March 4, 201214 yr by J van E

I cannot imagine what Flight is going to be like in the future. It has such a fantastic foundation or "flight formula" that I cannot wait to try it with faster planes. For me, I am so glad the FM was updated - I would have hated to see Flight continue on with the FSX 'formula'. Had it, I'd probably delete it by now as it would have been a disappointing deja vu' x11.Kudos to MSFT for the improvement

Edited March 4, 201214 yr by Rush1169