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I realise this is an incredibly versatile program, does not need you to repeat the same phrases like a recorded announcement to make things work.

 

For this very reason, there are lots of ways of doing things.

 

I thought we could start a thread in which we could add what "finds" we have made which make this program tick.

 

I will start by saying a "must"... Go into the checklist tab, and select the appropriate checklist for your aircraft, dont leave it at generic, specially if you want to use the program with the NGX or the Wilco A320/321.

 

For the NGX, select the PMDG NGX checklist, or the scripts wont work.

 

 

 

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If you have AES or GSX, find your mce.ini file, in it you will find the entry "groundservices=native" this is the default setting, which means it will use FSX services.

 

Simply change "native" to either AES or GSX and presto, you no longer need to specifically call either program. As soon as you start MCE, it will engage ground services and you can control either program via MCE's voice control.

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Good thread. :smile:

 

Lets see, I think this one is still valid. If you want your FO to NOT listen when you press PTT push to talk (e.g. for online ATC or VoxATC or whatever), you set

UseWithVoxATC=1

in the mce.ini at AppData\Roaming\Multi Crew Experience.

 

So when you press the button, the FO won't listen to everything you say, means that speaking about altitudes and frequencies while pressing the PTT won't mix him up.

 

Not my discovery though, but surely useful.

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If you want to stop the FO from 'nagging' permanently:

 

Open mce.ini in C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Roaming\Multi Crew Experience\mce.ini (your system must be set to show hidden files and folders)

Change "DisableNagging=0" to "DisableNagging=1" save the file.

 

When in a GA aircraft, make sure you uncheck the 'callouts and monitoring on the 'generals' tab of the MCE iinterface tab. This will also stop the FO from 'nagging', but you can still use him

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The NGX uses SDk for comms, once you enter v speeds on the FMS, MCE will read the values and make the callouts.

 

For all other a/c, simply tell tour FO:

"Takeoff V1 is XXX" and you will be asked to confirm, reply with Yes, Affirm, etc

 

Do the same for VR and V2

 

You can also tell the FO destination and runway in use

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Something else to note, if you use the F/O:

 

Starting from version 2.4.8.6, as soon as at least one engine is running, FO won't switch off any of these without confirmation.

 

Autopilot OFF

Autothrottle disarm

FD one off

FD two off

 

Switching items ON doesn't require confirmation.

Also, no need for confirmation when no engine is running.

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Good morning, everyone! It's the Ol' Blackbird, from sunny southern NH, USA.......

 

Don't know if this is of any value, per se.......but......

 

If you own any of the great TTS voices from Ivona or ATT or Cepstral, etc., you can assign the same voice to BOTH MCE and VoxATC. What this does is eliminate that "annoyance" of having 2 different F.O. voices (this just occured to me the other day - DUH!)

 

To me this increases the realism factor (IMHO).

 

That's it!!

 

 

All best,

Ray L. (Blackbird)

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Good tip there Ray, especially if people are using both MCE and VoxATC. (Hmmm; might need to look into VoxATC....off to do some research :Nerd:

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Thanks, "Alpha"....... you know, I use both Vox and RC4, and I like both programs very much (btw, I am not a real world pilot) - I would be hard pressed to pick a "winner". The latest version of VoxATC (v 6.6) is outstanding.

 

That being said, I think I have said somewhere else on these Forums that the "Meatwater" pre-recorded AI Pilot voices and chatter in RC4 make that program (overall) just a bit more immersive (again, IMHO). Both programs provide great "bang for the buck", though, and add much value to FSX - just like MCE.

 

If I may add one more tidbit here......(again, something I just discovered)........ when using RC4, I just found out I can tell Trav (or whomever is my F.O.) to "Tune Ground on Com 1", or "Tune Tower on VHF 1", etc., and MCE will dial in the appropriate frequency - I don't have to tell him (or her) the numbers. AMAZING!! Likewise, on the way into an airport, I can ask Trav what the ILS frequency is for a particular runway......he knows!!!

 

 

Every day I am truly amazed at MCE and what it can do.

 

 

Thanks......

 

Best,

Ray Landolt (Blackbird)

 

P.S. - thanks to you Alpha, also, for posting the "useful info about MCE". Great stuff!

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No Problem Ray,

 

Yep, Telling Travis to tune to 'ground' etc is very good. I have a question for you as a VoxAtc user. Does it work with Ultimate Traffic 2 OK?

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Hi again, Alpha....... though it's been a while since i've used UT2 (I went back to Traffic X), if I recall correctly, VoxATC worked just fine with UT2.

 

However, you must go into Vox's settings and turn their traffic generator to ZERO, or else you'll have more traffic than you know what to do with!!! Haaa haa!! Vox adds their traffic to whatever other traffic you already have.

 

Personally, I do it the other way around when using Vox. I go into my FSX.cfg and turn the Traffic X traffic to zero, and let Vox generate my traffic - does a great job for me.

 

 

Good luck!!

 

Best,

Ray L. (Blackbird)

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Wow!!! That is expensive!!! I use the U.S. version..... much less expensive. But I guess if you want to fly in Europe (I see you are from the UK), then it will be more expensive. Yikes! Good luck with your decision making!

 

 

Best,

Ray L (Blackbird)

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What....this must be the most expensive addon, ever

 

http://www.flightsto...gn=froogle#3290

 

That's 131USD...Just%20Kidding.gif , never going to happen here, anyway

You should buy direct, which is half the price. http://www.voxatc.co...e.aspx/Register

Registration costs £44.99
There is a £20.0 discount for version 5 registered users.

I don't know why the other store is that expensive. The UK addition (I don't have it) can't be that important and flying in Europe works fine.

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For all those people who want the FO to preform more actions simultaneously; this only applies to 'switch flipping and there is a minimum of 2 seconds between 2 consecutive requests.

 

Add this options somewhere in the [speech] section of the ine file:

 

MaxConcurrentTasks=6

 

When option is missing it defaults to 4.

You can set values from 3 to 10.

 

Make sure you are running version 2.4.9.4

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MaxConcurrentTasks=6 (and up to 10 - wow!)

 

Very cool!!!

 

How do you come up with this stuff?

 

Thanks, Clive!!!

 

All Best,

Ray Landolt (Blackbird)

 

 

P.S. - Thought I was gonna have time to check out the new F.O. voice - hasn't been possible today......."Life happening!!" Haaa haaa!!!

 

P.S.S. - I sooooo hope MCE will eventually be able to totally interface with both Aerosoft's new version of its Airbus (when it comes out next month), as well as the upcoming PMDG 777. Maybe even FSLabs Airbus - but I think we still have a while to wait on that one. Thanks in advance, FS++!!!!!

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MaxConcurrentTasks=6 (and up to 10 - wow!)

 

Very cool!!!

 

How do you come up with this stuff?

 

Thanks, Clive!!!

 

All Best,

Ray Landolt (Blackbird)

 

 

P.S. - Thought I was gonna have time to check out the new F.O. voice - hasn't been possible today......."Life happening!!" Haaa haaa!!!

 

P.S.S. - I sooooo hope MCE will eventually be able to totally interface with both Aerosoft's new version of its Airbus (when it comes out next month), as well as the upcoming PMDG 777. Maybe even FSLabs Airbus - but I think we still have a while to wait on that one. Thanks in advance, FS++!!!!!

 

I hear you Blackbird! The good thing about MCE is they dont need an SDK to integrate, they are pretty knowledgable in C++ and the FSX SDK.

 

But if either of the releases comes with an SDK, basically does all the programming for you, so it is just about a given.

 

I believe the new Aerosoft Airbus, FSLabs and the PMDG birds will all come with an SDK!

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New tip - backup your Windows speech training profile! We spend alot of time on voice training to get good results, would hate to lose all that work if you have to reinstall or lose a hard disk.

 

1. Get the tool to backup your profile from here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-au/download/details.aspx?id=16296

I have tried this backup tool on Windows 7 64bit, I don't know the procedure for XP etc.

 

2. Run WSRProfile.exe

 

3. Pick the profile (should usually be default), and backup to a safe location. I save mine into my Dropbox folder which gets uploaded to the net automatically.

 

You'll know if you picked the wrong profile because the file output will be too small, it should be over 10mb and much bigger if you've done lots of training. Mine is sitting at 200mb now filled with my strong Aussie accented phrases that Anna struggled to understand :)

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Good morning, Dan W (and everyone!).......the Ol' Blackbird is here - just for a second.

 

Dan - great tip - thank you! I neve knew we could do that kind of backup.

 

I just back up my whole C: Drive - with Acronis True Image. I have version 11 - it works amazingly well - has never failed me. Been using it now for several years.

 

But - I like the idea of also backing up just the speech training.....so, thanks!

 

 

Have a great day, everyone! I'm off to a baby shower.....wish I was flying there, but, alas.....I'm driving.

 

 

All best,

Ray Landolt (Blackbird)

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If you want to set the speech recognition sensibility, insert this in  [sPEECH], mce.ini

 

ConfidenceLevel=100

 

Set to  "0" the sensibility is very low, if you set it to "100" the speech recognition have to lisen the exact words for trigger the actions.

If you do not have this value in your [sPEECH] options, then is set by default to "50".

 

You can play with it if you have recognition problems.

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Hi all...I can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere. I've been using MCE for some time but never tried to control the FS Menus with it. I'm trying to make that work but I can't seem to find exactly what to say to activate the menus. I've been guessing with phrases like "FS menu Aircraft" or "menu World" but this is beyond my guessing ability. Does anyone know what to say to MCE to activate the FS menus?

 

Thanks in advance,

Bob

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Hi all...I can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere. I've been using MCE for some time but never tried to control the FS Menus with it. I'm trying to make that work but I can't seem to find exactly what to say to activate the menus. I've been guessing with phrases like "FS menu Aircraft" or "menu World" but this is beyond my guessing ability. Does anyone know what to say to MCE to activate the FS menus?

 

Thanks in advance,

Bob

 

Unlike FS9 menu, FSX menu isn't a standard Windows menu, and I believe voice control for that specific element is lacking.

 

You could sort of get the menu going with "Aircraft menu" command, then when menu has the focus, say "down", "down" until item is highlighted, then "Enter" to select it. But that's tedious to be honest.

 

Instead, we have built many commands that would select menu items directly as if you clicked them.

 

Assuming you have feature "User voice control" is enabled in "General tab" and option "Dialog boxes" is ticked in <Sim> tab, you could say

 

Display time and season dialog

 

When the FSX dialog window appears, speak the items labels to select them, and "OK" to validate or "cancel" to dismiss the changes.

 

Example "time of day night" to select night time flight. "season spring", followed by "OK" will get the time and season change

 

Commands for interacting with dialog buttons and list boxes are only available when MCE switches to DIALOG MODE.

 

Other invoking commands.

 

Show weather dialog

Show go to airport dialog.

Show select flight dialog.

Show flight planner dialog.

Show navigation log dialog.

Show flight log dialog.

Show realism settings dialog.

Show system failures dialog.

Show scenery library dialog.

Show instant replay dialog.

Show flight video dialog.

Show flight analysis dialog.

Show keyboard assignments dialog.

Show view options dialog.

Show general settings dialog.

Show display settings dialog.

Show sound settings dialog.

Show map dialog.

Show fuel dialog.

Show logbook dialog.

 

In commands above, you get more variations by replacing "Show" with "Display", "Open", "bring-up" and replacing "dialog" with "window" or "screen".

 

Using the power built into Voxscript, instead of memorizing these commands, you could create new elaborate commands, such as "set me up for night time flight", then as part of the script...

 

show time and season dialog

pause=5

time of day night

ok

 

Suggest you enable "Require confirmation" so it doesn't trigger by accident.

 

You then invoke the command "set me up for night time flight" (or anything you want to use as the trigger sentence) and FSX would be set accordingly, without you clicking anything.

 

Another example. Let;'s say your favorite hub is KJFK, and often starting from there. Could have a custom command such as "take me to my home airport", then as part of the script...

 

open go to airport window

by airport id

kilo julliett foxtrot kilo

pause=2

ok

 

...and you should be warped there. Again you don't want that to happen by accident, therefore secure the script so it requires confirmation first.

 

I am guessing you need these mainly for the Rift or other VR systems, as the menus are extremely hard to read.

 

Besides the commands above, be aware, there are built-in commands to relocate aircraft in FSX. They all require confirmation (TTS voice prompt). Example. 

 

Position aircraft at Echo Golf Lima Lima runway two seven right (to set you up at Heathrow runway 27L)

 

Position aircraft at Echo Golf Lima Lima gate bravo two (to get to specific gate which must exist)

 

Position aircraft at Echo Golf Lima Lima (to simply get to the airport default location)

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Thanks very much for your help Gerald. This was very helpful and worked as you said. I see now how to work with menus by voice. Thanks again...Bob.

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