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Steven_Caffey     I can't seem to get my joystick button to show up like you have in your picture.  I just get the Z to show under the keyboard.  When I click my joystick button to set it, it just put's a Z under the keyboard column, no button number, no repeat.  In the PMDG it's set to CTRL+SHIFT+Z.

 

 

I uninstalled my 777 passenger and freighter.   Rebooted my comp several times and loaded FSX a couple  times as well,  Installed the 777.  Loaded FSX a few times and rebooted my comp several times.   Loaded the default freighter and flew a short flight and alarm still won't shut off.

 

Slept on it and after some hours of rest I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this bird, mothball it or fly it.  I was feeling a bit like I was in the movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, with a little spin on it.  I took my plane out last night and it sang to me.  Hehe 

 

I'll still try to figure out what is causing it but not sure if I am willing to be flying long hauls and not be able to disconnect the A/P and have to listen to my musical friend from then on until reboot.  I need to think on this.

 

Thanks much for everyone's help.

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I always use the "hidden in the  screw key" on the MCP :)  Left click it for TOGA, center click it for AT Disc, right click it for AP Disc :)  Works like a charm ...


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Steven_Caffey     I can't seem to get my joystick button to show up like you have in your picture.  I just get the Z to show under the keyboard.  When I click my joystick button to set it, it just put's a Z under the keyboard column, no button number, no repeat.  In the PMDG it's set to CTRL+SHIFT+Z.

 

Sounds like you have some other program running that is mapping keystrokes to your hardware.  JoKer, FSUIPC (registered), or anything else?

 

 

 


I uninstalled my 777 passenger and freighter.   Rebooted my comp several times and loaded FSX a couple  times as well,  Installed the 777.  Loaded FSX a few times and rebooted my comp several times.   Loaded the default freighter and flew a short flight and alarm still won't shut off.

 

This should be the absolute last resort.  I understand what you're experiencing is frustrating, but there's no sense in uninstalling/reinstalling.  As you can see, the issue is still there, which means it's probably something you're doing, or some other program interacting.  In the game of troubleshooting, the error is most often that of the human (not a shot at you - just a fact of life).

 

Can you post a screenshot of your KEY COMMANDS page?


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If he has his controllers disabled in FSX, he will be unable to program buttons for it.  The symptoms he describes sounds like that is a distinct possibility.


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Rick,

 

I have only been flying the standard FedEx paint. I have yet to fly any Pax variants. In my instances, the caution light usually is Lit by something which I can see, Butt as I clear the caution, the message goes away and the light is still lit. I have also gotten a caution and not seen a message, where pressing the button still does not remove the light. I have also tried hitting recall, but to be honest I am not entirely sure that is what I should be doing in the first place.

I had that issue on my very first flight (amber caution light would not go off, with no message on the eicas, and nothing after recall). I was using the air france cargo livery.

I also encountered the "no clickable buttons" shortly after takeoff as I wanted to raise the landing gear. Lasted for about 10 seconds. And then the sim crashed.

 

That's what I call an inauguration flight !  :lol:  

 

Second flight I did not have any of these issues (boeing worldliner caro version).

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Sounds like you have some other program running that is mapping keystrokes to your hardware.  JoKer, FSUIPC (registered), or anything else?

I have USPIC4 registered but don't use it much yet. The only setting I have changed is to click the  ' Weather Settings Off '  button. 

 

 

This should be the absolute last resort.  I understand what you're experiencing is frustrating, but there's no sense in uninstalling/reinstalling.  As you can see, the issue is still there, which means it's probably something you're doing, or some other program interacting.  In the game of troubleshooting, the error is most often that of the human (not a shot at you - just a fact of life).   Can you post a screenshot of your KEY COMMANDS page? 

 

 
I screw-up all the time, hehe.  No worries.  ( I'm probably going to make a big mess out of this post. :) )  Here's a picture of my FSX settings.  Hopefully I did this right.  I'm not much on forums.  As far as reinstalling the 777's, I got the feeling it wasn't in the pmdg but something the way I had it set up but couldn't figure anything else to do so a fresh install seemed the way to go. (<---  I can't get this font to change.  Copy and pasted or something. )

My pictures don't want to post and I'm not sure if I'm doing it properly.  My settings in FSX look the same as Steven_Daffey except I have nothing in the joystick and repeat sections where he has Button 4, Button 3 and the two sliders. 

 

 

As a further:  I'm using a Saitek X52 as a joystick but it's got over 12k hours on it and is, literally, falling apart. I wouldn't think my problem is because of my old joystick but stranger things have probably happened.   I just received my new Saitek Yoke System as I'm writing this.  Maybe with my fresh 777 install and new yoke I will install it and see what happens.  I most likely will have to trouble shoot still though but who knows, eh.  This troubleshooting wears me out and is affecting my calm.  :blink:

 

 

Robert McDonald   I checked and my joystick is enabled in FSX.  Thanks, though.

 

Thanks for all the help everyone.  Very much appreciated.  I'll hang in here but am just very tired, not the sleepy tired.  My apologies to you, as well, as I try to figure out how to use these forum tools.

 

Positive note:  The OOM situation I've been also quietly working on seems to be resolved. B)

    

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have used Chris(B777 F/O)'s tip and it works a charm.

 

@Steve Caffey

Thanks for that too.

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vc10man   

 

 

I have used Chris(B777 F/O)'s tip and it works a charm.

 

@Steve Caffey

Thanks for that too.

 

I tried that too.  Didn't work for me.

 

I'm going to install my new yoke now and see what happens.

 

Cheers.

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Sadly, my new, left at default factory settings, Saitek flight yoke made no difference to the horn still sounding after disconnect. I disconnected my old x52 joystick, rebooted comp several times, installed new yoke drivers and such in a new folder with new config tool.  A bit of me was hoping it might have had to do with the old joystick but really didn't think so.

 

So I left the new yoke at default settings and checked it out with the freighter and passenger 777's.  The yoke seems to be working fine at default. 

 

Loaded FSX and freighter and turned on A/P.

 

I disconnected the A/P with the black button on the virtual cockpit yoke with  1 1/2 second between button presses, right clicked the short cut screw with the  1  1/2 second wait time.   I did these several times each.

 

Never touched the A/P Disengage Bar.

 

My FSX A/P button is 'Z'.

 

My  A/P Disengage Switch in the FMC is  SHIFT+CTRL+Z.

 

Resettable Siren in the FMC is  Yes

 

FSUIPC4 Registered,  I only clicked the ' Weather Settings Off '  button

 

I did all of the above with the passenger 777 as well.  Both 777's are the default and only 777's installed.

 

This is such a great bird, I'd probably even go so far as to re install my FSX or maybe even reinstall my WIN7 if need be.  I'm feeling a little fresher now. :lol:   This yoke feels really comfortable too.

 

I don't know.  It just doesn't make sense that this alarm won't shut off.  Must solve this mystery.

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For those of you wanting to go far enough to unintelligible FS or even windows, that is not necessary. Maybe a clear default FSX install might help, but windows most likely won't. There are many people with this issue, as it's not even the only thread posted about this where people have stated clearly that they have resettable siren on and are clicking the correct buttons. If the alarm going off is the only problem, just go into the FMC and find the PMDG sound options to disable the alarm (top right option I believe). It is definitely not a solution but it is a temporary relief.

 

As for this possibly be human error, I can understand why this is said but I do not believe this to be the case. Why is this happening to so few people, I am not sure. I do know that I have read through how to disengage the autopilot and have read it reiterated in this thread and others several times. With the resettable siren on, and clicking not only the disarm button on the 777 yoke as well as right clicking the screw on the Mcp this is still an issue where the siren sound continues. When the disarm is pressed once, the AP disengages and the siren sounds along with a master caution and message on the EICAS. When pressed again, the master caution and message disappear yet the siren still continues. I feel like the key both disarm presses are registering but the sound chooses to continue.


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Merlin216  I agree with you 100%.

 

I was just reading thru a bunch of manuals and am just sitting on an active runway after just loading FSX.  Just sitting there and throttled up a bit and sound warning come on for  'config flaps' and I wasn't sure how to turn that off.  I just quickly put CTRL+J  into the Captain, the FO's  Warnings > Master Warnings for the heck of it but it didn't shut off the warning sound so I cleared it out.

 

Yeah, I think I'll just shut off the sound by turning the warning sound level to 0.   Make some miles,  digest it some more, see what shakes.

 

Blue skies.

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Guys, you do realize that the setting RESETTABLE SIREN makes absolutely no difference if you're following the proper procedures, right?


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Press button.

 

Count three WHOOPs.

 

Press button.

 

Fly.

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Count three WHOOPs.

 

I think I'm gonna have to use that now.

 

Watch, I'll be recording a video and whooping along with it as a memory item...haha.


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I think I'm gonna have to use that now.

 

Watch, I'll be recording a video and whooping along with it as a memory item...haha.

 

Ha, now that would be worth wading through 2 hours of video for!

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