Hi Guys,

              What is the best way of visualising SIDs, STARs and transitions when planning a flight? I have FS Commander, which works to some extent, as well as FSBuild and Plan G. My difficulty is that the routes that FS Commader suggests sometimes do not correspond with those in the FMS of my Majestic Q400, and it can be difficult to choose the best, most realistic proceedure to suit the overall route and specific runway for the weather.

 

What do most people use for this task?

 

Cheers,

 

Noel.

 

My difficulty is that the routes that FS Commader suggests sometimes do not correspond with those in the FMS of my Majestic Q400,

Not sure what you mean by that. If you mean the waypoints, nav aids etc do not agree then make sure the nav data for each program has the same date.

If you can find a source of real World routes try those or give an example route that doesn't work for you.

Fs Commander and the Q400 procedures should match if you're using the same nav data source for both.

 

As an alternative I'm pretty sure PFPX built routes will suggest Sids and Stars based on the weather.

EFB payware will show you by arrows overlay-ed on a map that points to your desired track. Doesn't get any easier than that, works 100%

Thanks for your help. In FSX, the GPS will show arrival procedures (STARs and transitions) but if it can show SIDs, I don't know how to show them. The Q400 FMS seems to have many more options than the default GPS, among them SIDs and airways. I'd like to visualise these, to make informed selection, rather than by trial and error. It seems to me that this has to be done outside of FSX in some kind of flight planning application, but the ones I have (FS Commander, FSBuild and Plan G, aren't great in this respect.

 

I guess I'm asking if there is another flight planning application out there that is better than FS Commander for visualising SIDs, STARs and Transitions?

 

Cheers,

 

Noel.

Fs Commander and the Q400 procedures should match if you're using the same nav data source for both.

 

As an alternative I'm pretty sure PFPX built routes will suggest Sids and Stars based on the weather.

Yes, it does!

I only did a few flights with it, but on two of these flights, PFPX chose a SID that belonged to a different runway. Yesterday I flew from LIME to EDDP in the PMDG T7 and while everything looked good on the paper, I recognised, while entering the route into the FMC, that the suggested SID is only available at RWY 10, due to the wind I was taking off on RWY 28.

So actually I still prefer using Aivlasoft's EFB for choosing the correct procedures. It is very easy to use.

Maybe I am doing something wrong in PFPX...

This is a "bug" that I have reported on the PFPX forum. PFPX suggests SIDs that are not valid for the runway it has selected based on the weather.

 

Most airports work fine, but I have this particular problem at KJAC.

EDDP doesn't have RW 28/10 . It has 26 L/R and 8 L/R

EDDP doesn't have RW 28/10 . It has 26 L/R and 8 L/R

Sorry, I meant LIME, the SID there was wrong!

So I understand from the comments above that the AivlaSoft EFB works pretty well. Anyone have a working link for their trial version? I can't access their website through: https://shop.aivlasoft.com/.

 

Cheers,

 

Noel.

http://www.aivlasoft.com/products/index.html

Thanks, but it seems to be offline. Maybe their server is down on right now. I'll try again tomorrow.

 

Cheers,

 

Noel.

Jeppesen is the only chart maker that I have seen that depicts sid/star overviews in this way.

Guys, EFB is not a flight planner in itself, just a (very good) way of visualising an imported flight plan and choosing appropriate Sids/Stars.

You can use EFB to build a plan if you want but it wont auto build a route for you, although you can very easily import a route from any other planning software or even a flight planning website like routefinder, the later is actually built into the App.