August 24, 201213 yr I'm going to live while I'm young'ish and go into debt for a bit by upgrading my often 6fps current PC(see left for specs). I will be using this thread to post before and after scores, pics and impressions. I plan to order soon the following.... G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231314 ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance LGA 1155 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157253 Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116504 Any comments or suggestions on hardware I picked?
August 24, 201213 yr P67 + Ivy Bridge is not the preferred combination. There's really no reason not to get a motherboard based on the current generation Z77 chipset. Asrock is a good option, though I've recently decided to switch to Asus to get that last little bit of overclocking headroom, but that's not likely to be something you'll run into since I doubt you'll be seeking 5GHz+ operation... If you have a Micro Center nearby, you should really go there. $189 for the 3570k and $89 for an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 board when purchased together. Literally not a better deal out there right now.
August 24, 201213 yr Author On my budget, I can't find a Z77 board with PATA controller for my older hard drives. That's the main reason I'm going with an older performance P67. Yeah I could get a seperate PATA controller card but not keen on bandaid solutions.
August 24, 201213 yr Use your old drives for your backups. Don't mess up a PC to save your old HDs that are not worth $20 Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
August 25, 201213 yr You want to use PATA drives? :huh: I wouldn't go into debt for that.... Agreed, if you're going to do it, do it right, don't bottleneck yourself with sluggish old hdd's... | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 25, 201213 yr Author Appreciate the feedback but sorry guys, I'm willing to sacrifice on things but I don't want to give up on my PATA drives this upgrade. I'm running Raid 0 with some SATA's and boot with my Samsung 830 SSD. Plenty of HHD speed if I need it.
August 25, 201213 yr Author Few examples of what I currently suffer through. Really its not that horrible since this sim is far from a twitch game.
August 25, 201213 yr Appreciate the feedback but sorry guys, I'm willing to sacrifice on things but I don't want to give up on my PATA drives this upgrade. I'm running Raid 0 with some SATA's and boot with my Samsung 830 SSD. Plenty of HHD speed if I need it. I completely understand your point of view, but those PATA drives are very slow. If you would shell out $70 for a new 500GB Caviar Blue, the difference would be day and night.
August 25, 201213 yr I still think you are making a mistake. How much space are you consuming in the old RAID 0 that we cannot move it over to one of the newer HDs. HDs are cheap these days. RAID 0's are pretty useless for FSX. This is like cutting your feet to fit into the good ole pair of shoes. Oh well.. we can only make suggestions...after that its up to you. Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
August 25, 201213 yr I agree with all the recommendations for new HDD. In the end, it is your decision. Just my 2c.
September 5, 201213 yr Author Got my new system up and running. Getting to 4750 OC at 1.28v but not stable in FSX. First impressions are not good. I expected much better performance from this upgrade. Before I post pics and test figures I'd like to alter my fsx.cfg to a more proper setting for my new cpu. Suggestions on what to change? 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September 5, 201213 yr Author Yeah already have, tried old cfg, old cfg with tweaks and new cfg with tweaks. Gained 1fps, figured I was missing something more is all.
September 5, 201213 yr 4750? Sounds like you're using BCLK to overclock (in addition to multiplier). You don't want to do that. Leave BCLK at 100.0 and only adjust the multiplier. If it's not stable you need more Vcore, 1.28 is really low for that level of OC, way low. You probably need closer to 1.4. Also, what is the performance issue you're having? It's not clear in your previous post.
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