Hi Guys,

 

I'm still on the hunt for a good ATC solution, where I can speak to the ATC. After trying VoxATC I'm not 100% happy with it for a few reasons.

 

So I'm looking at RC.

 

To speak to RC, I know there are both options MCE or IYP. Since I don't care to control my plane by voice (I have controls for that), the only reason I would buy either product is to speak to ATC and RC.

 

So I'm hoping to hear from experienced users which one works best for speaking to RC (and for VFR speaking to default FSX atc).

 

I trialled MCE with default ATC with mixed results, readbacks didn't always work but it may need more training.

I haven't tried IYP yet.

 

many thanks

 

ps I just noticed IYP trial does NOT include speaking with ATC. So I'd be buying it blind..

I'm relying on you guys to tell me if IYP works well with ATC :)

Hello

I use VAC http://www.dwvac.com/ to control Radar Contact and PFE by voice.

It is easy enough to create your own control set for RC and you can use multiple different phrases for each command.

I have found the recognition to be near perfect, something that I never got with MCE.

Hi

 

How does it know which control sets to use?

 

Does it read what Radar Contact puts on screen?

 

Or does it globally listen for ALL phrases you have programmed into it?

 

How does it handle callsigns? Can I change call signs each flight? Or would that mean re programming the recognition?

How does it know which control sets to use?

 

 

Hello

 

1: You load your Radar contact control set that you have previously programmed into VAC

 

2: No, it sends a keystroke to RC depending on what you say.

 

3: It listens when you press your push to talk button, then sends the relevant keystroke to RC just as you would with a normal radio.

 

4: RC knows about call signs, the voice recognition does not need to , it will only act on the parts of your phrases that you have programmed into your RC control set and skip over words it does not recognise.

You can have multiple replies programmed for any RC command.

 

Why not try it, there is a free demo.

Thanks I might try that.

 

Would you mind sharing the control set you created for it to get me started?

 

Cheers

This is an interesting topic. As a new user of both RC and FS2Crew (voice edition) for the 737NGX, I'm intrigued to read that you're able to use VAC to interact with RC. I've looked up as much as I could find on VAC and it raises a couple of questions. Primarily, how do you request a different flight level or a direct routeing to a specific fix in your flightplan (since, as far as I know, the corresponding menu key choices can't be anticipated)?

Any advice you can offer will be gratefully received.

Hi Taipan,

you might be interested to look at my post at IYP regarding the strenghts and limitations of IYP (I'm using IYP for two years with good results):

 

http://www.itsyourpl...hp?topic=1382.0

 

AFAIK it's only MCE where your FO can directly talk to RC4, with all other applications (including old VoiceBuddy) there will be another FO in the cockpit who will pass on your voice commands to RC4. This is a somewhat simplistic approach but it works rather well.

I tried MCE with mixed results: It handled the plane rather well but transmission to RC4 was bad.

 

Cheers, Andreas

Thanks for the info.

 

I purchased MCE in the end because of the control I get from it.

 

i.e. all the files are on my own computer, I can customise them, create checklists, create vox scripts, voices, etc.

 

I haven't tried it with RC4 yet though due to lack of time (I only just purchased RC4 too!), but it's working with default ATC so far after some training.

I would be interested to hear how it works with RC4.

I like the more sophisticated approach of MCE but, despite excellent support from the MCE team, I could get the communication with RC4 to work properly,

Andreas

I'm interested too.

 

Cheers,

Dirk.

Sorry, I just saw that a word was missing in my post above

 

"... despite excellent support from the MCE team, I could NOT get the communication with RC4 to work properly,"

 

So I'm still interested to hear how Taipan is doing.

Cheers, Andreas

Hi guys

 

I haven't had a chance to dig into radar contact yet.

 

I've been using MCE with default atc though. For the most part it does work if you follow the script cheat sheet. Doing my flight training though I've realised the phraseology is quite different here in Australia. So I might be moving to Vatsim instead.

 

WR has it working with RC I think, make a post on the MCE forum and see how you go.

 

 

One question,

 

I'm a big FS2Crew fan so I dont need the MCE per say. Is it doable to dissable everything exept the voice recog to talk to RC4?

I dont like VoxATC all that much (I also use Ultimate Traffic 2).

 

Any suggestions?

 

BTW: I'll be trying the VAC demo this evening and see if I cant acheive the desired result.

 

Thanks

Chris

There should be no problems with FS2Crew and UT2.

 

Yes, it's possible to disable the co-pilot in MCE just using it to talk to RC4, although, as I said before, it didn't work well on my system.

 

One of the main drawback (in my perception) with MCE is that it's impossible to hand the comms to the RC4 co-pilot (or use the "tune on contact" feature), meaning you have to do all handoffs and contacts yourself in a 3-step procedure (ack handoff, dial new freq, make contact) which takes time. Because of the ridiculously short "nag-time" of RC4 I practically never succeeded.

 

VAC (as other gaming voice-to-keystroke apps, like old VoiceBuddy) seems to be usable if you accept a second co-pilot in your cockpit.

 

Regards, Andreas

Anyone able to share their VAC config to make it work?

 

I'm not a fan of redoing what someone has already got working..