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Hey guys, I've been searching around and reading tons of helpful guides on using the Bufferpools tweaks in my fsx.cfg file. I've tried using UsePools=1/0, Poolsize=0/490000000 (and a few in between), as well as RejectedThreshold=131072. I've messed around with plenty of different combinations of the three, enabling one while the other is disabled, tweaking values of one or the other and testing, etc. However I seem to be at a standstill. 

 

For testing I'm using BluePrint Simulations' KLAX, along with Aerosoft USCitiesX LA, and flying the PMDG 737-800NGX. My problem is this: no matter how much I mess with these three tweaks I'm not seeing ANY boost in performance, and on top of that, according to GPU-Z I'm still not even using more than 1005MB of my 2048MB GTX 550Ti. 

 

Here are my specs:

 

ASUS M4A79XTD Evo MOBO

Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1333Mhz

AMD Phenom II X4 840 OC'd @ 3.5Ghz

EVGA GTX 550Ti 2GB OC'd @ 1000Mhz Core 2040Mhz Shader

Windows 7 Home Prem 64Bit

With my video settings, which are tweaked quite a lot (I average around 25FPS and my game looks and runs GREAT, mid flight, except in some of my CS and PMDG aircraft and near large Payware airports). I'm just trying to get a nice little boost on the ground and near bigger hubs. My tests at LAX were giving me around 11fps on the ground in the NGX. BARELY playable. Not very smooth at all and it makes it quite hard to make precise control adjustments when your skipping along at 11fps... 

 

Is there something I'm doing wrong to not be seeing ANY fps or smoothness boost out of these tweaks?? My video card certainly isn't reflecting that I've even done anything at all!! Never goes above 45% mem usage. I know it can handle it because I'm not even using half of my memory normally!

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been working on this for a while trying to figure out what's going on.

 

Also: I am using Bojote's tweaked config file as well as HighMemFix

 

Thanks in advance!

Brick

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Starting with a new FSX.CFG, at default flight you should get 20 fps. Go into Settings and move fps slider full right (unlimited). You should now have 130+ fps. If not, the computer must be ffixed/adjusted. Lock your frames to 30 and use the following tweaks. Use either one of the Bufferpool settings to see which works best. Use Word Not Allowed's Guide to set up the rest.

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=14 //Added

//[bufferPools]
//UsePools=1 //Added
//PoolSize=8388608 // 4MB Default 4194304
//RejectThreshold=524288 //524288, 262144, 126976, 98304

[bUFFERPOOLS]
UsePools=0 //Added

[GRAPHICS]
HIGHMEMFIX=1 //Added

[Main]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33 //default .33

[Display]
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80
TextureMaxLoad=6 //3, 6, 9

[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=6.500000
WATER_EFFECTS=4

Dave

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Brick, i have an overclocked CPU, the Intel 2500K, clocked at 4.6 GHz and still my videocard isn't the bottleneck. I have a GTX 670 OC-ed with 2GB and also my videomemory is only used to about 1.2GB. With FSX, if you have a decent videocard, it is always the CPU that is limiting your FPS, so focus on that instead of your videocard. On KLAX or other big addon airports I get dips into the high teens when seeing some AI planes and clouds. You will never achieve 30 fps all the time, UNLESS you are willing to give up some eyecandy. Like roadtraffic (i set this to 0, because it costs too much FPS), or setting the AI-traffic slider back. Also the autogen is a slider with huge impact on FPS. If you get too frustrated, take out a smaller plane once in a while, because the NGX is heavy on all systems.

 

By the way, i recently tested with bufferpools too (again...) but I couldn't notice any difference either. I guess that is because recent videocards are so powerful, the CPU can send anything it want's to the videocard, it will keep up in FSX which is very CPU-hungry. So i've set it to usepools=0 (comment all the other lines out).

I read some in-depth documentation on this on Steve's blog amongst other sources, and i came to that conclusion. But i'm not an expert on buffer (dynamic or static) so maybe i'm wrong. The most important thing is what you test as best setting on your hardware-configuration.

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Hey guys, I've been searching around and reading tons of helpful guides on using the Bufferpools tweaks in my fsx.cfg file. I've tried using UsePools=1/0, Poolsize=0/490000000 (and a few in between), as well as RejectedThreshold=131072. I've messed around with plenty of different combinations of the three, enabling one while the other is disabled, tweaking values of one or the other and testing, etc. However I seem to be at a standstill. 

 

For testing I'm using BluePrint Simulations' KLAX, along with Aerosoft USCitiesX LA, and flying the PMDG 737-800NGX. My problem is this: no matter how much I mess with these three tweaks I'm not seeing ANY boost in performance, and on top of that, according to GPU-Z I'm still not even using more than 1005MB of my 2048MB GTX 550Ti. 

 

Here are my specs:

 

ASUS M4A79XTD Evo MOBO

Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1333Mhz

AMD Phenom II X4 840 OC'd @ 3.5Ghz

EVGA GTX 550Ti 2GB OC'd @ 1000Mhz Core 2040Mhz Shader

Windows 7 Home Prem 64Bit

With my video settings, which are tweaked quite a lot (I average around 25FPS and my game looks and runs GREAT, mid flight, except in some of my CS and PMDG aircraft and near large Payware airports). I'm just trying to get a nice little boost on the ground and near bigger hubs. My tests at LAX were giving me around 11fps on the ground in the NGX. BARELY playable. Not very smooth at all and it makes it quite hard to make precise control adjustments when your skipping along at 11fps... 

 

Is there something I'm doing wrong to not be seeing ANY fps or smoothness boost out of these tweaks?? My video card certainly isn't reflecting that I've even done anything at all!! Never goes above 45% mem usage. I know it can handle it because I'm not even using half of my memory normally!

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been working on this for a while trying to figure out what's going on.

 

Also: I am using Bojote's tweaked config file as well as HighMemFix

 

Thanks in advance!

Brick

 

For me, I don't see any benefit from BP=0 unless the GPU is being stressed.

 

So with just calm weather I see no improvement.

 

However... as soon as I add some heavy REX weather, with all those fancy clouds, and fly a demanding aircraft, I see a 20 FPS improvement.

 

It may simply be that you aren't testing in a way that will reveal the improvement.

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martin-w, on 22 Jun 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

For me, I don't see any benefit from BP=0 unless the GPU is being stressed.

I think it's the other way around. With no bufferpools everything is always direct to the GPU, so stressing it more. Bufferpools are located in the PCs memory.

 

When I used a 1 Gb video card I couldn't use BP=0 at all because of multitudes of black spikes appearing all the time, a result of GPU not keeping up. Since I acquired a 3Gb video card, BP=0 works wonderfully. I think it best suits cards with larger memory on board.

 

Pete

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Well yes Pete, when I say stressed, I mean the GPU actually coming more into play. Having more to do, I don't mean overstressed. If the GPU is doing less, then I would think it would make sense that any improvement would be less.

It's definitely the case that I don't see any benefit from BP=0 unless I'm in heavy REX weather. And then in that circumstance it's a 20 FPS increase.
 

When I used a 1 Gb video card I couldn't use BP=0 at all because of multitudes of black spikes appearing all the time, a result of GPU not keeping up. Since I acquired a 3Gb video card, BP=0 works wonderfully. I think it best suits cards with larger memory on board.



Yes, too much data is being fed to the GPU, hence artefacts.

I had the same experience when I switched to an overlooked Ivy Bridge. BP=0 had worked great with my i7 920, but with Ivy I was seeing spikes all over the place.

The solution was simple. It was clear that too much data was being fed directly to the GPU, so I simply knocked my frame rate limiter down lower. [it was previously quite high] I also knocked Autogen back a notch... the result was no artefacts.

That's with a GTX 580 1Gb.

 

I feel BP=0 would have worked for your old 1Gb card as it does for mine, if you had reduced the data being fed directly to the GPU to a level that could be handled. Lower frame rate, lower Autogen, lower resolution. Big changes aren't required, in my experience with my 1Gb card, just tweaking.

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Thanks for all the replies guys!! I've tested it with BP=0 as well and didn't see an improvement, however I had the weather set to Fair and Opus was disabled, maybe if I run all the programs I usually do it'll help stress it more. As for the other tweaks, I had a few of them already but I set the other ones and I'm going to do some testing WITH Opus enabled and see what happens. 

 

Thanks again guys I'll post back here with an update.

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Well I tried all those tweaks, to no avail. It seems my CPU is seriously hindering my performance. Is there any way at all I can offload more weight from the CPU to the GPU? I know that's what Rejected Threshold is supposed to do but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I would prefer to find a way to get a slight FPS improvement without touching many of my Display settings. I know that's a lot to ask, but it runs just fine everywhere else. Airbus Extended gives me over 20fps most of the time, Level-D over 25, its just when I get to CS or PMDG products that my fps drops to an almost unflyable level. I'm still averaging about 10-11fps on the ground at LAX as well as SAN (payware). I have my FPS limiter set to Unlimited (I don't use an external limiter as it messes with EZDOK for some reason) and any time I set it to 30 my fps drops to about 7 or so, completely unflyable. So I keep that locked at Unlimited. I also use Nvidia Inspector but I only use very few settings on there, just enough to smooth some edges out, like 4x AA or so. Idk what to do!! I just want the game to run more smoothly, I don't care if I'm still not getting High FPS, and I'd like it to look the same too. I run every single game on my computer maxxed out, Crysis, Bioshock Infinite, Arma3, Arma2, Red Orchestra, Total War games, etc, all pretty demanding games, my PC handles them without a single hiccup. I know FSX is far different but I know there has to be some way I can balance things out here to still get good looks as well as smoothness. Thanks again guys Brick

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Yes, definitely try DX10!

I read both forums on AVSim so I didn't realise this wasn't the DX10 section. This will gain you smoothness and little more FPS.

And for some reason - although Word Not Allowed swears against it - an external fps limiter gives me a few extra frames too, so i have FSX set at unlimited FPS. There is a little freeware java program which is eay to use and easy to find.

 

There are probably two things that would help a lot, but unfortunately neither will ever happen (i think).

A CPU with higher clockspeeds (unlikely, only more cores on a CPU) or a re-write of FSX with many optimizations (won't happen ever).

 

Although your FPS seems too low for the hardware you have. You might want to start with a new fsx.cfg and instead of using Bojote's app, try manual tweaking. Trust me, you only need a FEW entries. Highmem, maybe bufferpools, maybe frame_fiber_fraction at 0.1 or 0.15 (or whatever the name is), and keep the autogen at normal.

Also check if you have applied the Affinitymask=xxx correctly, if you use it wrong it can kill your performance. If you don't have that entry, it's worth a shot but isn't the holy grail most likely.

With a CPU with multiple cores the FFTF tweak shouldn't help at all, but i'm not so sure when you have the affinitymask set.

If you post your fsx.cfg i might have a look and compare it to mine.

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Thanks again guys!! I'll have to try DX10, I had always heard to keep it OFF so I made sure to do that. Plus I may have a few addons that aren't compatible with it, we'll see ;) but I'll give it a try anyway!! Here is my CFG, edited with Bojote's tool and another few manual entries added by me:

 

// This file was tweaked on May 21, 2013 at 07:57 GMT using Bojote's automated FSX Tweaking & Tuning Service
// This file is optimized as follows: 4 core(s), CPU speed 3, HT 0, GPU 4, PREF 2
// You can visit Bojote's FSX Tweaking & Tuning service at http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html
[bufferPools]
UsePools=0
//Poolsize=490000000
//RejectThreshold=131072 //512Kb = 524288, 256Kb = 262144, 124Kb = 126976, 96Kb = 98304
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[sOUND]
AmbientUI=0
AmbientUIMusic=FSX01
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_FADER1=0.540000
SOUND_FADER2=0.580000
SOUND_FADER3=0.670000
SOUND_FADER4=0.500000
SOUND_LOD=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
UISound=1
VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
[slewTextInfo.1]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
[AContain]
LabelColor=FFFF0000
LabelDelay=1000
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
PilotVoice=0
ShowATCText=0
UsePilotVoice=0
[TextInfo.1]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Current=Standard
Controls_Default=Standard
KBDAIL=0
KBDELEV=0
KBDRUD=0
[FACILITIES]
CITY=
COUNTRY=
GTL_BUTTON=1283
STATE=
[TextInfo.3]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
FrameRate=2,1
FuelPercentage=2,4
GForce=2,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
Longitude=1,2
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[GRAPHICS]
AC_SELF_SHADOW=0
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
ALLOW_SHADER_30=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
D3D10=0
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
HIGHMEMFIX=1
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
NUM_LIGHTS=8
See_Self=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
Text_Scroll=1
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458432
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693458432
[TrafficManager]
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=1
AirlineDensity=20
FreewayDensity=4
GADensity=20
IFROnly=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=19
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=19
[DynamicHeadMovement]
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
[REALISM]
AutoCoord=False
AutoTrim=False
CrashDetection=True
CrashTolerance=1.000000
CrashWithDyn=True
GEffect=True
General=1.000000
GyroDrift=True
GyroEffect=1.000000
ManualLights=True
PFactor=1.000000
RealMixture=False
StressDamage=False
Torque=1.000000
TrueAirspeed=False
UnlimitedFuel=False
[Weather]
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=7
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
DisableTurbulence=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DynamicWeather=0
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MaxGustTime=500
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
MaxVarTime=50
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MinGustTime=10
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MinVarTime=5
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
[Main]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33 //default .33
HideMenuFullscreen=1
HideMenuNormal=0
Location=440,130,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=2
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
SimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\Aircraft
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
ProcSpeed=8283
PerfBucket=7
 
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
FuelPercentage=1,4
GForce=1,3
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[uSERINTERFACE]
Map_Orientation=1
OpenATCOnCreate=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
PageID=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
SelectAircraftManufacturer=All
SelectAircraftPublisher=All
SelectAircraftType=All
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
TriLinear=1
[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=1
[Display]
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
ChangeTime=4.000000
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=200
TextureMaxLoad=6 //was 30
TransitionTime=4.000000
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=True
[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask= 14
[slewTextInfo.3]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
FrameRate=2,1
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
Longitude=1,2
[PANELS]
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
QUICKTIPS=0
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
LoadWindow=1
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=0
[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[TERRAIN]
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4
DETAIL_TEXTURE=0
LOD_RADIUS=6.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
MESH_RESOLUTION=23
SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
WATER_EFFECTS=4
[sCENERY]
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3
LENSFLARE=1
MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3
SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0
[RWW_WEATHER_MAP]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=0
SHOW_VORS=0
SHOW_NDBS=0
SHOW_APPROACHES=0
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=0
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
[FlightPlanMap]
LineWidth=2
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
show_waypoints=1
show_airways=1
show_markers=1
show_volume_boundaries=1
show_ac_twr=1
[MAPVIEW_MAP]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
show_flight_history=1
[stationMap]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=0
SHOW_VORS=0
SHOW_NDBS=0
SHOW_APPROACHES=0
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=0
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=0
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
                                     
[WeatherMap]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=0
SHOW_VORS=0
SHOW_NDBS=0
SHOW_APPROACHES=0
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=0
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0

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Update: Turning on DX10 Preview in FSX did boost framerates up to about 14-15 at SAN, however it's still not very smooth and it gave me a lot of jagged lines, like it overrode my AA settings or something...

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like it overrode my AA settings or something...

 

When you switch from DX9 to DX10 and vice-versa, it will turn OFF the AA and downgrade your AF to Trilinear.  You'll need to go back into the FSX settings and make sure they are enabled.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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When you switch from DX9 to DX10 and vice-versa, it will turn OFF the AA and downgrade your AF to Trilinear.  You'll need to go back into the FSX settings and make sure they are enabled.

 

Best regards,

Jim

Ah, I see. I'll make sure to turn those back on. Thanks! Also, Mork, if you'd like to have a looksy at my config and compare it to yours, that would be nice ;) still trying to get a little more fps

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What was the fps with new FSX.CFG?

What was the fps when the slider was moved to unlimited?

The FSX.CFG looks ok except:

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=200 Try 40 or 80

 

Dave

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Thanks Dave, I decided to try a completely new CFG. I backed up my old one and let FSX make a new one, I then added ONLY HIGHMEMFIX=1, and tweaked my GFX settings in the FSX UI. Now I plan on going back and tweaking Bufferpools as well as putting my Texture_Bandwith to where you said. I did get a performance boost by reloading my CFG file, so hopefully these tweaks will help further improve my FPS. 

 

I'll post back with an update after I do some testing!!

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Excellent!  Stay away from all those tweaks (I might agree to Bufferpools but I would try it disabled and then with it enabled to see if there is any noticeable difference).  Highmemfix is actually a fix and not a tweak.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Well here is my update:

 

After rebuilding my CFG, getting my settings all near where they were before, I'm not seeing any improvement in FPS. I turned weather to Heavy Thunderstorms to see if maybe that would stress my GPU some more, to no avail. My GPU is actually using LESS memory than it was before. I've got some SERIOUS CPU bottlenecking issues here. I've noticed my FPS is very reasonable until I actually pan across or look directly towards the terminal at my payware airports. Then it drops by almost 10fps. Right now I'm averaging about 12FPS at FlyTampa Seattle, which is not a huge airport or as well detailed as LAX or some of my other fields. However, Seattle is usually a pretty intensive area so I decided to do some tests here with my weather going crazy to try to stress my GPU more. Nothing. Tested in the NGX as well as Airbus X Extended. I'd really prefer not to have to do an OS reinstall to get improved FPS, I defragged last night, cleaned up the registry, etc. My FSX seems to be running WAY slower than it should be with my specs, I know I don't have the nicest specs out there by any means but I'm fairly positive my pc can handle FSX at more than 10fps. Something isn't right here and I can't seem to figure it out. 

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You need to take it one step at a time. Jumping around leads to confusion. The first 2 steps tell whether your computer is able to run FSX at high fps levels. With a new cfg, I get 130+ fps at default flight. Jim says hie new Haswell gets over 200.

 

1. What was the fps with the new cfg at default fligft?

 

2. What was the fps reading after you moved the frame slider from 20 to unlimited?

 

Your cpu might be overtemping and throttled back. FSX tweaking will not overcome problems like this. A complete reinstall will probably be a waste of time. I have had FSX runing on four computers (XP32, Vista32, Vista64, and Win764) and have never had to do a reinstall.

 

Dave

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I feel BP=0 would have worked for your old 1Gb card as it does for mine, if you had reduced the data being fed directly to the GPU to a level that could be handled. Lower frame rate, lower Autogen, lower resolution.

Frame rate was too low already -- my benchmark is at UK2000's EGLL with realistic weather and decent amounts of AI. I don't use much autogen in any case, and the reslution has to be 1080P to get scenery looking decent on my 10 feet wide projector screen. I don't have any cockpit panels slowing things down either, it's all scenery. Currently, with BP=0 I get between 15 and 30 fps at EGLL depending on which way I look. It's about the minimum acceptable. This is with an i5 overclocked to 4.8 GHz.

 

Once EGLL is "acceptable" I normally hit my limiter (30 fps) everywhere else.

 

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Frame rate was too low already -- my benchmark is at UK2000's EGLL with realistic weather and decent amounts of AI. I don't use much autogen in any case, and the reslution has to be 1080P to get scenery looking decent on my 10 feet wide projector screen. I don't have any cockpit panels slowing things down either, it's all scenery. Currently, with BP=0 I get between 15 and 30 fps at EGLL depending on which way I look. It's about the minimum acceptable. This is with an i5 overclocked to 4.8 GHz. Once EGLL is "acceptable" I normally hit my limiter (30 fps) everywhere else. Pete

I have the same experience Pete.

 

Brick, the performance you describe seems odd compared to your hardware, i think it could run a little better. Quickly glanced at your fsx.cfg and can't see anything weird. As Jim suggested, less is more, especially when starting out with a new config. But it seems you already tried that, so i'll make some suggestions anyway after i compared it to mine. And again, I don't get a steady 30 FPS in every situation either, only in the sky.

Try flying in a smaller plane in the same airports instead of the NGX and check the FPS, if that too won't make much of a difference, then there must be something wrong. I'll report back in a couple of minutes.

 

Edit: Ok, a couple of observations, but nothing big:

 

1) You should try setting road traffic to zero. Even at 1% you'll notice a fps hit. It's too bad, but it should help you a bit.

2) The line FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33 is doing nothing, because 0.33 is the default value. You could delete this entry if setting it to 0.1 (or mybe 0.15 or 0.20) doesn't help. It's not in the fsx.cfg by default, so its only useful if you want a different value than 0.33. Again, supposedly this tweak is not useful anymore with a multiple cores CPU, but some ppl still swear by it, and it might be that the Affinitymask setting renders it useful again.

3) AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1: You could try setting both to 0, just to see if it helps if you are willing to give them up.

4) TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=200 | This seems too high, default is 40 and personally i never used this sttings for tweaking. I've tried, but never really seen results. A value of 200 seems too high and might do you harm. I suggest setting this to a safe 40 or 80.

5) TextureMaxLoad=6 //was 3 | This one is in the same 'area' as the above line, i think they are both part of the same mechanism and should work together. Currently i have set this to 21 i believe. I recently tested with different settings, (from 6 to 30) but didn't notice any impact on FPS. This is weird, because i cleary remember getting more FPS out of this line set to 30. But that was back when i used DX9. Which leads me to:

6) Please try the DX10 fix. If you experience shimmering you might have made an error in applying Steve's shaderfix. If you see bad or no anti-aliassing, check what Jim said about that. You need to set 'antialias=1' in FSX as well as 'anisotropic=1'. Tweaking in Nvidia Inspector might get you even better looking AA, but I wouldn't worry about that right now.

7) AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4 | Set this to 2. If you have nice scenery, you won't really miss having much autogen. This has a big impact on FPS, so you might want to lower this.

8) ALLOW_SHADER_30=1 | I have deleted this entry after going to DX10. I don't know if this should any impact on performance though...

9) IMAGE_QUALITY=0 | I have this set to 1. But honestly i can't remember what this does, i just noticed it set to 0 in your config. Might be good, i really don't know.

10) I see you have set FPS to unlimited. This is fine, but i would advise getting an external frame limiter set to 30.

11) MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3 and SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0 | I remember removing these lines at some point, but i don't remember why. You might want to google these and see what they do.

12) Try water_effects at mid.2X (which is WATER_EFFECTS=5 in the config)

13) Your current LOD_RADIUS is set to 6.5 Might want to switch back to the default 4.5.

 

Again, I don't think my suggestions will be your holy grail, but it's stuff you can try. And please hang on to DX10, because it does a better job of running on modern hardware. Again, not the holy grail, but it helps.

 

Anyway, goodluck!

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I've got some SERIOUS CPU bottlenecking issues here.

 

You might want to make sure you have installed the heap limitation fix.  It gives your system a bit more breathing room.  If you have a lot of fsx programs running in the background, this should help - - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Frame rate was too low already -- my benchmark is at UK2000's EGLL with realistic weather and decent amounts of AI. I don't use much autogen in any case, and the reslution has to be 1080P to get scenery looking decent on my 10 feet wide projector screen. I don't have any cockpit panels slowing things down either, it's all scenery. Currently, with BP=0 I get between 15 and 30 fps at EGLL depending on which way I look. It's about the minimum acceptable. This is with an i5 overclocked to 4.8 GHz.

 

Once EGLL is "acceptable" I normally hit my limiter (30 fps) everywhere else.

 

Pete

Oh right.

 

In my case I have pretty basic requirements. I don't go in for third party add-on airports, and keep AI low out of preference. Consequently I have very high frame rate with my GTX580 and 3770K at 4.5 GHz. I tend to keep sliders set to a reasonable level too. Still looks good to me though.

 

I guess I have plenty of latitude in terms of frame rate lock. 60 with the i7920 and BP=0 resulted in stutters. Just knocked it back to 50 and all fine for the 3770K.

 

It's currently still locked at 50, and pretty much no stutters, nice and smooth. NGX nocks it down a tad, sometimes to high twenties with heavy weather, but only on the ground and briefly. I commonly fly around at 50 FPS in the Majestic Q400.

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Thanks again guys. I tried Steve's DX10 tweaks yesterday but I could NOT get AA or AF to work so I turned it back off. I'm going to try reinstalling it and giving it another try. I'll also post my new CFG here:

 

JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=14
 
[bufferPools]
//UsePools=0
BufferPools=1
PoolSize=90000000
RejectThreshold=126976 //512Kb = 524288, 256Kb = 262144, 124Kb = 126976, 96Kb = 98304
 
[GRAPHICS]
ForceFullScreenVsync=1
HIGHMEMFIX=1
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458432
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693458432
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096 (SHD)
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=0
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
AC_SELF_SHADOW=0
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
D3D10=0
 
[sOUND]
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
UISound=1
AmbientUI=0
SOUND_FADER1=0.600000
SOUND_FADER2=0.730000
SOUND_FADER3=0.600000
SOUND_FADER4=0.500000
AmbientUIMusic=FSX01
 
[Display]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
WideViewAspect=True
 
[Main]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
SimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\Aircraft
ProcSpeed=9000
PerfBucket=7
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
Location=440,130,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=1
DisablePreload=1
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.1
 
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
QUICKTIPS=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
 
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=4
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
 
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
Trilinear=1
 
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
 
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
 
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
 
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[slewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
 
[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
 
[slewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
 
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
 
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
 
[uSERINTERFACE]
PageID=1
OpenATCOnCreate=0
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
Map_Orientation=2
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
SelectAircraftManufacturer=All
SelectAircraftPublisher=All
SelectAircraftType=All
 
[ATC]
ShowATCText=0
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
UsePilotVoice=0
PilotVoice=0
 
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
 
[sCENERY]
LENSFLARE=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3
 
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=30
GADensity=15
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=14
LeisureBoatsDensity=14
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3
 
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=80
MESH_RESOLUTION=23
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=27
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=1
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=5
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=1000 //4500 default
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=3000 //3000 default
 
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
 
[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0
 
[REALISM]
PFactor=1.000000
Torque=1.000000
GyroEffect=1.000000
CrashTolerance=1.000000
General=1.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=False
RealMixture=False
StressDamage=False
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=True
CrashWithDyn=True
CrashDetection=True
AutoTrim=False
 
[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=1
 
[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=
LoadWindow=1
 
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=1244
 
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
 
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti.0.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
Anisotropic=1
AntiAlias=1
 
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0
 
I'll try to get the DX10 stuff working again, I'll post back with an update.

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I can't get AA to work in DX10 at all whatsoever. I adjusted my NI settings to accommodate, turned AA and AF on in FSX, still horrendous looking jagged lines. Also edited my CFG with these:

 

MultiSamplesPerPixel=4
MultiSampleQuality=8
 
Because I heard it improves AA quality in DX10. I can't get this to work and even if it does give me a performance boost I hardly believe it's for any other reason other than the fact that I don't have any Anti Aliasing or AF anymore. I reinstalled Steve's tweaks and followed all his instructions. Everyone else seems to have great looking graphics in their DX10 setups, mine looks like garbage.
 
Help?

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