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Hi guys i recently done a tutorial for the 737 NGX from KIAH to KLAX. When i arrived into KLAX my frames dropped to about 20, everywhere else is fine. just these built up major airports. dont know why this is happening as i have a new build and high end pc. specs are below let me know if you need anything else thanks alot.

 

 

 

 

 

Overclocked Intel® Core™i7-4770k Quad Core (3.50GHz @ max 

ASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
16GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB KIT)
3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 780 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

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Where are your scenery sliders? I have a similar setup, same card and quad core overclocked at 4.6. I average high teens on frames running scenery sliders pretty high at klax (fsdreamteam) with ultimate traffic sliders at 80%. I do run with Steves DX10 fixer so it is smooth even at 18 or 19 fps so I dont worry about it. If your config has tweaks, I would try running a clean cfg., the tweaks hurt me worse than help.

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I have only done a few tweaks kostas guide but without affinity mask and bufferpools?

 

LOD is large

Scenery complex is extreme dense

Auto dense is very dense

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It only drops when am in the 737 ngx VC

It goes from 24 to 30 as i have fsx frames set to 30?

Its my mouse thats causing it buddy just done a few tests?

Infact its still doing it when fly towards klax :(

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It only drops when am in the 737 ngx VC

It goes from 24 to 30 as i have fsx frames set to 30?

Its my mouse thats causing it buddy just done a few tests?

Infact its still doing it when fly towards klax :(

 

Set your FPS to unlimited. Also lower the autogen density and you will gain FPS. Also setting your water setting at mid 2.x will increase FPS. 

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Sounds about right with max autogen and an addon airport. You're flying a tubeliner at high altitude. You only need autogen 1. Did you have road traffic? Get rid of it. AI? Very minimum or it will effect FPS. FSX isn't like any other modern game that heavily leverages the gpu. Everything you see is running through the cpu and it's too much when you add all the extra calculations of a heavy aircraft like PMDG's. The mouse fps loss is a long time bug of FSX. No way around it unfortunately.

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Also I'm not sure what other add-ons you are running but what I found out from others was if you're running a PMDG plane, and a bunch of other add-ons you're going to see a FPS drop there is just no way to avoid it from what I can tell. 

 

At the gate using FS dreamteams KLAX I get around 25-28 FPS in the VC and 20-24 while taxiing around and during take-off/landing that might drop down to 18-20 FPS. I just accept that even with my PC I am gong to see a FPS drop but I would rather have all the add-ons running and take the FPS hit than stop using them or lowering the settings. 

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Set your FPS to unlimited. Also lower the autogen density and you will gain FPS. Also setting your water setting at mid 2.x will increase FPS. 

i got it set at 30 i followed kostas guide and also my water is at high x2 to stop the flashes?

Sounds about right with max autogen and an addon airport. You're flying a tubeliner at high altitude. You only need autogen 1. Did you have road traffic? Get rid of it. AI? Very minimum or it will effect FPS. FSX isn't like any other modern game that heavily leverages the gpu. Everything you see is running through the cpu and it's too much when you add all the extra calculations of a heavy aircraft like PMDG's. The mouse fps loss is a long time bug of FSX. No way around it unfortunately.

will i take down auto gen then? haven't got addon airport only REX 4D, ASN, FS2Crew. what setting is auto gen 1? road traffic is set to 0% 

Also I'm not sure what other add-ons you are running but what I found out from others was if you're running a PMDG plane, and a bunch of other add-ons you're going to see a FPS drop there is just no way to avoid it from what I can tell. 

 

At the gate using FS dreamteams KLAX I get around 25-28 FPS in the VC and 20-24 while taxiing around and during take-off/landing that might drop down to 18-20 FPS. I just accept that even with my PC I am gong to see a FPS drop but I would rather have all the add-ons running and take the FPS hit than stop using them or lowering the settings. 

PMDG is the only big addon i have and REX 4D buddy. your the same as me at busy airports.

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wow jusdt set it to unlimited guys what difference i'm seeing its soo smooth and frames are well up! how come in these guides its always set to 30?

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Because sometimes you'll introduce stutters with no fps cap.  

 

Anyway 20 fps is pretty good for your setup.  I assume you 4770 is not overclocked yet?  

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will i take down auto gen then? haven't got addon airport only REX 4D, ASN, FS2Crew. what setting is auto gen 1? road traffic is set to 0% 

 

I have my autogen set to normal and get what I posted above. I just notice a big FPS drop at like extremely dense autogen so I thought maybe you had it set that high. 

 

 

 


wow jusdt set it to unlimited guys what difference i'm seeing its soo smooth and frames are well up! how come in these guides its always set to 30?

 

Yea my computer does awful when I use a FPS limiter whether it be the FSX one or an external one. 

 

 

 


i got it set at 30 i followed kostas guide and also my water is at high x2 to stop the flashes?

 

If you're happy with the FPS you get with that then great. I have mine on 2.x mid and I see the occasional scenery flash but it really doesn't bother me and I still get what I would consider good FPS. I just know on high I have noticed quite a drop in FPS so I just decided to accept that there will be occasional scenery flashes for more FPS and smoothness. 

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Because sometimes you'll introduce stutters with no fps cap.  

 

Anyway 20 fps is pretty good for your setup.  I assume you 4770 is not overclocked yet?

 

It is over clocked buddy

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Hmmm in that case 20 is a but low - but depending on weather, AI traffic, complex addons etc I wouldn't expect anything above 30 (especially with locked fps).

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HT is on aswell

 

Have you changed your FSX config file yet? If you haven't you might be able to get more FPS if you add some changes.  

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Yeh done nickN guide and nvidia inspector! Frames are good just drop when at major airports like klax going to try other airports! But i do have smoothness even when frames are at 20-25

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Actually, I think the frames you are getting is about right for all the stuff you've loaded up.  The trashed frame rates even on a PC as powerful as yours prompted me to take a strong look at P3D v 2.2 and the other sim from Laminar.

 

The eye candy in FSX/P3D is to die for - and something I greatly miss in XPX.  Not to mention the PMDG NGX.

 

Still, when you pile all that stuff onto just ONE PC - no matter how powerful it is, you're asking a LOT. 

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Yeh done nickN guide and nvidia inspector! Frames are good just drop when at major airports like klax going to try other airports! But i do have smoothness even when frames are at 20-25

 

Yea at add-on airports you're going to see a drop in FPS. I don't think it matters how great a computer you have you're going to see FPS drop at big airports. As long as the sim is smooth then just forget about the FPS that is what I have read countless times on here. 

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FSX learned half loathes are better than no loafs.  FPS I want is smoothness as stutters are worse thing in a crosswind landing. 

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I set my fsx frames to 40 getting 25 - 30 now sometimes just over 30 and its smooth

 

My other problem is i have HT on will i disable this?

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Wow what a difference i turned off HT and put in affinity mask 14 and bufferpools = 0

 

Frames have gone up too :D

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I spent so much time tweaking FSX back in the day - I used to joke I spent more time trying to squeeze my fps than I did flying... then I realized it wasn't funny because it was the truth!  I had great hopes for P3D and think Lockheed has advanced the game considerably.  If they ever go 64-bits, they will have something truly amazing - and then if they enhance networking so i can run 3 monitors across 3 pcs... I will think I died and went to heaven.  Just now, P3D as it comes out of the box is grand.  A lot of the hang ons are not (yet) optimized for P3D, and thus you can STILL thrash your frames.  Many have written various tweaks for P3D... a road I strongly want to avoid.

 

The Brand-X sim does not require the config tweaks of any kind, and for _today_ meets my needs better than P3D.  That could easily change if P3D makes the 2 changes I mentioned.  I truly love the fact that P3D supports DX11 and SLI.  And best of all, P3D is still under development...  once the 3PDs start optimizing for it... (think Orbx/FSDreamteam/Flightbeam Studios/Rex/PMDG) I think P3D could prove to be the 300-lb gorilla.

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