I need help with making flight plans with real procedures. Im not really sure how to go about doing this. I prettty much am only flying A320's & E190's now and so I want to get this stuff figured out. Im going to be flying out of KLGB to KLAS. and my route im suppose to fly is SENIC1 DAG KEPEC2.

If you're lookig for the charts go to airnav. Enter the airport download the chart for your SID/STAR study it program your FMC and go for it. Takes some practice and reading but nothing to complicated.

yeah, SENIC1 is my departure. DAG im guessing is the route i follow between airports. Then KEPEC2 would be my Arrival.

 

So on this departure I would have to manually put in each of these to the FMC (MOXIE, SENIC, SEBBY, DAGGET) ?

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1206/00236SENIC.PDF

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I go over entering way points and general FMC programming & management.

 

The Embraer and Airbuses are slightly different in minute detail, but the overall thought process is similar for Boeing, and Airbus.

 

Hope that helps :)

Depending on the complexity of your FSX aircraft (i.e. if it has a fairly realistic FMC), then what you should be able to do is go to the arrival and departures pages in the FMC and add the SID and the STAR, which will put all the waypoints for those procedures in there for you, so no, you don't normally have to put all the procedure waypoints in yourself. Thus the only bits you should have to add, are the route waypoints between the SID and the STAR, and then close up any discontinuities by copying the waypoint below the discontinuity into the scratchpad and then pasting it into the discontinuity, which will close them up. Stick in the cruise al**ude and hit 'execute' and you should be more or less done.

 

Al

I've been using this site to get up to date plans to punch into the feelThere ERJ:

 

http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/

 

Separately you can then choose runways, then from there choose your arrival and departure.

 

This will work fine for the EJets too.

Format is usually...

 

Depature Name Departure Fix (enroute navaids if any) Arrival Fix Arrival Name

 

Example....

 

(For KLAX to KLAS)

 

LOOP6 DAG CLARR2 (in this case DAG is the end of the departure route but it is also the start of the arrival route)

 

What ATC would see is KLAX LOOP6 DAG CLARR2 KLAS

 

p.s. I'd recommend not just going to simroutes and finding a route... it's much more fun to learn how to file your own, and where the points connect etc etc.

How do you find your own Ryan?

 

Using a tool like FS Commander or on the web?

 

What's the real world procedure to create the plan, do airlines have plans already made centrally by someone or does each pilot create them each day/week etc for themselves?

I thought dispatchers make the routes?

Usually the airlines create them rather than individual pilots doing so, and then they file them in bulk, well in advance of the actual dates, which they can do because they are basically the same as bus or train timetables, i.e. the same flights the same time of day week in week out.

 

Al

Thanks got the hang of it. You guys are too damn helpful here lol.

I just cant wait for the FSL A320. Guna be so good. Oh the realism is guna be rediculous.

Usually the airlines create them rather than individual pilots doing so, and then they file them in bulk, well in advance of the actual dates, which they can do because they are basically the same as bus or train timetables, i.e. the same flights the same time of day week in week out.

 

Al

 

Thanks

 

So if I use something like FlightAware and get actual routes it's realistic.

 

Although when flying charter regional I may make up my own routes. J41 has only 1 or 2 routes in Australia so that's a bit limiting.

Flightaware is perfect. Those are real world flight plans. I use it with FSBuild.

Sure it's realistic... but they know what they're doing and the understand the route structure already... You're new so you don't want to just file those routes because many STARS and DP's require special procedures (especially at the start of the DP) and you can read the narrative at this site... I'd recommend using http://aeronav.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=aeronav/applications/d_tpp

for charts to get a feel for the procedures. You'll find many of the procedures have page two or even page three - be sure to read that over before flying the route.

Thanks for the link.

 

Any good place to get the charts and waypoints that's international?

 

I can get Aussie ones from air services, but would be good to have a central go to for all flights