I'm sure there's nothing that stops you keeping a copy - no one is telling us to delete our woai files. It's just the 'delete from avsim' that's proved a bit contentious and based on the post above, it's clearly the right thing to do if they're closing up shop if that was the agreement with the creators.

 

To the woai guy - thanks for the good times back in FS9 - my first proper traffic experience in flightsim.

I would like to ask then, is it against your "terms and conditions" to have a backup DVD made for PERSONAL use with no public distribution so that the individual can still enjoy the work over the years?

 

Sure can you have a copy for your personal use. We just talk about having our packages removed from the sites where we have uploaded them (avsim/flightsim)

Thanks Mike, in keeping with your agreement with the other people involved the backup copies that I have will not be distributed openly or published on any open network, best of luck to you and your team.

I just have this to say . Why doesn't someone asked them how they may use their package an how they may not. An if you want to add any extra ask them why are they leaving just like that. . JUST ASK!!

mr340: you may use the packages on your own disk(s). You are not allowed to upload or share the files. That's it

Maybe I don't know a 4th! Or I do and just don't realize it! Can you come up with a clue like I did!!

 

The 4th is a group whose name rhymes with a certain character of Dr. Seuse

Well that just narrows it down to a few hundred funny names then! Anything to narrow it down a bit!?

Well that just narrows it down to a few hundred funny names then! Anything to narrow it down a bit!?

 

the character "Heard a Who"

There is an AI package under his name, or just his knowledge about AI traffic?

Thanks for listening and thanks for using our work during the past years.

From another thread.

I read so many topics about the closure of WoAI now. Let me explain why we will pull the plug and I want to stop the rumours as well. Feel free to contact me in case I missed some details.

 

We at WoAI had a wonderful time creating and testing the packages and we enjoyed the positive feedback from the community. The number of downloads proved that our work was appreciated by many from the community. Many of you (including myself) started with the WoAI packages to populate their virtual skies.

 

After all those years some of us lost interest in FS completely others just don't have the time anymore. The reason why we have to remove the packages is the fact that we do not own the models/flightplans/repaints. This work was done by others which gave us permission to use their work for the time WoAI is around. Since we will shut down we will ask the library managers to remove all the packages to respect the authors will.

 

There is no plan to join/create a succeding group. With the above mentioned explanation it will not be possible to handover the permissions as these were solely given to WoAI - especially since some of the mentioned authors are not around anymore (e.g. Billy Rutherford).

 

If you have downloaded (or will download) our packages you can use them as long as you want. You do not have to remove them from your disk(s). BUT: you are not allowed to distribute them in any form including uploading them to any file hosting site.

 

On a side note: I read somewhere somebody guessing tax issues. This is definetly NOT the case. We had no income at any time. The bills for the provider and the site were paid by the management of WoAI.

 

For further questions feel free to ask me. Even after April 2013 I will be around from time to time and you can also reach me in the AIG or MAIW forums ("sprocky") where I am more frequently.

 

Jan

WoAI

I'm glad you guys chimed in to explain the step in more detail. This surely helps avoiding confusion and it also shows that you really care. All you folks running free services for that small and sometimes very demanding community deserve a lot of respect.

 

Have a nice new year soon. :smile:

There is an AI package under his name, or just his knowledge about AI traffic?

this 4th ai group has a name that rhymes with the Dr Seuse character who "Hears a Who "

OK:

 

Borton

Corton

Dorton

Forton

Jorton

Korton

Lorton

Morton

Norton

Rorton

Sorton

Torton

Vorton

Worton

Xorton

Yorton

Zorton

haha its in that list

Would have helped to know it wasn't spelled the same!!

 

Downloading to take a look now.

Would have helped to know it wasn't spelled the same!!

 

Downloading to take a look now.

Maybe it is my opinion only. But these packages offered by several people violating laws. Even though the original work is freeware it does not mean that people can spread it. Mostly the freeware contains a readme file which clearly states that the upload to any other page without permission of the author as well as including it in a package is against the will of the creator. Downloading such a package encourages people to continue violating the law. We at WoAI always asked for permission. If it was granted we used the work. If not we did not use it. If it was granted first and later denied we made the packs unavailable.

 

It is really sad to read such behaviour in the most visited flight simmer place. :(

 

Jan

WoAI