Hello fellow pilots. So far the product has just blown me away and I barely even played with it. But I do want to ask a question. When in custom mode of Ground Operations you choose the turn-around time. So say I wanted 01:11 for the Turn-Around. So I key it in and I get 01:51? Sorry if it's a stupid question but how do I go around this?

as far as i know you cant set it below the "minimum refuel time"

 

 

Sorry if it's a stupid question but how do I go around this?

 

What's 111, put into HH:MM format?  :wink:

 

 

 

 

(Answer: 111 - 60 = 51, which is 1:51.  If you want 1:11, use 71)

Ohh. Thank you very much! I just didn't know they used that format. Cheers!

Ohh. Thank you very much! I just didn't know they used that format. Cheers!

 

You're welcome.  It all starts to make sense when you think about it.

 

There's no : symbol on the CDU, so how would you tell it you're using HH:MM versus MMMM?

 

It's a little awkward, but not too difficult when you're used to it.

Exactly. I was thinking how you'd go about it without the : symbol. But I only bought it a bit late today plus the learning and assignments can't really blame me :s

In relation to this question I found out you can only set the minimum time of 00:35 mins which is too much for me on the ground because where I usually fly it only takes 11 - 12 mins to fuel up. I hope that I'm not the only one who wants full control of the ground operations. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy Flying!!

 

 

...because where I usually fly it only takes 11 - 12 mins to fuel up. I hope that I'm not the only one who wants full control of the ground operations. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

As a former rampie, you are not going to see a quick turn like that, even on a T7.  Fueling is only part of the game.

 

If you want quicker, you're getting into the unrealistic side.  You can't offload and reload passengers/bags/cargo on that size of aircraft in 11-12 min.  So where do you draw the line?  I want realistic fuel loading with unrealistic passenger loading?  I don't see that as something that's worth pursuing, sorry.

 

Just my thought, though.  I'm not an official spokesperson...

I understand. I just want to get to the take-off roll as quick as safe to do so. Anyways thanks for the quick responses and answers. You've been a great help to people like me who just got the aircraft. Happy flying and the best of luck!

 

 

Anyways thanks for the quick responses and answers. You've been a great help to people like me who just got the aircraft.

 

You're welcome.  Glad I'm here to help (despite the gruff posts from time to time).

As a former rampie, you are not going to see a quick turn like that, even on a T7.  Fueling is only part of the game.

 

If you want quicker, you're getting into the unrealistic side.  You can't offload and reload passengers/bags/cargo on that size of aircraft in 11-12 min.  So where do you draw the line?  I want realistic fuel loading with unrealistic passenger loading?  I don't see that as something that's worth pursuing, sorry.

 

Just my thought, though.  I'm not an official spokesperson...

 

 

I understand. I just want to get to the take-off roll as quick as safe to do so. Anyways thanks for the quick responses and answers. You've been a great help to people like me who just got the aircraft. Happy flying and the best of luck!

 

One way around this would be to essentially make it so that you come on the aircraft sometime after the turn-around procedure begins (which wouldn't be totally unrealistic, since it starts when the previous crew are still on board) - so for those who only want to spend 15 minutes at the gate (which is somewhat unrealistic) they could design it so the turnaround starts 40 minutes into the 55 minute turnaround. 

 

Just an idea.

 

 

Just an idea.

 

...right, but the whole point of the ground ops thing is the turnaround.  If you're looking for coming into the plane with 10 minutes left til push the cargo and pax are likely already there.  The rest is all in the panel state.

...right, but the whole point of the ground ops thing is the turnaround.  If you're looking for coming into the plane with 10 minutes left til push the cargo and pax are likely already there.  The rest is all in the panel state.

 

I know that's the point  - but the crew of the departing flight isn't going to be on the aircraft right at the start of the 1.5 hour turnaround (or potentially even the 55 minute turnaround) from what I understand, so arguably being able to come in half-way through (the 15 minutes left example is a bit extreme) wouldn't be unrealistic.

I am still not able to work well with turn around times. I setup a short turn around, in the fuel section I input plan fuel 107,000 lbs. My UPLIFT Fuel shows 0lbs and time to fuel says 00:00. 

During the course even in the last two minutes of end of turn around my fuel load never started. Can someone explain how do you work with fuel load in ground ops ?

Is there a step I am missing??

You must ensure your wheel chock are set for the fuel to start