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Nice 777 Great aircraft , but I notice the landing and taxi light are too low (brightness).That not good when landing at night ,plus to taxi to the gate poor lighting ,Can that be in the next update....Thx

 

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Fact based on...?

what he see's on his monitor obviosly... :rolleyes: :lol: :ph34r:

 

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what you mean?

 

I mean:

How are you determining that the lights are not bright enough.  What fact are you basing this off of?  You can't really expect someone to go back and change something in a simulation just because someone says "it just doesn't look right to me."

 

Bring facts.

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The only reason PMDG would implement a fix would be if one has evidence directly from Boeing.

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geez relax people, maybe he means they are low for him for whatever reason, Clayton could you please post a screenshot in the night, both cockpit and outside then we will see if you are seeing the same thing as us or if yours are dimmer than ours.

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Bring facts.

That's funny as the issue is purely subjective. Can you provide an example of what these facts might hypothetically entail?

 

Anyhow, moving on...

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Just for comparison. Here is what mine looks like. Using REX that can mess with lights.Some aircraft are unrealistically bright.

 

 

jil6.jpg

 

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Id say REX has dimmed and changed your lights, i dont use REX anymore, but when I did, and also AS2012 GFX I always turned off the ac lighting effects changes as they often screwed stuff up on the better commercial pay ware.

 

For the OP though, one thing to consider is the scenery that you are observing the dimmer lights, there is an issue with how some ground taxiways/Runways are created that can effect how the lights are seen. 

 

Also there have been issues with time of day and effects on lights then, the transitions to Dusk/Dawn can sometimes result in strange lighting.

 

I personally find the 777 lighting to be quite good, and considerably better than the NGX which often had issues.

 

Other questions for OP is are you using any shader modifications, ENB etc. Again all will have an effect on your lighting.

 

A screen grab with info on where it taken(scenery being used), time of night etc, along with any comments on the above will help us determine why you may actually be getting dimmer lights.

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I will take a screenshot of what i see  the next time  am in flightsim. also I will check it out at other airports  ,I use rex  so that can be the problem too.  I will do some more testing...

 

and thank for all your reply. 

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That's funny as the issue is purely subjective.

 

It really isn't.

 

A 60 Watt incandescent bulb is going to produce about 800 lumens.  Fact.

"A 60W incandescent bulb is too bright." Subjective.

 

"[T]he landing and taxi light are too low (brightness)." You are correct that this stated opinion is subjective.

"Can that be in the next update." Suggests that this is factually incorrect because he believes it should be changed based on his subjective view of the plane.  This is not based on any fact.  Simply his feeling.

 

If you want something changed, you should bring facts.

 

So yeah, thanks for stating the obvious: his opinion is purely subjective.  The fact that he brought no facts to the discussion was obvious.  Thus, my attempt to pull facts into it by asking him what his assertion is based on.  If it's only his (subjective) opinion as it stands, then it really has no merit as a basis for changing it.

 

Adding facts to that, like "I've been flying a 777 since Boeing handed them over to the airlines" would boost the subjective take.

 

Other facts to back up subjective assertions:

"The cockpit color seems too warm.  Boeing's specification is PANTONE 12345.  Comparing a screenshot to that swatch shows that the color is slightly off."

 

Am I seriously discussing persuasive writing right now?

 

Well...that being the case, here's a guide for those of you who fail entirely at being convincing:

http://www.studygs.net/wrtstr4.htm

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Id say REX has dimmed and changed your lights, i dont use REX anymore,

Ya, i usually dont have REX assign textures for aircraft light. Think I installed a different texture set and perhaps forgot to omit aircraft lighting. I have also seen aircraft lights so bright the block out taxi and runway center lines. Thats not good.

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Ya, i usually dont have REX assign textures for aircraft light. Think I installed a different texture set and perhaps forgot to omit aircraft lighting. I have also seen aircraft lights so bright the block out taxi and runway center lines. Thats not good.

 

That looks normal.  Also, a lot of people also turn on their Runway Turnoff Lights on landing at night; which also increases the brightness of the runway quite a bit.  I leave mine off when landing at night for that purpose.

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I seem to recall a message thread during the beta test period that posed this question and the tech team pilots responded that this is how it looks out of the cockpit.

 

Pete Mac Paint

PMDG Graphic Designer

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I have a question about taxi light.In NGX it moves with angle of wheels to the right and left because of the light position.But in my 777 taxi light only illuminates directly from the nose without turning when taxiing.Is it normal?

 

EFE

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Landing, Taxi and Runway Turn Off light brightness are modeled as exactly that of the actual aircraft. This has been verified by a few of our tech pilots.

 

Fact is, the aircraft is big, it sits high off the ground and the wings are farther behind the cockpit, it is quite a stretch for the illumination to shine up the area in front of you.

 

Brightness will vary at certain commercial airports due to differences in materials and we cannot account for every kind of material, it is simply way too much work. What you see is a fair compromise between what is realistic and unrealistic.

 

Oh and for those who think that the nose gear lights should turn with the nose gear, you are thinking of the NGX. The 777 does NOT have lights that turn with the nose wheel.

 

Regards,

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I have a question about taxi light.In NGX it moves with angle of wheels to the right and left because of the light position.But in my 777 taxi light only illuminates directly from the nose without turning when taxiing.Is it normal?

 

EFE

That's because the 737 has the taxi light is mounted on the nose gear, and the 777 don't

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Calm down please, some one is asking for help and this is a hobby after all; if you feel there is a lack of fact based evidence given initially, then there is a way of asking for more information from them that isn't so abrupt, I didn't understand your initial response myself, maybe that's just me. I have read other comments on the forums you have made and enjoyed your commentary very much and you clearly very knowledgeable and passionate about aviation. I think in this case you are getting off the subject 'a wee bit' in educating the rest of us on how to be more scientific in our questions No hard feelings. 

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I'm making some popcorn.

 

:lol: . It really is like a soap opera 'round here sometimes.

 

Kyle, no need to take every complaint in here as a direct attack on you.

Sometimes I'd swear you built the damn thing!!!

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:lol: . It really is like a soap opera 'round here sometimes.

 

Kyle, no need to take every complaint in here as a direct attack on you.

Sometimes I'd swear you built the damn thing!!!

 

Clearly not. If he had it would obviously be perfect. Fact!

 

I'm not  a fan of ppl who almost berate comments made by others on forums like this. After all we are all here for help and advice and sometimes to express opinions.

 

Just my personal opinion of course. :lol:

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:lol: . It really is like a soap opera 'round here sometimes.

 

Kyle, no need to take every complaint in here as a direct attack on you.

Sometimes I'd swear you built the damn thing!!!

Agreed. It wasn't even a complaint, a guy asking a question or for help and guess what...pompous git jumps down someones throat again...Elitism should have no place here.

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People come here for help because they like what they have bought. Maybe to ask a question because they may not understand something or everything. Don't repel them.

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People come here for help because they like what they have bought. Maybe to ask a question because they may not understand something or everything. Don't repel them.

 

Couldn't agree more!!

 

If you don't want to help, please do not post.

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