DC-6 From Feb 2012

[CrewF16]

I was just looking at some of the screens from the original post from February 2012 about the Secret Project. IMO I think PMDG should drop all else and finish this including a freighter version. Could you imagine all the different liveries from then and now! The T7 is flying and although I do not own one yet from what I have read none of the issues are grounding. I would be the first one on the block for the 747v2. But we have been waiting for a long time for this one and I think it would fill a needed nitch. Can't wait for her any more.

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Ron

[JB3DG]

PMDG is not Captain Sim. They dont leave things undone.

[CrewF16]

I am not implying that they leave anything undone. Maybe I should have used the word "Postpone" instead of "Drop" everything. Trust me I am an avid and loyal PMDG customer. I do not believe there are any better. I just wish we could move the DC-6 to the front of the line, that is all.

 

 

Thanks,

Ron

[KriVa]

The DC-6 is, and always has been, meant as an "in between" project. It will most likely be treated as such.

When resources are available, work will continue on the DC-6. I imagine PMDG has enough on their plate right now, with the T7 patch/hotfix, the expansions, the 744v2,...

Those are the mainline projects, and as such they will probably be treated as such.

[Bob650]

PMDG is not Captain Sim. They dont leave things undone.

Is that right? How's that Dash 8 coming along?

 

-Bob

[JB3DG]

Is that right? How's that Dash 8 coming along?

 

-Bob

Um....It never did in the first place. Quite a difference between releasing something and not supporting it vs canning a project that never made it out the door.

 

Was refering to this: 

 

 

IMO I think PMDG should drop all else and finish this including a freighter version. Could you imagine all the different liveries from then and now! The T7 is flying and although I do not own one yet from what I have read none of the issues are grounding

 

 

And for the record I dont work for PMDG...

[KriVa]

Do you have it on your hard disk? Then things for you, as a user, aren't undone.

They never released it, and that's their right. Also, RSR said they were really aching to continue it, but that it would have to become a full size project, not an in-between one.

If they released, and didn't look back after release, but just continued to develop new planes, you'd have every right to complain.

Now, not so much...

[Guest BeaverDriver]

 

The DC-6 is, and always has been, meant as an "in between" project. It will most likely be treated as such.

When resources are available, work will continue on the DC-6. I imagine PMDG has enough on their plate right now, with the T7 patch/hotfix, the expansions, the 744v2,...

Those are the mainline projects, and as such they will probably be treated as such.

 

So was the Dash 8. As "Bob650" asked, where is it? I think the thrust of this thread (and similar threads) is that the DC 6 will disappear into vapourland after offering up some pretty tasty screenshots and getting a bunch of people here pretty excited about the idea. And, as the OP pointed out - nothing at all whatsoever new for a very long time now. Didn't PMDG come out and say that they would rather make it a priority item rather than "fitting it in between" other projects, after some consideration? With no new news in a very long time now, maybe it too is on it's way to "vapourland"? There is, after all, a precedent for that, and the scenario for the DC 6 so far is eerily similar to what we saw for the Dash 8. An update would be appreciated, even if it's to say it's been canceled.

[KriVa]

 

 

Didn't PMDG come out and say that they would rather make it a priority item rather than "fitting it in between" other projects, after some consideration?

Are you talking about the Dash 8 or about the DC-6? I remember Rob stating very clearly that the Dash 8 was a lot more detailed than they originally thought, which is why they put the project in hold in the first place. IF they'll be picking the Dash 8 up in the future, it will be a full blown development.

However, I can't remember a statement of that nature concerning the DC-6.

Also, let's just state this again: They have been busy. Which, in itself, is probably WHY there are no new screenshots. The DC-6 is not on the first place in the list of priorities. The hotfix/SP for the T7, and probably the first, maybe even the second, expansion pack are. And that is exactly the way it should be. Can you imagine the backlash they'd get if they were to finish the DC-6 first, and only THEN get around to working on the T7 patches? Sure, some guys would like it, but the majority would call them... Some names.

The DC-6 is not out yet, which means they have no commitment towards any of us about it. You could even go so far to say the screenshots were a gesture of good will, nothing more.

 

So please, don't blow the "non news" out of proportion.

[Bob650]

Do you have it on your hard disk? Then things for you, as a user, aren't undone.

They never released it, and that's their right. Also, RSR said they were really aching to continue it, but that it would have to become a full size project, not an in-between one.

If they released, and didn't look back after release, but just continued to develop new planes, you'd have every right to complain.

Now, not so much...

I'm sorry, but I'm not the one pimping upcoming projects all over the FS forums trying to generate interest just to leave them unfinished and unreleased. I understand completely why they don't advertise release dates, but I don't understand the complete silence on project order. Maybe they don't know. If so, say so. Maybe they know but they like all the forum traffic with the never ending speculation. But two things are certain. 1) PMDG produces world class FS models and 2) Their communication skills are about on par with the rest of the FS developers...poor.

 

-Bob

 

BTW, I wasn't complaining. Just asking a simple question.

[Fabo]

 

 

There is, after all, a precedent for that, and the scenario for the DC 6 so far is eerily similar to what we saw for the Dash 8.

 

Well I for one don't remember seeing a bunch of screenshots inside and outside the Dash 8...

[KriVa]

Well, this may be just me... But apart from the order in which the "secret projects" were presented, did anyone from the team (NOT the users but the guys from within PMDG) actually talk about the order of release?

My memory's fading, but I can't seem to remember it happening.

[z06z33]

What bothers me is I asked them here on the fourm if the DC-6 was even still in devolopment not for screens or a release date but if they were still even making it and they never even replied I have a feeling it has went the way of many of its real counterparts to the scrap heap

[Guest BeaverDriver]

What bothers me is I asked them here on the fourm if the DC-6 was even still in devolopment not for screens or a release date but if they were still even making it and they never even replied I have a feeling it has went the way of many of its real counterparts to the scrap heap

 

Yep. I did the same. Not only did I not get an answer from PMDG, but I was more-or-less shot down in "flames" for even asking such a question. I'm with "Bob650" on this. PMDG does the best work in terms of aircraft of any developer out there - bar none. And the poster who said they never leave anything undone or unfinished once completed (i.e. leaving the customer in the lurch with a buggy product) is absolutely correct. But there seems to be a real sense of arrogance from almost all developers in terms of "pimping" an aircraft at the outset, then invoking the "Secrecy Act" forever thereafter until the airplane almost hits Beta. That is what happened with the Dash 8-300, although to be fair, I too don't remember screenshots being displayed, but the airplane certainly was hyped! A lot of us got pretty excited about that prospect, yet as time went by we heard less and less about it. Finally people started asking if it was still in development. The answer was always yes... at least for the first few months. Then it was a "maybe". then everything went silent. Not completely dissimilar to this, although it seems the "Secrecy Act" has been imposed earlier this time. It is disrespectful to customers to hype something, then nary a word about it until maybe someday a beta version appears, or it's gone. Unfortunately, there are more apologists for the company (but not employed by the company) than there are people holding the company accountable, so the company is "enabled" and can basically do whatever they want. I respect and admire the entire PMDG team, but their "pimp-then-silent" treatment doesn't do anything to encourage that, and frankly, I'm at the point where I think I have enough airplanes now to do me, thank you very much. I belong to forums in a couple of other hobbies, and one never sees this sort of ignoring of customers' requests, and worse, flaming by non-company personnel at fair and honest questions in either of those places. Some good people have bailed because of this type of thing, and that leaves the entire community weakened. They won't be the last to bail.

 

Climbs down off soapbox.

[CrewF16]

As some of you have caught on I was indirectly implying that PMDG should move the DC-6 from an in-between project to a main project. Obviously an in-between project does not get done. I don't know about everyone else but whenever I put something on the back burner (especially at work) it just goes away.

 

 

Thanks,

Ron