I have downloaded and installed your latest v2.5.0.2 and everything seems to have gone south.

 

1) Uninstalled (as allways) existing version then installed new v2.5.0.2.

 

2) Run App Wizard, which does not come up automatically (have to go to start menu after install). Goes as far as "Set Sound Device" then it closes after i select.

 

3) When i start FSX it seems to take for ever for MCE to initialize and sometimes comes up saying could not automatically start.

 

4) When i start interaction with the F.O., i get practically no voice regognition at all (no problem with ground i.e. GSX). My F.O. responds to practically nothing and when i get to a check list he gets practicall none of my answers engine start is a no go. So far i havn't got as far as taxiig.

 

I have also gone through all the speach training over again.

 

I have uninstalled and reinstalled coutless times but no luck, so i am out of ideas.

 

Really need some help here,

I have downloaded and installed your latest v2.5.0.2 and everything seems to have gone south.

 

1) Uninstalled (as allways) existing version then installed new v2.5.0.2.

 

2) Run App Wizard, which does not come up automatically (have to go to start menu after install). Goes as far as "Set Sound Device" then it closes after i select.

 

3) When i start FSX it seems to take for ever for MCE to initialize and sometimes comes up saying could not automatically start.

 

4) When i start interaction with the F.O., i get practically no voice regognition at all (no problem with ground i.e. GSX). My F.O. responds to practically nothing and when i get to a check list he gets practicall none of my answers engine start is a no go. So far i havn't got as far as taxiig.

 

I have also gone through all the speach training over again.

 

I have uninstalled and reinstalled coutless times but no luck, so i am out of ideas.

 

Really need some help here,

 

Hello Rick.

 

In general, when having issues with MCE, there is no point in re-installing more than once.

MCE doesn’t edit “aircraft.cfg” or “Panel.cfg” files. Normally the only time when you need to re-install, is when you have re-installed FSX or FS9.

 

While it’s always possible that a latest release breaks something, I can assure you 2.5.0.0 is a very minor change from 2.5.0.0 to the point that no announcement was made.

 

Regarding the wizard…

 

It normally only runs the very first time you run MCE (when you’ve never used it before).

It would start automatically if you restore to factory settings, otherwise the only way to bring it up, is to start it manually.

 

Click Start->All Programs->Multi Crew Experience->Tools->Run app wizard.

 

Windows manages your speech profile. The latter will only be lost if you format the hard drive or delete the user account from that machine. Besides, you can backup the speech profile using one of the Microsoft tools.

 

There is no need for speech training after installing a new MCE version.

 

When you don’t get any recognition at all, besides checking the obvious things like microphone connection and mute status, look at the top of the MCE user interface.

 

If it says “RECOGNITION IN DIALOG MODE” (amber font), it means somehow MCE detected a dialog box and assumes you are interacting with FSX dialog boxes.

In that mode, all speech rules for interacting with FO are suspended, and those for interacting with dialog boxes are enabled. The opposite happens when you close the dialog box, and revert to flight mode. If you wonder why that silly woman keeps saying “Recognition in Dialog mode”, it is precisely to warn you there won’t be any interaction with FS or ATC.

 

Ideally, MCE should seamlessly switch between FLIGHT and DIALOG modes depending on whether you have a dialog box (the kind that stops the sim) displayed.

There are occasions where a particular add-on creates a dialog box of the kind that doesn’t pause the sim, leading MCE to be fooled.

 

The workaround is right-click anywhere on the MCE user interface, wait for the drop-down menu, and click “Force Flight Mode”. MCE will then revert to flight mode where you can talk to FO and ATC.

 

If this is happening often, let us know what add-ons you are running, and we’ll work it out eventually.

There is also a setting you can change in fsInsider.ini file to get around that kind of issue.

 

If every time you start MCE, and it’s obvious the simulator is in flight mode, while MCE shows recognition to be in dialog mode, open “fsInsider.ini” found inside FSX installation folder.

 

Change “DialogReference=0” to “DialogReference=1” then save the file.

 

If still the same, change to “DialogReference=2”

 

Are you using some software associated with VatSim?

 

Which one FSInn, Squawbox or some other add-on?

 

Thanks

Thanks Gerald for your fast reply. I will check out the items you have suggested and see what happens. It puzzles me that ground is responding though, for instance if i was in dialog mode, would ground still respond?

 

Just a note, i have recently installed Opus that minimizes to the task bar. Could this cause the problem?

 

Regards,

Update: Have tried all above suggestions but still nothing. The only response i can get out of the F.O. is by throwing random commands out there until he picks up on one. For instance, if i say "push back & start", he will come back with "PUSHBACK CHEKLIST?"

Then if i confirm, he will go into the checklist wich is a complete fiasco i.e. he doesn't hear 3/4 of my answers.

 

Also the first officer will not respond to any requests as far as flipping any switches or buttons or starting up the APU etc.

 

In all MCE not working and unusable at present. worked on this till the small hours this morning and back at it now, but it is totally frustrating me.

 

Regards,

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that when quiting FSX, a dialog indicates that FSX has csashed (stopped working)

Thanks Gerald for your fast reply. I will check out the items you have suggested and see what happens. It puzzles me that ground is responding though, for instance if i was in dialog mode, would ground still respond?

 

Just a note, i have recently installed Opus that minimizes to the task bar. Could this cause the problem?

 

Regards,

 

You're welcome.

 

Is Opus Window created in the simulator process or outside it?

 

What is the OPUS main window title?

 

Commands for interacting with mechanic aren't in the same grammar as FO. They are in a separate grammar that is always ON. With hindsight, these commands (mechanic related) should be disabled in DIALOG mode too.

 

Since the issue started after OPUS installation, it's very likely that the OPUS window tricks MCE into thinking FSX is gone into DIALOG mode.

 

Will download the Demo (if there is one), and find out.

 

Meanwhile, If you want, you can go back to the previous version. Here is the link: http://www.multicrewxp.com/mce2500.zip

Thanks Gerald, will try. Just a note though: MCE is indicating copilot listening and a lot of my commands are shown in red text at the top of the screen, but no reply. However, in general, the F.O. is totally silent even though MCE is indicating he is listening.

 

I believe Opus runs outside of FSX.

 

Also when i do manage to get him to start a check list, almost every answer he appears not to understand and tries to tell me i should say "ON", which is exactly what i said.

 

It also appears that i am not connecting to GSX, it is the ground engineer i am talking to, not GSX.

 

All in all this has got me puzzled because everything was working fine, until something has rendered MCE completely useless, yet i am not seeing this come up on the forums and lots of folks must be using MCE & Opus like me.

 

Guess I will be flying solo for a while.

Regards,

Thanks Gerald, will try. Just a note though: MCE is indicating copilot listening and a lot of my commands are shown in red text at the top of the screen, but no reply. However, in general, the F.O. is totally silent even though MCE is indicating he is listening.

 

I believe Opus runs outside of FSX.

 

Also when i do manage to get him to start a check list, almost every answer he appears not to understand and tries to tell me i should say "ON", which is exactly what i said.

 

It also appears that i am not connecting to GSX, it is the ground engineer i am talking to, not GSX.

 

All in all this has got me puzzled because everything was working fine, until something has rendered MCE completely useless, yet i am not seeing this come up on the forums and lots of folks must be using MCE & Opus like me.

 

Guess I will be flying solo for a while.

Regards,

 

OK, had a chance to run the Opus Demo.

 

We can safely rule that one out. There is no way that window can fool MCE.

 

Here is a tip about FO sound going off…

 

Under Windows 7 or Vista each application has its own volume slider.

 

In Vista Microsoft introduced a feature whereby Windows automatically attenuates the volume of applications it deems as background.

 

In Windows 7, you can disable that behaviour by going to control panel.

 

Double click Sound icon, and then go to “Communications” tab.

 

Select option “Do nothing” and click Apply.

 

 

If recognition seems to go completely downhill without any obvious reason, and you are using a USB headset, suggest you unplug it, and re-plug it to a different USB port at the back of the PC.

 

Do not plug a USB headset to a USB hub, and avoid the front connectors (they may no deliver enough power for the USB device).

 

And for scenarios where you have multiple sound devices (you never know, maybe MCE is using the webcam mike), to be sure MCE is using the correct microphone, run the “assign sound device tool”.

 

Click Start->All Programs->Multi Crew Experience->Tools->Assign sound device.

 

Select the correct device for input and output, then click OK, and let the wizard adjust things automatically.

 

If nothing happens, assume the settings are already as selected.

 

You can check which devices are in use by going to the <About> tab of the user interface.

 

Finally, if you have changed headset or moved your rig to another location (with very different ambient noise conditions), you will need to create a brand new speech profile, make it active, and train it from scratch.

OK i have done everything you have suggested, including re intstalling v2.5.0 and nothing.

 

In my opinion i am set up and have pilot listening, i have PMDG 738 checklists selected, i done and redone "all" speech training and the only people that will respond to me with any consistency, is ATC and Ground Mechanic. The only way i can get the coplilot to respond to me is to say "pushback and start", no matter what stage of readiness my aircraft is in, whether it is cold and dark, engines running, ready for pushback, the reply is always the same "PUSHBACK CHECKLIST" and then he will go through that (even though i didn't ask) and in most cases will not even recognize my answers.

 

I am at the end of my rope here, i just can't get it to work, no matter what i try and believe me i've been at this for hours.

 

 

EDIT: I have narrowed it down. it has to do with my PMDG 737NGX. Everything fine on default 737. Any suggestions?

EDIT: I have narrowed it down. it has to do with my PMDG 737NGX. Everything fine on default 737. Any suggestions?

 

It is assumed you installed PMDG NGX SP1C

 

Make sure ...

 

fsInsider.dll version in FSX folder is the same as the package you installed.

 

mcpmd73X.dll is present in in \Flight Simulator X\MCE dlls\ and version number is 2.0.1.3

 

Open file "737NGX_Options.ini" found here:

 

\Flight Simulator X\PMDg\PMDG 737 NGX\737NGX_Options.ini

 

Look at the [sDK] section and make sure "EnableDataBroadcast=1"

 

Edit: Look in the <Checklist> tab for the checklist headers you can use.

 

If you want different ones, edit the checklist. You can import another checklist too.

 

Which checklist are you using?

It is assumed you installed PMDG NGX SP1C

 

Make sure ...

 

fsInsider.dll version in FSX folder is the same as the package you installed confirmed

 

mcpmd73X.dll is present in in \Flight Simulator X\MCE dlls\ and version number is 2.0.1.3 confirmed

 

Open file "737NGX_Options.ini" found here:

 

\Flight Simulator X\PMDg\PMDG 737 NGX\737NGX_Options.ini

 

Look at the [sDK] section and make sure "EnableDataBroadcast=1" confirmed

 

Edit: Look in the <Checklist> tab for the checklist headers you can use.

 

If you want different ones, edit the checklist. You can import another checklist too.

 

Which checklist are you using? Using PMDG 738 that comes with MCE.

Rick, try using the checklist called "PMDG NGX", otherwise it will not work correctly

Hey Will (and Gerald) I noticed the Checklist title and changed to the "PMDG NGX", but still not working correctly.

 

However, after trying and testing and watching (and i've been at this now for many many hours) this is what i have noticed:

 

If i am sitting at the gate cold and dark (I am using your scripts by the way Will), i flip on the battery and call for "Pre Flight Overhead Procedure" and the red text appears at the top left, but no audible reply, yet switches start to flip and the green text in the MCE control panel indicates that the procedure is being performed.

 

After a while nothing happens including the APU does not get turned on. Then after a while nothing, so just to see what happens, i call for the preflight checklist. Once again the red text confirms that MCE and the first officer heard me and the MCE control panel tells me in green text that F.O. is reading the check list (Not to me he 's not).

 

 

Once again i just try something, i ask the F.O. to tune com 1 to clearance delivery. Sure enough he answers me and sets the com 1. After this he asks me if i am going to finish the check list and completes the "Pre Flight Check list" with me, no problem. After this, i ask him to start the APU and then place on line and he does.

 

So one of the triggers to nudge things into life seems to be ATC, but the main problem seems to be that MCE can hear me, but is not letting the F.O. speak to me and it cannot be my audio configuration for my headset, because the text proves MCE can hear me and i can hear the F.O. when MCE lets him talk.

 

I realy would like to get this one solved, i havn't even gotten to pushback in two days. Very frustrating.

 

Edit: Just before i hit the sack, another little jem that has now popped up is, when asking the F.O. to select ALT 6,000 or HDG 120 OR SPEED 147, he adds that value to whatever is existing already in the MCP window. This is another new one.

If you have installed the PMDG 600-700 series too, make sure you install the separate Sp1C.

 

What you desribed with heading, altitude, or speed can happen when the cockpit is cold and dark.

 

The values you see on MCE may not be the ones held in the internal variables. MCE typically reads those values then increments or decrements them. Next time when in cold and dark,when altitude is showing 10000 and speed 100, try to manually change the values and see what happens. You will notice the whole panel will go dark.

 

Look at the audio icon in system tray(bottom right of the screen). Click on "Mixer", and you will see a volume slider for each running application. Make sure the MCE slider isn't set to near zero. That would explain why you can't hear the FO.

Rick,

 

The flows for the NGX are silent in the preparation, but you can change that so you know what he is doing, simply go to command then select voxscrirpt, find the flow you wish to amend, hit "edit" , on the next screen put a tick on "verbose", save it and away you go

On some relevant note, there is prolonged delay and period of MCE non-responsiveness at the beginning, right before the ground mechanic speaks for the first time.