What about skydemon or foreflight? Just a thought

 

 

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.  The big loss is that you can no longer edit flight plans by dragging waypoints on the map - a feature not supported by V3 (it uses OSM). 

Bruceb

 

I am not an expert in Plan G but I am using version 3.0.2.51 and I can indeed drag waypoints on the map and amend the flightplan.

I do confirm that you can drag around existing plan waypoints on the map and have the FP accordingly updated on latest v3 build.

 

I neither ever experienced crashes so not sure about the .net framework issue affecting the product itself, maybe just some installation environments?

I do confirm that you can drag around existing plan waypoints on the map and have the FP accordingly updated on latest v3 build.

 

 

 

What you can't do in V3 is click on a a flight leg ie between two way points and drag the leg and in the process create new waypoints eg fix1 fix2 fix3 etc etc,  This was extremely helpful for replicating RNP approaches and DME arcs.  It also helps with building up flight plans to fly through mountainous terrain eg in Papua New Guinea.  You can kinda do this with V3 - you can drag a waypoint but not the flight leg and new waypoints aren't inserted automatically - this  is so much more clumsy that it's not worth the bother.  A great great pity and an enormous loss that v2 is no more.

 

Bruceb

You are correct, that was a really convenient feature.

 

You can anyway achieve something similar, although with much less easyness.

 

If you first select a waypoint from the FP windows and then right click on the map, from the contextual menu you can choose to insert there a new waypoint before or after the one selected in the FP window.

I often have plan G and FSX running at the same time on my 27-inch monitor, and I can resize either window or temporarily go to full screen in FSX without any problems.

 

Another program that has a moving map and flight planning is FS Commander, and there is a free demo that has everything except that you can't save flight plans. I prefer Plan G for the moving map and FS Commander for flight planning, because it has SIDs, STARs and Transitions whereas Plan G does not.

 

Another good solution if you have an Ipad is a program like FSX Follow that gives you a moving map display on the Ipad showig the location of your plane (it connects to FSX).

 

Henri

Plan-G seems to be on the ropes!  The older Plan-G v2 which is far superior to v3 is no longer fully functional due, apparently, to changes in Google maps.  The big loss is that you can no longer edit flight plans by dragging waypoints on the map - a feature not supported by V3 (it uses OSM).  In addition it seems Plan-g v3 is having problems with NETframework 4.5.

 

So where do we go from here? Are there any other Flight planners (freeware or payware I don't care) that have the on map waypoint dragging feature that made Plan-G v2 so useful? I would be more than happy to pay for a planner that the features of a fully functional Plan-G v2.

 

Bruceb

I understand the point but I disagree because Plan-G is not on the ropes. Goole maps was just a tiny piece of functionality of the previous version; at least for what one uses plan G for : VFR planning and following-up on flight.

But don't get me wrong, I see what you mean but we all have to understand that big google does what they want because we use them too  much !.

I often have plan G and FSX running at the same time on my 27-inch monitor, and I can resize either window or temporarily go to full screen in FSX without any problems.

 

Another program that has a moving map and flight planning is FS Commander, and there is a free demo that has everything except that you can't save flight plans. I prefer Plan G for the moving map and FS Commander for flight planning, because it has SIDs, STARs and Transitions whereas Plan G does not.

 

Another good solution if you have an Ipad is a program like FSX Follow that gives you a moving map display on the Ipad showig the location of your plane (it connects to FSX).

 

Henri

I use 2 PC's on the home network to fly n FSX. On the 2nd screen of the primary (FSX) PC I run FSCommander (great!) and on the laptop I run Plan-G. So... I get best of both. 

In any case, Plan G is my VFR tool whilst FSCommander my IFR tool. yet I use them always together...

Goole maps was just a tiny piece of functionality of the previous version; at least for what one uses plan G for : VFR planning and following-up on flight

 

 

I beg to differ, for me Google maps support was the main reason I began using Plan-G and certainly not a tiny part of its functionality. OSM is a very inferior alternative (even if an open source one) with its complete absence of topographical details  as OrbX are finding out with their Vector product.  

 

Look I will say this, you can set up custom waypoints with V3  that assist with replicating RNP approaches etc rather more easily than I suggested in my earlier post in v3. However, the absence of contour lines makes custom flight plans through mountainous terrain much more hit or miss (so to speak) with Plan-G v3.

 

Bruceb

However, the absence of contour lines makes custom flight plans through mountainous terrain much more hit or miss (so to speak) with Plan-G v3.

 

Go to File->Options and under map provider select OpenCycle map.  Gorgeous contour lines.  If the occasional red lines marking cycle routes are far too bothersome, give up flight simming and take up a new hobby.

 

All the negativity and some apparent misinformation about v3 kept me from giving it a try.  But the last time I tried to use v2 I couldn't edit a route by dragging the inconveniently placed box.  That feature is useful occasionally, but the box was always somewhere off the screen when I wanted it.  I found that I could get the same functionality in v3 by selecting a node in the flight plan, then right clicking on the map, zoomed in as much as I wanted and had an option to insert the click spot as a new way point either before or after the selected node.

 

If you want to see the proper way of using line dragging to edit a route, check out skyvector.com.  If Plan-G v2 worked the same way, I'd be complaining about losing that functionality too.  EDIT:  Why can't I type in the url for that?  Line gets cut off.

 

Version 3 is a much superior product.  Perfect?  No.  Skyvector has it beat in many ways, but you can't export a .pln file from it.  But if you're routing through mountains, v3 with OperCycle maps is much superior.

 

Hook

Go to File->Options and under map provider select OpenCycle map.  Gorgeous contour lines.  If the occasional red lines marking cycle routes are far too bothersome, give up flight simming and take up a new hobby.

 

 

 

OK point taken didn't realise there were other mapping options - but I never had any difficulty with the route dragging feature of v2, always worked a treat until Google  stopped supporting it.  But it is time to move on really no other viable option than Plan-G v3.  

 

Bruceb

I have been running Plan G since it's introduction.

Now I have a problem with net framework 4.5.

As soon as I install it I cannot run any versions of Plan G.

It starts but immediately I get the message that Plan G has stopped working.

Most versions of Plan-G now require UIAutomationCore.dll to be reinstalled on your system.  As you might have done/recalled, many users disabled this because it can cause fsx to freeze during flights.  There are posts related to this dll that link to working versions that will not freeze fsx, yet will allow Plan-G and other apps that require it to run without errors on startup.