October 4, 201213 yr Well, the 3770 has a 1155 from what I see, so I think I'm good. Yep... that is what a number of "us" are using. IIRC hasse wasn't running stress tests on his Ivy before de-lidding it because temps were too high for that Well the question is then... how high is too hot. Tj Max is supposed to be 105°C (up from 98°C? for sandy bridge). Years ago I felt 70°C was pushing it... now, I think we are "safe" setting RealTemp to alarm at 90°C (should be well below Tj Max) and as long as stability is a non-issue, then temp worries should also be a non-issue. Particularly if the cpu power saving / throttling stuff is not disabled.
October 4, 201213 yr Yep... that is what a number of "us" are using. Well the question is then... how high is too hot. Tj Max is supposed to be 105°C (up from 98°C? for sandy bridge). Years ago I felt 70°C was pushing it... now, I think we are "safe" setting RealTemp to alarm at 90°C (should be well below Tj Max) and as long as stability is a non-issue, then temp worries should also be a non-issue. Particularly if the cpu power saving / throttling stuff is not disabled. Technically 105 is "safe" but I wouldn't run my CPU that hot for any length of time. The lower the temp, the lower the power, which usually means you can hit a higher clockspeed when overclocking also. My CPU hits about 80 when stress testing with IBT, lower with Prime 95. No idea what FSX hits, not likely to push it out of the 50s if you ask me.
October 4, 201213 yr I have always been of the mind that I will never keep a CPU long enough to worry about the shortened life span of an OC anyways. Chips are made now so fast you could easily fall behind by only upgrading once a year. Lol. William Sequeira
October 5, 201213 yr Author I have always been of the mind that I will never keep a CPU long enough to worry about the shortened life span of an OC anyways. Chips are made now so fast you could easily fall behind by only upgrading once a year. Lol. Yeah, I know right? It seems that a chip 6 months old is bordering on obselete. ORBX- the way to go Sincerely, John McGee
October 5, 201213 yr Hi Did the IBT at 4.8 temps 80-95c this was with H100 http://dl.dropbox.co...1/burn-test.gif my 4.9 and 5 was with delidded CPU and real watercooling The new batches of 3770k seems better some of them do 5ghz at vcore 1.25-1.3 v want one of them, think they do easy 4.8-4.9 on water without delidding If a upgrade now , I would go for 3770k and hope that a get a later batch CPU Hasse http://
October 5, 201213 yr Did the IBT at 4.8 temps 80-95c this was with H100 Aha.... ok thanks. The new batches of 3770k seems better some of them do 5ghz at vcore 1.25-1.3 v Thanks again Hasse for the info. -Rob
October 5, 201213 yr Author Well, I will go with the 3770 then and an H100. Hopefully I can get to 4.8 or so non-delidded. ORBX- the way to go Sincerely, John McGee
October 5, 201213 yr The new batches of 3770k seems better some of them do 5ghz at vcore 1.25-1.3 v want one of them, think they do easy 4.8-4.9 on water without delidding Ach, don't say that! You make me want to go out and get another chip. Mine needs a ridiculous 1.5V for 4.9GHz with 2600 RAM.
October 5, 201213 yr Ach, don't say that! You make me want to go out and get another chip. Mine needs a ridiculous 1.5V for 4.9GHz with 2600 RAM. Me to http://
October 5, 201213 yr Author Keep us informed when you get a new one :lol: Will do. ORBX- the way to go Sincerely, John McGee
October 6, 201213 yr Author Okay, I've got it down to two systems, could you guys tell me which you think is better? Number 1: CAS:Corsair Carbide 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front USB 3.0 CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR) COOLANT:Standard Coolant CPU:Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) CS_FAN:Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9] FA_HDD:Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System) FAN:Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan [+14] (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9]) This will be an H100! HDD:2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive) IUSB:Built-in USB 2.0 PortsK EYBOARD:AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard MEMORY:8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [+17] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+7]) MONITOR:* 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157] MOTHERBOARD:[CrossFireX] ASUS P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 3 PCI (Extreme OC Certified) [+23]MOUSE:AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge NETWORK:Onboard Gigabit LAN Network OS:Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition) OVERCLOCK:Extreme OC 20% POWERSUPPLY:700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready SERVICE:STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO TEMP:Aerocool Touch 1000 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Control [+25] TUNING:Intel® Core™ i7-3770K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+29] VIDEO:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+165] (EVGA Superclocked [+31]) Number 2: CAS:Corsair Carbide 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front USB 3.0 CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR) COOLANT:Standard Coolant CPU:Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) CS_FAN:Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9] FA_HDD:Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System) FAN:Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan [+14] (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9]) Again, this will be an H100! HDD:1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (64GB Sandisk Sata III Boot Drive + 1 TB Single Drive Only) IUSB:Built-in USB 2.0 Ports KEYBOARD:AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard MEMORY:8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [+17] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+7]) MONITOR:* 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157] MOTHERBOARD:[CrossFireX] ASUS P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 3 PCI (Extreme OC Certified) MOUSE:AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge NETWORK:Onboard Gigabit LAN Network OS:Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition) OVERCLOCK:Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49] POWERSUPPLY:700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [-6] SERVICE:STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT TEMP:Aerocool Touch 1000 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Control [+25] TUNING:Intel® Core™ i7-3770K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+29] VIDEO:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+221] (EVGA Superclocked [+31]) Sorry for it being so long. Thanks guys! ORBX- the way to go Sincerely, John McGee
October 6, 201213 yr COOLANT:Standard Coolant I'd stay away from "standard" coolant... and here's (two examples) why:
October 6, 201213 yr Ozzie, not sure if you're just being facetious or if you're giving advice in a humorous fashion so for the sake of clarity I would recommend to the O.P. that "standard coolant" i.e. distiller water is perfectly fine as long as you use some kind of anti-microbial solution like a silver coil or liquid additive. I went the coil route personally.
October 6, 201213 yr Ozzie, not sure if you're just being facetious or if you're giving advice in a humorous fashion I like my humour like a Pepe Ruiz martini (dry). Most of my posts I try to help... occasionally I try to inject something I find funny with the hope others will too. :Peace: Btw... not sure what kind of coolant the Enterprise uses. -Rob
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