April 13, 201412 yr I went ahead and bought 2.2 last night, and even without any addons installed it is pretty awesome! However, in some VCs (like in Carenado/Alabeo aircraft) there are lots of shimmers and jaggies on the gauges... I can force SGSSAA throught NI but the performance impact is pretty major, especially on my 660 Ti. Is everyone just using the built in multisampling?
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April 13, 201412 yr I don't use inspector in V2.2, I tried SGSS but it's very heavy on the FPS. In app settings are fine with great performance.
April 13, 201412 yr Author Hmmm, well everything is pretty awesome except for the gauges in some of the more detailed aircraft... :( 4x MSAA still produces lots of shimmering and it is rather distracting.
April 13, 201412 yr Hmmm, well everything is pretty awesome except for the gauges in some of the more detailed aircraft... :( 4x MSAA still produces lots of shimmering and it is rather distracting. Exactly why I'm using NI. Can't tolerate the shimmering VC gauge textures and I dont see much different in performance, at least for the gains in quality.
April 13, 201412 yr Author Exactly why I'm using NI. Can't tolerate the shimmering VC gauge textures and I dont see much different in performance, at least for the gains in quality. Are you using Supersampling transparency or Sparse Grid Supersampling?
April 14, 201412 yr I saw big performance improvements after I dropped my Inspector profile and just went with in-game settings. I can live with some gauge and runway-line shimmering. The only thing that's really bothering me at the moment is the FTX Global lights - in the distance, as they fade in, they're a shimmery mess and it's really a distraction. So I've just begun to experiment with going back to NI for supersampling (or SGSS if it comes to it). No results to report yet. I'd be interested to hear if others have dealt with this particular issue, and if so, how. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
April 14, 201412 yr Hmmm, well everything is pretty awesome except for the gauges in some of the more detailed aircraft... :( 4x MSAA still produces lots of shimmering and it is rather distracting. Having "Mipmap VC panels" on can cut the VC shimmers sometimes. gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
April 14, 201412 yr I'm using NI just to force 4xSGSS. Without it the ORBX night lights in the distance are a shimmering mess. I haven't noticed much of a performance hit because I seem to have plenty of head room on my 680 GTX. The only time it gets close to 100% usage is when I'm not CPU bound and the frame rates are good. When the frame rates are lower, I'm CPU bound and GPU usage is only at 50% so the extra AA doesn't have much of an impact.....
April 14, 201412 yr Author Using the built in 2x multisampling and the 2x SGSSAA seems to still yield good results without destroying performance too badly. I was getting around 20-25 frames at FSDT KJFK with overcast conditions in the Qualitywings 757. Speaking of which, the QW 757's gauges are still pretty legible even without the SGSSAA. I don't know what it is about the Carenado cockpits, but they seem to shimmer more than any addon I have used...
April 14, 201412 yr Author I'm using NI just to force 4xSGSS. Without it the ORBX night lights in the distance are a shimmering mess. I haven't noticed much of a performance hit because I seem to have plenty of head room on my 680 GTX. The only time it gets close to 100% usage is when I'm not CPU bound and the frame rates are good. When the frame rates are lower, I'm CPU bound and GPU usage is only at 50% so the extra AA doesn't have much of an impact..... I apologize for the double post, but wow, I certainly know what you mean. I finished downloading my copy of the triple installer for ORBX PNW from the FlightSimStore, and yes the shimmering on the 3D lighting is FAR more annoying than the cockpits... I am thinking it might just be best to save up for a GTX 880 whenever it is released, or maybe wait for better SLI support and get dual graphics cards. I was hoping just the built in anti aliasing would look better, given that is what the majority of 2.2 adopters seem to be using.
April 14, 201412 yr Yeah I'm not shelling out $700 to get the very next generation and an extra 2 FPS. I'll wait for the 880... My 680 seems to be doing pretty well with P3D v2 and overall I'm quite pleased with the performance. I have the graphics turned up pretty heavy with tons of AI traffic and I'm still getting good results.
April 14, 201412 yr I recently moved from a GTX 680 to a 780ti. It didn't help at all with AA (didn't expect it to) but it performs better in many other respects - it chews through clouds and volumetric fog, and it's much better on shadows, though you still have to be selective. Glad to hear I'm not the only one struggling with the shimmering ORBX lights. I'll try one of the SGSS settings in NI and see if that helps. UPDATE: Setting 4xSGSS in NI (with no other changes from the global default profile) helped tame the FTX Global light shimmers, but at quite a performance cost. Tomorrow I'll backtrack to 2X SGSS and see if that might be the answer. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
April 14, 201412 yr I saw big performance improvements after I dropped my Inspector profile and just went with in-game settings. I can live with some gauge and runway-line shimmering. The only thing that's really bothering me at the moment is the FTX Global lights - in the distance, as they fade in, they're a shimmery mess and it's really a distraction. So I've just begun to experiment with going back to NI for supersampling (or SGSS if it comes to it). No results to report yet. I'd be interested to hear if others have dealt with this particular issue, and if so, how. No problems here with FTX Global lights, a bit shimmery but only in the far distance. I tested with SGSS 4x and my frames dropped from +/-38 to 25/28 FPS with ORBX PNW in the A2A Cessna. Without an Inspector profile I get a stable 38/40 FPS in the same situation but a little shimmering. I can't find a big difference between 2x and 4x SGSS performance.
April 14, 201412 yr Moderator Have mine set to 4xsgssaa in NI and it smooth as silk and visually great. Occasionally get a jaggy runway line but majority of them are fine Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
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