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Hey '5'...where are ya?

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Did she fly off the face of the XPX world?  I haven't seen her post in quite some time.

 

 

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She's around, I'm sure!

 

Otherwise, the Yin energy would be off, and everything feels under perfect equilibrium :-) to me, again... :Ying Yang:

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She got banned for giving a link to a xp10 payware of the B58 Carenado. She was trying to help Phantom88 get his updated B58 faster but it's illegal to send payware links by PM. She didn't know, was just trying tohelp another member. 

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She got banned for giving a link to a xp10 payware of the B58 Carenado. She was trying to help Phantom88 get his updated B58 faster but it's illegal to send payware links by PM. She didn't know, was just trying tohelp another member. 

ah...so is that 'ban' a permanent happening?  

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She got banned for giving a link to a xp10 payware of the B58 Carenado. She was trying to help Phantom88 get his updated B58 faster but it's illegal to send payware links by PM. She didn't know, was just trying tohelp another member. 

 

VERY unfortunate! Maybe the Avsim mods should reconsider their decision?

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That is too bad.  She really added a lot to the Avsim X-Plane community.  She will be missed on these message boards.

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She's still on Avsim using a different name. 

Well Five...or who ever you post as...we miss you, your energy, and too bad matters went the way they did, for by your online personality, there is no way that I can imagine that you would do anything in any type of underhanded manner.  I don't see why a personal PM to you would not have corrected that and sufficed, for obviously you would have not done what was being objected to again after it being pointed out to you via that P.M message from AVSIM.

 

....well, I hope my post and other's makes you feel warm and good inside.  I have always enjoyed your input...so...carry on, under any banner....   Happy Flying!

 

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She got banned for giving a link to a xp10 payware of the B58 Carenado. She was trying to help Phantom88 get his updated B58 faster but it's illegal to send payware links by PM. She didn't know, was just trying tohelp another member. 

 

 

Seriously? if indeed the case, lt's pretty black and white despite any way to justify it.

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Seriously? if indeed the case, lt's pretty black and white despite any way to justify it.

If I understand, that she only gave the link to where you may purchase it...then I don't understand their response.  But..if she gave an actual download link to the file that you'd only receive by buying the plane...then...that is a much different matter, entirely.  That would show clear intent...so I'm hoping it was only the 'where to buy and download' link that she P.M.'ed another member with........

 

Still miss the energy, and laughter....:(

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This was a very unfortunate situation, and Five, trying to do her best to help someone who actually owned the model, but was having difficulties in getting the update, ended up doing something that she really would not do if that person wasn't a legitimate owner of the aircraft!

 

It's very sad that it happened, and above all, it's all of us who ended up losing such an important member for a while. Thanksfully she's back, under a new user ID :-))))))

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Seriously? if indeed the case, lt's pretty black and white despite any way to justify it.

 

Agree.

 

And as I understand it, it wasn't just a link to buy it, it was a link to an illegal source to download it.    That can never be justified.   I am sure if someone shared a pirated link to a PMDG product we would all be rightly outraged;  why would it be different for a payware XP10 product?  .......... maybe she was not as naive as you all think.

 

Also blatently discussing the fact that a banned member is 'back using an other ID' is a bit naive;  I know the AVSIM Staff can search by IPs so her 'new' ID may well now be discovered and banned also, as a result of those of you choosing to discuss that in public.           - rightly or wrongly.

 

Just an opinion.

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Agree.

 

And as I understand it, it wasn't just a link to buy it, it was a link to an illegal source to download it.    That can never be justified.   I am sure if someone shared a pirated link to a PMDG product we would all be rightly outraged;  why would it be different for a payware XP10 product?  .......... maybe she was not as naive as you all think.

 

Also blatently discussing the fact that a banned member is 'back using an other ID' is a bit naive;  I know the AVSIM Staff can search by IPs so her 'new' ID may well now be discovered and banned also, as a result of those of you choosing to discuss that in public.           - rightly or wrongly.

 

Just an opinion.

 

 

If indeed the case, agree!

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WOW!! This is all news to me,I vaguely remember the incident ,I believe I was trying to get the 64bit version of the Baron,[Carenado does not put version #'s on their new links] I purchased the product legally through Carenado.

 

I'm very,very sorry this happened to her for trying to help me.My humblest apologies 

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Well, Q_flyer, it's probably not as easy as you think it is, or I think it is.

 

My idea is that someone owned an aircraft model, and was entitled to download the update for the 64 bit version, but!, wasn't managing to get it ( maybe because it was not directly bought from the original producer ? I really don't know... ), so, what I believe Five provided was a link to the 64 bit-ready version that the person would eventually have access to.

 

This is of course a violation of the EULA for that product, but, at the same time, I can't consider it piracy!

 

About her return, with a new ID, if that really is the case, what I think, specially given that Five was a respected member of our community, and someone whose posts and overall contribution, not only at the X-Plane forums, is certainly recognized by most of us, is that maybe we should instead ask AVSIM to allow Five back - as Five!  I think she deserves it, and we miss her posts!

 

Of course I understand AVSIM's very delicate position in a case like this one, but provided Five recognizes her unthought decision to give the link to the other member, I believe it would be possible for the staff to revoke the ban.

 

In the end, we will all profit from such a wise decision!!!

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Phantom, thank you for your honesty and true demonstration of support to Five! 

 

;-)

 

Let's all hope the problem get's solved the best way, and, you shouldn't really fill anyway guilty, just as I think Five shouldn't !!!

 

And.... we all have IMO to also understand AVSIM's delicate and complex position / decision!

 

It was simply a very unfortunate incident.

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I found it a bit ironic when she opened an .org account, explained her banning from here on her profile page, and then immediately got banned from there too...

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 I purchased the product legally through Carenado.

 

I'm glad you cleared things up, some people were starting to speculate on the details....lol

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I'm glad you cleared things up, some people were starting to speculate on the details....lol

Yeah,I can imagine,I assure you I'm not a Pirate[Not even on "Talk like a Pirate Day" :P ] My CC Bills and Wife will confirm that.

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Agree.

 

And as I understand it, it wasn't just a link to buy it, it was a link to an illegal source to download it.    That can never be justified.   I am sure if someone shared a pirated link to a PMDG product we would all be rightly outraged;  why would it be different for a payware XP10 product?  .......... maybe she was not as naive as you all think.

 

Also blatently discussing the fact that a banned member is 'back using an other ID' is a bit naive;  I know the AVSIM Staff can search by IPs so her 'new' ID may well now be discovered and banned also, as a result of those of you choosing to discuss that in public.           - rightly or wrongly.

 

Just an opinion.

it was her download link from her email...not a pirate site.

I found it a bit ironic when she opened an .org account, explained her banning from here on her profile page, and then immediately got banned from there too...

she's still at the .org and here under different login names.

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Agree.

 

And as I understand it, it wasn't just a link to buy it, it was a link to an illegal source to download it.    That can never be justified.   I am sure if someone shared a pirated link to a PMDG product we would all be rightly outraged;  why would it be different for a payware XP10 product?  .......... maybe she was not as naive as you all think.

 

Also blatently discussing the fact that a banned member is 'back using an other ID' is a bit naive;  I know the AVSIM Staff can search by IPs so her 'new' ID may well now be discovered and banned also, as a result of those of you choosing to discuss that in public.           - rightly or wrongly.

 

Just an opinion.

many people use this, impossible to ban these people:

 

http://hidemyass.com/  over 50 000 ip's in over 62 countries.

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