I have just got my hands on PRO ATC X and have virtually no hair left! Could someone please explain how to import the saved PRO ATC X flightplan into the NGX CDU. There seems to be a major lack of information in the so called manual. Cheers fellas...

I have just got my hands on PRO ATC X and have virtually no hair left! Could someone please explain how to import the saved PRO ATC X flightplan into the NGX CDU. There seems to be a major lack of information in the so called manual. Cheers fellas...

 

Hi Howard. Punch in PROATX-CLR to the scratch pad and enter it at the CO Route LSK. This must be done only after opening ProATC and selecting your saved flight plan and selecting 'FLY NOW' and then go back to your cockpit and switch your COM1 frequency from ATIS. Then get your clearance from Clearance Delivery.

 

J van E has a getting started tutorial in the FAQ thread over at ProATC Forum.

 

Regards,

 

Rick.

 

Edit: Once you get things sorted you are gonna love it. It gets better every update.

Hi Howard. Punch in PROATX-CLR to the scratch pad and enter it at the CO Route LSK. This must be done only after opening ProATC and selecting your saved flight plan and selecting 'FLY NOW' and then go back to your cockpit and switch your COM1 frequency from ATIS. Then get your clearance from Clearance Delivery.

 

J van E has a getting started tutorial in the FAQ thread over at ProATC Forum.

 

Regards,

 

Rick.

 

Edit: Once you get things sorted you are gonna love it. It gets better every update.

 

Hi Rick, many thanks for thre advice, much appreciated. However, I think I may not have got my problem across. The confusion I have is at the flightplan save point. Do I simply save and then forget it, in which case, where is the plan saved to? or do I have to right click on the flightplan at the top of the flightplan list and then select a type of file it has to be saved as? in which case what type of file does it need to be saved as and where is it saved to??? I hope this makes sense Rick, maybe I am making things too complicated.... I have found Jeroen's tutorials, but I feel I may be looking too hard at things and missing the obvious...

Hi Howard,

 

Create or import your flight plan, once fsx has started and NGX has done it's countdown thing right click on your flight plan in the list in ProATC and click fly. Then, when you are ready to ask for clearence switch channels and press 1, your flight plan will then be imported into NGX, use co plan to activate. You don't save the flight plan in the conventional way, ProATC does it automatically.

Thanks Mike, OK, I'll follow your lead later. BTW how is it that the ATC window keeps disappearing after I have clicked an option? Please tell me this is not normal. I always fly with the ATC options open all the time on a separate monitor... BTW I have registered and posted over on the Pro ATC forum, but my post just disappeared! I'm just a little frustrated at the moment because it all looks a lot more complicated that I expected... (probably me!)

I think that is how it works... at least on my system, once you have responded or requested an item the box closes down.

 

I am stating this from memory, but I think if the window is left open it will not update..

I would like an option to auto open the window when a response is required.

Hmm, I'm becoming very disillusioned very fast here. OK, I have just gone back to the beginning and saved a fresh flightplan, but it is nowhere to be seen in the NGX flightplan folder, should this be the case???? I am still unable to find the saved plan when I access co route in the CDU, there's just nothing there....

 

I am still going round in circles here... In the list of saved flightplans, if I choose a flightplan and right click it, I am given the option to export the flightplan ?? Is this not so I can export it into the NGX flightplan folder which is then 'seen' in co routes??

 

In the CDU I enter PROATCX-CLR in the scratch pad, click on co routes (without entering any ICAO) and all I get is it's an invalid entry!

 

OK fellas, it seems I have sorted it out! I was trying to find the flightplan prior to getting clearance, which has always been the first thing I do when I get into the cockpit. It looks like I will have to begin some new habits!

Okay, first and foremost the flightplan will not become visible until you ask for clearence, once you have the reply from atc a file proatc will appear in co-route, this is the flightplan which you just filed, activate this and then open the map in ProATC, on the left side top you will see the details of your fp and just below the SID and runway you will be using (if you are using a weather engine such as Opus, this will determine the runway in use) insert the SID and runway as per norm and remove any discos a vola you are good to go. I use ProATC with FS2Crew and Opus, in which case I have the co-pilot options turned off, the only thing I use is the auto answer radio mesages. Feel free to contact me should you need any more info, contact details in usual place.. :wink:

 

Oh I forgot to mention, once the flight plan has been used it is deleted from NGX, it is still in the ProATC list and can be used again and again, it's deleted from NGX as the fp al use the same name and would overwrite each other, also keeps things nice and neat.

 

"In the CDU I enter PROATCX-CLR in the scratch pad, click on co routes (without entering any ICAO) and all I get is it's an invalid entry!"

 

You can't do this, you must use the co-route to bring up the fp..:-)

Cheers Mike, that's great. I've just had a quick test flight and I seem to have everything working (of sorts) and thanks for the offer of help, appreciated...

Howard. With regard to your preference of having the ATC menu visible at all times, try requesting it as an option in a future update over at the ProATC forum. You 'might' get your wish, because they really do listen to their customers.

 

Regards,

 

Howard. With regard to your preference of having the ATC menu visible at all times, try requesting it as an option in a future update over at the ProATC forum. You 'might' get your wish, because they really do listen to their customers.

 

Regards,

Cheers mate, I'll do that...

Okay, first and foremost the flightplan will not become visible until you ask for clearence, once you have the reply from atc a file proatc will appear in co-route, this is the flightplan which you just filed, activate this and then open the map in ProATC, on the left side top you will see the details of your fp and just below the SID and runway you will be using (if you are using a weather engine such as Opus, this will determine the runway in use) insert the SID and runway as per norm and remove any discos a vola you are good to go. I use ProATC with FS2Crew and Opus, in which case I have the co-pilot options turned off, the only thing I use is the auto answer radio mesages. Feel free to contact me should you need any more info, contact details in usual place.. :wink:

 

Oh I forgot to mention, once the flight plan has been used it is deleted from NGX, it is still in the ProATC list and can be used again and again, it's deleted from NGX as the fp al use the same name and would overwrite each other, also keeps things nice and neat.

 

"In the CDU I enter PROATCX-CLR in the scratch pad, click on co routes (without entering any ICAO) and all I get is it's an invalid entry!"

 

You can't do this, you must use the co-route to bring up the fp..:-)

 

Hi Mike, mmm, all looking good (to a point) erm, so I fly fullscreen mode, so I have a problem if I want to use the moving map.... also, once I have created an auto generated flightplan and it shows up in the CDU, for some reason there are no altitudes showing in the legs page. Also, you say insert the SID as norm, but is this not generated automatically and installed along with the flightplan? Sorry if these are noob questions Mike, but I am not finding this particularly intuitive... cheers.

It looks like I must be doing something right as I'm now at 33,000' enroute to EDDS and everything seems to be working OK. I'll see how things go on my descent :smile:

hi howard, i couldnt get to grips with proatc at first,alpha117 has made some excellent tutorial videos you might want to look at, they helped me getting started now im enjoying using proatc.

Thanks for the suggestion Jim.... well, i thought things were going too well. I've just had a CTD, luckily I run FSUIPC's autosave facility, so I just reloaded the saved flight, the only thing is, PRO ATC could not be accessed via button 1 on the keyboard, even though the UI said the flightplan was still active. Has anyone any idea how I get back to where I left off when using an autosaved flight? cheers...