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Dreamliner Oops! No screens!

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Technology ahead of its time. This has happened many times with military aircraft but it does not get the attention that a civilian aircraft does.IMO Boeing should have done a lot more testing before release, especially considering all the different resources they used to complete the aircraft. Question is was this outsourcing done to save money, time, or because there were certain areas Boeing just could not handle. If the 787 survives this teething period it will be a groundbreaking aircraft. Otherwise the 777X will take it's place and it will become a great spot in history!!!

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Ron

Thanks, Ron Fields

 

 

He said the problem was "not serious" and denied local media reports that all three of the plane's navigation computers, which allow the plane to fly long distances on autopilot, had failed.

 

Yawn...  The NAV database on the FMC's apparently failed, no different to what happened with the 77 and was fixed.

 

Still on your vendetta Daniel?  As to your post title...drama queen much???  I had to dislike this post based on your "reporter" style negative headline posting... I come to Avsim for knowledgeable discussion not the same drama I get from uninformed reporters.. 

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-Paul Solk

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A far less dramatic report on the incident.  No Screens?  

From Bloomberg:

 

Air India diverted a Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner (BA) to Kuala Lumpur as a precaution after the plane developed a software fault yesterday on a flight to New Delhi from Melbourne.

Boeing dispatched a team from Hong Kong to inspect the plane, G.P. Rao, an airline spokesman, said by telephone. The malfunction may have been the result of a software upgrade, Rao said. Press Trust of India reported that the jet carried 215 people.

“We are aware of the in-service incident and working with Air India to provide support,” Kate Bergman, a spokeswoman for Chicago-based Boeing, said by e-mail without giving details.

 

From Wall Street Journal

 

"Whenever you get a signal for a defect, you try to land at the closest airport," an Air India spokesman said Thursday. Teams from the airline and Boeing were working to resolve the problem, he said.

The airline said Boeing recently upgraded computer software in the airline's fleet of 12 Dreamliners. "They are close to rectifying the problem and the aircraft should be able to take off soon," the Air India spokesman said.

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-Paul Solk

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Sounds like someone hasn't run the installer as administrator

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Sounds like someone hasn't run the installer as administrator

Nah, they installed the 32 bit version and got an OOM because they were using an add-on airport...  ^_^

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-Paul Solk

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Then don't fly it...  Again, some perspective because apparently over 13 million people to date have had no issues getting on a 787...

 

  • As of February 5, 2014
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  • 16 Airline Customers
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  • 121 Airplanes Delivered
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  • 69,346 Flights
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  • 13,002,375 Estimated Passengers Flown
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  • 119,149,003 Miles Flown

 

The Dreamliner's reliability rate is now around 98 per cent, meaning two out of every 100 flights are delayed for mechanical problems - up from 97 per cent in October but still short of the firm's target, said Mike Fleming, vice president for 787 support and services.

 

 

"I'll tell you that's not where we want the airplane to be, we're not satisfied with that reliability level of the airplane," Fleming said.

"The 777 today flies at 99.4 per cent ... and that's the benchmark that the 787 needs to attain.

"We introduced the 777 in 1995 and it was in the 1999 timeframe that we saw sustained performance over 99 per cent in that fleet ... to get the fleet above 99 per cent you have to keep working every day, so my guess is that it will be similar to what we had with the 777," he added.

 

 

Earlier this month, a Japan Airlines maintenance crew noticed white smoke coming from the main battery of a Dreamliner, with a cell found to be showing signs of melting just two hours before the plane was due to fly.

"We recently had a single-cell failure in a battery on another customer's airplane and we didn't get propagation of that to other cells, other cells continued to function," Fleming said. "The containment box worked as supposed to and the vapour vented overboard as supposed to."

Fleming said the battery has not suffered an in-flight failure since the redesign and Boeing could still change the battery's design based on the conclusions of the investigation into the latest incident.

"We didn't assume we would never have another cell failure. We always assume we're going to have a failure and we design the airplane with a redundancy," Fleming said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/boeing-admits-dreamliner-performance-not-satisfactory-20140127-31hzx.html#ixzz2t78VbiWT

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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I already made that decision not to fly it until the batteries and issues which are fireproneare dealt with.

 

And while the 777 comments are true there were no life threatening fire initiators in the design of the 777 unlike the 787.

 

That is all.

Yes, we know you have made your decision and you have subsequently spread propaganda trying to maximize every single incident like a tabloid reporter...

Look no further than the title of this thread to see the misinformation you are spreading.

Total tabloid reporting.

That is all

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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I already made that decision not to fly it until the batteries and issues which are fireproneare dealt with.

 

And while the 777 comments are true there were no life threatening fire initiators in the design of the 777 unlike the 787.

 

That is all.

No, but they have lost both engines at once and fallen out of the sky. Every plane design has its own set of life threatening initiators.

Ahhhh just like old times....

 

 

Amazing that even the airlines who are having teething issues are still placing additional orders and acknowledging that when they aren't having issues the aircraft is exceeding their expectations.  I think that says a tremendous amount about the airlines confidence in the 787 and Boeing's ability to get it right.   Boeing just needs to work through the bugs (as they did with the 777) and the 787 will be a winner.  Unfortunately there are some people who want to use every single incident to make out like the sky is falling on the entire 787 program and just holding their breath waiting and hoping for it to fail so they can say I told you so.

 

http://media.norwegian.com/en/#/pressreleases/norwegian-acquires-four-new-787-9-dreamliners-960737

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-Paul Solk

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Posted in http://avherald.com/h?article=46f971be&opt=0

 

on Friday, Feb 7th 2014 17:15Z:
 

"FMC Failure on B787
Loss LNav / VNAv , CDU Blanks
On the ND the magenta line and all the way points are removed
Autopilot stays on
Autothrust stays in speed mode
Weather radar stays on
Electronic checklist directs you to use back Nav via the TCP
Your decision to divert or continue " Negative RNP""

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