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Vox not working properly

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I am flying the pmdg 777 and I am having difficulty getting Vox to work. I am trying to do IFR flights. I build it with FSC and then download the flight plans with simroutes (one copy of pln to fsx and another rte to pmdg). I can get my flightplan to show up in the 777 FMC and it shows up in FSX. However, when I launch Vox it considers it a VFR flight and gives me all sorts of problems. I used to use EFB with the 737ngx and didn't have a problem with vox. I have followed the instructions on how to setup a vox ifr plan (including saving the flight), but I am still running into difficulty. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 

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I am flying the pmdg 777 and I am having difficulty getting Vox to work. I am trying to do IFR flights. I build it with FSC and then download the flight plans with simroutes (one copy of pln to fsx and another rte to pmdg). I can get my flightplan to show up in the 777 FMC and it shows up in FSX. However, when I launch Vox it considers it a VFR flight and gives me all sorts of problems. I used to use EFB with the 737ngx and didn't have a problem with vox. I have followed the instructions on how to setup a vox ifr plan (including saving the flight), but I am still running into difficulty. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 

 

It sounds like you are just loading the flightplan and then taking off. That is not possible and will have VoxATC to think that you are going for a VFR flight somewhere.

 

You must do the following:

 

1. Start FSX.

2. Place aircraft at departing airport and correct gate.

3. Load flightplan.

4. Save flight.

5. Load the saved flight and enable VoxATC.

I've seen where some folks recommend that you save the flight. I've never had to do that. I place the aircraft at the gate at the time I want to fly. I then choose the aircraft I'm going to use. Then I load the flightplan. I then hit fly now. If you change aircraft after you hit fly now might be where the problem is.

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Yes you must save and load a flight with the flight plan you want.

 

You can use VOXATC without loading a flight plan but not a flight planned route, you cant expect it to know where you want to go without it, small price to pay and doesnt take long to set up.

 

I have my flights saved with a flight plan for use when i want.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rich

 

 


I place the aircraft at the gate at the time I want to fly. I then choose the aircraft I'm going to use. Then I load the flightplan. I then hit fly now.

 

That's exactly how I do it as well. Never ever started from a saved flight.

 

Jay

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The problem how to start an IFR flight with Vox has come up several times on this forum:

 

1. Create a flightplan with any application saving a .PLN plan in FSX format (eg FACTFALE_737.PLN).

2. Start FSX, select aircraft, select airport and gate. Do not start your flight yet!

3. Select FSX flight planner and load FACTFALE_737.PLN. Say no to move aircraft.

4. Save the flight as FACT-FALE or something appropriate (creating a FACT-FALE.FLT file).

5. Now start your flight, enable Vox and you should see the Vox window with the ATIS frequency (if the airport has ATIS).

Regards,

Andreas Gutzwiller

Andreas,

 

I'm with you up until step 4. I just have never saved the flight, I just hit "Fly Now'. It's always worked for me, and I've been using VoxATC since fs9.

 

I'm NOT saying that it won't work as you describe, obviously it does. I'm only suggesting that it's not a neccessity to start from a saved flight.

 

Quote from the manual:

"Start FSX and select Free Flight from the menu list on the left. Click on the flight planner button

and create and save the flight plan. Setup the weather, aircraft etc and then save the flight. Click the fly now button and start the flight. Set the VoxATC options and then enable VoxATC.

Always ensure that VoxATC is not enabled before ending or resetting a flight or loading a different one."

 

Now, this procedure is EXACTLY as you describe, but my point is nowhere does it state that you have to load a saved flight and then hit 'Fly Now', so why save the flight at all?

 

Jay

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This is from the 6.20 manual pg. 28:

 

Start FSX and select Free Flight from the menu list on the left. Click on the flight planner button
and create and save the flight plan. Setup the weather, aircraft etc and then save the flight. Click
the fly now button and start the flight. Set the VoxATC options and then enable VoxATC.
 
I guess you can start right away without loading, because FSX should has the flightplan now (hopefully).
But I can only say that after many years using VoxATC and having the same problems as Red259 in the beginning, loading a saved flight is the safe way to go.
 
Anyway, the point here is for Red259 to try this and see if it works for him.
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Ok. I have followed the steps above exactly and Vox still does not work. I start Vox up and it insists on thinking its a VFR flight (and on top of that it won't even run the vfr flight properly). I have saved flights, loaded flights and have done every variation. I am not getting the option for a flight officer either. The only thing I can think is that the problem is the navdata. The 777 came out with the latest navdata and I haven't purchases the newest cycle. Could this be the problem?

Ok. I have followed the steps above exactly and Vox still does not work. I start Vox up and it insists on thinking its a VFR flight (and on top of that it won't even run the vfr flight properly). I have saved flights, loaded flights and have done every variation. I am not getting the option for a flight officer either. The only thing I can think is that the problem is the navdata. The 777 came out with the latest navdata and I haven't purchases the newest cycle. Could this be the problem?

 

 

Navdata in LVLD format is only needed for Vox to assigne SIDs and STARs. No other effect.

 

Load/create and save your (IFR) flightplan before hitting the "Fly now!" button and before changing the default trike on startup.

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Navdata in LVLD format is only needed for Vox to assigne SIDs and STARs. No other effect.

 

Load/create and save your (IFR) flightplan before hitting the "Fly now!" button and before changing the default trike on startup.

Nope this didn't change anything either. The weird thing is vox still works on my saved flights from the 737 and I can take those save flights and fly them with the 777. I am just unable to add new flights in. Maybe I am saving the flightplans in the wrong place? I save one in the pmdg flightplans folder (an .rte file) and I save one in my documents library under Flight Simulator X files (a.pln file), which is where all my EFB flightplans were saved when I was using EFB and those all still work. 

Look up the location of a plan that still works and make sure FSX saves to that same place.

 

I remember, when using FSX and FS9 on the same drive, one day my FSX plans would save to the FS9 flightplan folder ...

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The flight plans I use for VOX are in the Flight Simulator X Files in the Documents folder.

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The flight plans I use for VOX are in the Flight Simulator X Files in the Documents folder.

Yep this is where mine are. I was creating flight plans with the trial version of FSC so I am going to try and create one with routefinder, which is what I used for the EFB flights and see if that makes a difference. I do notice that each program came up with slightly different waypoints. 

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Yep this is where mine are. I was creating flight plans with the trial version of FSC so I am going to try and create one with routefinder, which is what I used for the EFB flights and see if that makes a difference. I do notice that each program came up with slightly different waypoints. 

That failed to work as well. I am really at a loss why I can not make this work. 

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