Ahh, yes....plus you can choose to fly....Shorts 360, 737-200 767-200, 747..I think were all the planes it came with. I also remember the reassemled flight plans with already set weather.Bill

I still have all the floppies, the manual and the full set of maps. I have AS2 also, but none will run on my up to date system.Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Supporthttp://www.hifisim.com/images/as2004proudsupporter.jpg

Let me see if I can help.When you install it, it asks for 3 directory locations.ATP Drive path = In my case its = C:ATPScenery Drive path = In my case = C:SceneryNFL Drive path = in my case = I left this set to "None"I belive these are the default settings and it worked fine first try.Some systems may be a little more picky. If this still does not help, Try running "enditall" before running the program.Hope this helps.Robert

Brings back great memories. I probably went through my heavist flight simulator phase with ATP. I remember reading stories on FSFORUM about people calling in sick to work and getting into trouble with their significant others. Anyone remember the autoflight capabilities ATP had out of the box? You could set up an transcontinental adventure and put the plane on the departure runway, come back hours later, and the plane would be sitting on the runway at the destination.Then 3DAGs came out and it was really off to the races. I agree with the other posters who mentioned the navigation display. I wonder what Simon is doing these days? Anyone remember the 3 dimensional function and the cool set of 3D glasses that came with the 3DAGs program? I never tried that feature out because my Pentium I 90 (overclocked to 100) had problems handling the processing requirement of the double images. My current rig should be able to handle it though...Hmmmmm.

It also featured the very first implementation of ATC in a sim.Man was that game ground breaking.Remember the days when you first fired up a game like this and went "oh... my... this is so coooool". Now we're all so jaded, you fire up games and pretty much get what you thought- very few games give you that sense of awe. With FS, we just get ###### with every new release that the framerates stink and our add-ons don't work. You look past the new features... that itself is a symbolic term. Instead of a new GAME now, we get new FEATURES... the game is pretty much the same.Not to get off topic, but I still remember the first time I played FALCON- on a MAC- with full digital sound. Or Flight Simulator 2 with NAV radios, and ILS approaches (hell, I was 10- I spent years figuring out what an ILS approach was :)... Or one of my all time favorites- Ultima Underworld- which was the first truly 3D, texture mapped game ever. They all blew me away.Bring back the excitement! It's funny how when someone requests something like "cars on the highways" or "3D terminals, so you can walk to your plane" we all tend to be very cynical, thinking "that'll never happen... it's not important", but in reality, if some of those features showed up, we would all be blown away, and probably gain a HUGE amount of respect for the FS team out of their sheer desire to innovate.

>You could actually fly to a schedule and were graded at the>end of a flight. And then came the ATP check-ride!That's exactly what I loved about ATP, it gave you a "reason" to fly the airplane well. Would love to see such a feature in FS10.Carlos.

Sun Air was the very first virtual airline starting in the early 90's on Compuserve. You can find it at www.sunairexpress.com. The VA supports ATP, AS2, MS FS, and X-Plane. I've been with them since 1997. Dave Vega

You can run AS2 under current WinXP environment. Check out http://www.nomissoft.com/. Go to the forum and check the postings for the info/files. Dave Vega

Simon is working on AS3. I had the pleasure of meeting him in person recently, after about 14 years of email and chat traffic. Quite a remarkable individual. AS3 will be revolutionary. Visit http://www.nomissoft.com/. Dave Vega

ATP was definitely ahead of it's time. Don't forget the 3D glasses. :-cool

Paul,Same here. Actually I just threw out the maps last month in a garage clear out!It was a brillinat sim. The LAX-San Diego short hop is still ingrained in my memory. I must have flown that route more than any real world pilot!(lol)ATP was light years away from the standard sublogic Fs2 at the time in aircraft dynamics.. (or so I, sim flyer, imagined it was)Now as I jump in my 737 with bells added and lots of whistles and fly the world, I do still recall the ATP with affection.I am UK based and it cost serious money I recall.

http://www.nomissoft.com/index.htmlNone of the screenshots work.Would be nice to see the panels.

That is almost too funny, I was just telling someone about ATP the other day.. I loved it, it really turned me on to flight simming.I guess nowdays when you know who Karnac is, and remember sims like ATP, Chuck Yeagers Combat Flight Sim and oldies like Solo Flight that makes you on the older side..

Worth a try, thanks.JimActiveSky Supporthttp://www.hifisim.com/images/as2004proudsupporter.jpg

I will never forget this sim. I still have the charts and the manual. That manual was one of the best civil sim manuals I have aver read. The other one was the FLY manual.To run this sim correctly you need a EXPANDED and NOT EXTENDED memory. I used to boot my PC and run ATP frommy FAT drive.You need a W95 boot (system) disk with HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE filesHere are the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT filesCONFIG.SYSFILES=20DOS=HIGH,UMBDEVICE=HIMEM.SYSDEVICE=C:PROGRA~1CREATIVECTSNDDRVCTSB16.SYS/UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1 H:5 /WIN95DEVICE=C:PROGRA~1CREATIVECTSNDDRVCTMMSYS.SYSDEVICE=EMM386.EXE RAM AUTOEXEC.BATREM set paths (windows 9x enviroment)SET PATH=C:;C:WINDOWSCOMMAND;C:WINDOWS;A:SET SOUND=C:PROGRA~1CREATIVECTSNDSET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6 SET MSINPUT=C:MSINPUTIgnore the DOS/REAL Mode soundblaster drivers. If your sound card has dos drivers or something compatible you can try [Edit] settings are based on W95 system capable of using DOS commands and drivers, 5 years ago.... may not work for you today .... Now assuming no Floppy boot, you can create a shortcut to command.com (not cmd.exe) and then adjust the properties of shortcut in Memory Tab as follows. Conventional Total: Auto (check Protected) Initial Enviroment: 1024Expanded (EMS): 4096EXtended (XMS): 8192 check uses HMAMS-DOS Protected (DPMI) 9216In Misc Tab in Widows Shortcut keys untick Alt+Enter since this is used in the program. Check also the other tabs if there is something to fine tune.Just a small contribution if you want to try something.I have not tested if it really worksI hope it helps. Good luck !!!!!Samuel Kalachoras