August 9, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member Something like 32+ GB/s last time I ran, still tweaking though, hoping for 33. I'll post a screenshot once I've gotten all the settings nailed down. Running 10-12-12-32-1T now but I should be able to go lower, perhaps with a bit more DIMM voltage. Pretty good timings for that speed! What voltages do you have for VDIMM, VCCSA and VCCIO? And with regards to lapping, like the guy above me said, you have to do both the IHS and water block for it to be effective. - Grammar *censored*, this was sent from my phone. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 9, 201213 yr Pretty good timings for that speed! What voltages do you have for VDIMM, VCCSA and VCCIO? And with regards to lapping, like the guy above me said, you have to do both the IHS and water block for it to be effective. - Grammar *censored*, this was sent from my phone. 1.68 VDIMM and approximately 1.25 for VTT/VCCSA. I can definitely go higher on the RAM but I really don't want to push VTT/VCCSA any higher. We'll see, I'll play with it some more. Might try bumping PLL back up towards stock levels to see if that allows me to decrease VCore.
August 10, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member 1.68 VDIMM and approximately 1.25 for VTT/VCCSA. I can definitely go higher on the RAM but I really don't want to push VTT/VCCSA any higher. We'll see, I'll play with it some more. Might try bumping PLL back up towards stock levels to see if that allows me to decrease VCore. Damn, that sure is a lot of VCCSA. If I was you, I would cut down on VCCSA and drop mem down to 2500 or relax timings. If you can lower temps on the cpu, then u might be able to clock it up to 5.0ghz which in turn will be a bit better performance all around because your memory will get a boost too which might bring it back to it's current 2600 numbers. Or maybe drop the multiplier to 48 and bump bclk up a bit. - Grammar *censored*, this was sent from my phone. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 10, 201213 yr I'm definitely not dropping mem speed anymore, I paid as much for the RAM as I did for the proc and it would be a waste not to run it close to rated speeds. As it is I'm already running at 200MHz less than what it's rated for and I'm not terribly happy about it. I'll play with VTT, VDimm, VCCSA, and PLL a bit to see if I can lower VCore and get lower temps and maybe even some more OC headroom. I can bench at 5.0 now but VCore is too close to the safe maximum for me to feel comfortable leaving it there. One of these days though I need to stop tweaking and start siming.
August 10, 201213 yr Read this thread and was happy to contemplate de-lidding, then read this thread and am having second thoughts. A pretty high casualty rate. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
August 10, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member Read this thread and was happy to contemplate de-lidding, then read this thread and am having second thoughts. A pretty high casualty rate. Alan, there is an inherited danger to everything that relates to overclocking, whether it is something as simple as bumping up some voltages or something a bit more complex as de-lidding this CPU. Most of the horror stories I can confidently say it was most likely due to using the wrong type of blade and the person just being impatient, trying to do it too quick or just clumsy. Let's face it, not everyone is crafty when it comes to doing such things and if someone knows he might not have the pulse or ability to perform this mod, then that person should not try it. I have already done this mod twice and even though the first time I was extremely surprised on how easy it was, the second time was even easier! I see people using Xacto knives, single edge blades and someone even used a switch blade! These blades are just too thick for this application. The best blade is the double edge blade used by barbers to shave a person. The ones which you snap in half and then use one half with a blade holder. These blades are extremely thin, almost as thin as an individual blade of those Gillete razor blades. And these blades are EXTREMELY sharp, which means that it takes less force to cut through the adhesive. If you think you are up to the task, then I highly recommend you do it. If you think you can't do this without damaging the chip, then please, DO NOT attempt it. But I have to tell you this though, the rewards and benefits of being able to de-lid, get rid of that POS paste Intel is using and putting on a quality paste such as Coollaboratory's Liquid Metal Ultra are tremendous and will let you get the best overclocking performance from your cpu. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 10, 201213 yr Makes sense to me. Some of those box-cutters look worrisome. A razor blade and very slow cutting... hmmm, could work. I have to remind myself that my first mod, about 25 years ago, was the Dove memory upgrade for the "Fat Mac." You had to pry the case open and expose the back of the monitor's CRT, and I remember wearing safety goggles so if the thing exploded in my face I wouldn't be blinded. Got through that, so this ought to be easier, you'd think... OK, am talking myself back into it... Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
August 10, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member Makes sense to me. Some of those box-cutters look worrisome. A razor blade and very slow cutting... hmmm, could work. I have to remind myself that my first mod, about 25 years ago, was the Dove memory upgrade for the "Fat Mac." You had to pry the case open and expose the back of the monitor's CRT, and I remember wearing safety goggles so if the thing exploded in my face I wouldn't be blinded. Got through that, so this ought to be easier, you'd think... OK, am talking myself back into it... hahahaha I remember always opening up every electronic appliance my parents would buy, just so I could take a look at the inner workings and figure out on the own what did what and how things worked. Good times! I took a video of myself delidding the second CPU but just haven't edited and uploaded it to YouTube. Let me see if I can do it today so you can take a look. It's a matter of patience, brother. You do each corner first and then slowly slice each side. Some parts will be a bit tougher because the gap is extremely small between the IHS and the pcb. That is where the blade I use makes the difference. I can't even fathom the idea of trying those though spots with a knife or Xcto knife. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 10, 201213 yr hahahaha I remember always opening up every electronic appliance my parents would buy, just so I could take a look at the inner workings and figure out on the own what did what and how things worked. Good times! Well, I was 27 at the time and probably should have known better. But I didn't, and I'm still here, and if I haven't learned the lesson by now, I'm probably not going to... Will look forward to studying your video and getting (re)inspired... Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
August 10, 201213 yr Alan, Can you explain the difference..or what can be gained by going to i73770K , from the 980X @ 4.48 that you have now ? Please keep in mind I know nothing about computors....but would the 3770K be more powerfull, Cheers Don Nelson
August 10, 201213 yr Alan, Can you explain the difference..or what can be gained by going to i73770K , from the 980X @ 4.48 that you have now ? Please keep in mind I know nothing about computors....but would the 3770K be more powerfull, Cheers Don Nelson 3770K is about a 20% faster clock for clock With the fast RAM add another 5-10% De-lid and replace the TIM, to go from 4.5 to 4.9 - 5GHz (I assume you'll be comfortable with "high" voltage looking at your current OC), that's another 10% so up to a 40% faster
August 10, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member 3770K is about a 20% faster clock for clock With the fast RAM add another 5-10% De-lid and replace the TIM, to go from 4.5 to 4.9 - 5GHz (I assume you'll be comfortable with "high" voltage looking at your current OC), that's another 10% so up to a 40% faster What he said ^^^^^ LOL :lol: Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 10, 201213 yr Thanks, Dazz - that's a better explanation than I could have delivered. Am comfortable working with my 980x but am just coming up to speed on Ivy Bridge. Re: voltages - yes, am happy to push the limits as long as temperatures behave. Actually am more willing to push voltages on the 3770, since it costs about 30 percent of what the 980x did when it was new. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
August 11, 201213 yr Ther is always a chance to screw up your rig when overclocking, de-liding, raising the voltage or else. I always had one golden rule about overclocking and one only (laping or what ever it can be when talking about overclocking) here it is....if you can't afford to overclock.... don't.
August 11, 201213 yr Author Commercial Member Like they say, you gotta pay to play. Overclocking can be an expensive endeavour if done recklessly. Done right, and the rewards are gratifying. - Grammar *censored*, this was sent from my phone. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
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