:lol: I knew a guy used a garden house as radiator hose to hook up to the radiator of his ole toyota pickup. That not a bad idea like ingeunity there

Certainly could use a car radiator...

 

Typically I have seen modders using heater cores... cheap but very effective apparently.

Id be ultra careful using your ac or window to cool your pc, i used outside air last winter when it was -52 out and i was at 5c under full load at 4.9 ghz, you ABSOLUTELY need positive air pressure going to your pc from the AC unit or window. Because if ANY air from inside your room gets into your case it WILL create condensation and condensation will fry your pc, I lost 2 gtx 580's and a 2600k last winter to it.

Id be ultra careful using your ac or window to cool your pc,

 

yes you do need to be careful... and a few "caveats" (like keeping room RH at a certain %) but under "normal" operating conditions this works great... that pic was when I first start using it... summer of 2008.

 

opened the case once after months of use (maybe close to a year?) and was nearly dust free... looked like new.

Back to the topic, would an i7 3770K or 2700K be better? Which processor has the highest oc potential? Thanks!

3770k - better per clock, less ghz (runs hot)

2700k - worse per clock, more ghz (better oc potential)

 

in the end, probably very much the same result.

3770k - better per clock, less ghz (runs hot)

2700k - worse per clock, more ghz (better oc potential)

 

in the end, probably very much the same result.

 

Thanks! I am looking at a new machine to run the NGX, if my current one (see sig) cannot. I've got the $, but would rather save a bit more. Would the 3770K require a ton of cooling, besides 4 230mm case fans, an antec liquid cooler with two more fans, and 2 additional CPU/case fans. I forgot, a Hard Drive fan is also included. I'm hoping that this will run cool!

That should work, just remember that more fans is not alway better, you need a general sense of direction for the air going in and out, i have my h70 set up in a pull push config drawing in air and my gtx 680's exhausting it. Keeps the insides nice and cool, im gonna see if i can find a post on overclock.net with some pics of my setup.<br /><br /><br />Edit; here it is post #8<br />http://www.overclock.net/t/1156990/will-i-get-condensation

3770k - better per clock, less ghz (runs hot)

2700k - worse per clock, more ghz (better oc potential)

 

in the end, probably very much the same result.

 

If this thread isn't too old, I was wondering which you would suggest for me. I read the reviews you posted in the hardware forum, and it seemed that they reccommended the 2700K. So, if I opt for the 2700K, do you think it would perform better than a 3770K (not de-lidded) when overclocking? :Thinking: I would like to see the best fps possible, as I like to fly detailed aircraft, so this decision is important. Thanks for all your help!

Throw the computer into the freezer while overlocking it wonder if somebody done it yet.

 

Tried that once, the wife trow a fit because she did not have enough room for the steaks....took the rig out, went to home depot and I got me some 2 1/2" PVC pipe, came back home and hocked up the rig up to the pool to be water cooled...never looked back, temp are amasing but pool is to hot to swim in it...can't win all the time.

With regards to the 3770, how much more oc performance can one gain by de-lidding?

Well, from my estimates you can get from 4.5-4.6 up to 4.9-5.2 if you are crazily lucky and depending which cooling you have, which would ultimately mean couple of FPS in FSX, I'd say about 10% best case scenario (did anyone get anything more?)?

Well, from my estimates you can get from 4.5-4.6 up to 4.9-5.2 if you are crazily lucky and depending which cooling you have, which would ultimately mean couple of FPS in FSX, I'd say about 10% best case scenario (did anyone get anything more?)?

 

Sorry to badger with questions, but would you say there are any benefits to still choosing the 2700 over a 3770? I porbably will not delid, so I would like to know which one has to best fsx potential.

If you don't de-lid Ivy you're going to run into a brick wall when overclocking at right around 4.4-4.6GHz where the chip will start throttling to protect itself because of the insane temperatures. if you de-lid, clocks up to and over 5.0GHz are possible depending upon your cooling, your willingness to apply additional voltage, and how good your particular CPU is. If you plan on overclocking and over-volting but don't want to de-lid, go with Sandy. If you're willing to examine the matter, take a look at the de-lidding tutorial linked in my signature, it's not nearly so bad as you might imagine.

If you don't de-lid Ivy you're going to run into a brick wall when overclocking at right around 4.4-4.6GHz where the chip will start throttling to protect itself because of the insane temperatures. if you de-lid, clocks up to and over 5.0GHz are possible depending upon your cooling, your willingness to apply additional voltage, and how good your particular CPU is. If you plan on overclocking and over-volting but don't want to de-lid, go with Sandy. If you're willing to examine the matter, take a look at the de-lidding tutorial linked in my signature, it's not nearly so bad as you might imagine.

 

Agree to 100%

Go for Sandy if you have mems slower than 2133 cl9

 

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