What is with this?  It's bad in XP - in FSX it's actually better.

 

I'm less than 80 miles from BSR in norcal at 15,000 but I can't pick it up! GRRRRR!

 

Finally picked it up about 45 miles....  lame...

edit: Ahhh I see they probably modeled the theoretical service volume for a LOW VOR....  40 mi.  In real life though you'll pick these up a lot farther out in my experience.

 

What do you guys think?

FMC :lol:

The BSR VOR is in the APX15190.bgl and is programmed for 60 nm reception. It's at an elevation of 4,080 ft. Bob.

That's great and all but maybe they should have modeled this stuff on the longer side of reception.  Note the SID at KSFO - the EUGEN8 BSR transition.  It even says MRA 9000.... meaning if you get to 9000 you should be able to reach that navaid after ZUPAX.

 

Anyway so can I change this manually?

The BSR VOR is in the APX15190.bgl and is programmed for 60 nm reception. It's at an elevation of 4,080 ft. Bob.

 

What is a "APX15190.bgl" ?

 

I did not pick up the vortac till I was 45nm away on v27. The changeover point on V27 is Eugen intersection and thats 67nm away from BSR vortac. So I think vortac is programed wrong.

 

Is there a way to file a vor bug report ?

See this sort of stuff is quite frustrating to me for two major reasons:

 

I fly online and with realistic routing (typically IFR).  In my case tonight on Pilot Edge I just asked for radar vector until I could pick up the navaid.

 

XP10 (ok until very recently with the new GPS) is basically a /A sim - meaning unless you have a navigraph plane you're screwed navigating direct.

What is a "APX15190.bgl" ?

 

I did not pick up the vortac till I was 45nm away on v27. The changeover point on V27 is Eugen intersection and thats 67nm away from BSR vortac. So I think vortac is programed wrong.

 

Is there a way to file a vor bug report ?

APX15190.bgl is the file in FSX in the Scenery folder that sets the properties of the BSR VOR. Bob.

See this sort of stuff is quite frustrating to me for two major reasons:

 

I fly online and with realistic routing (typically IFR).  In my case tonight on Pilot Edge I just asked for radar vector until I could pick up the navaid.

 

XP10 (ok until very recently with the new GPS) is basically a /A sim - meaning unless you have a navigraph plane you're screwed navigating direct.

I am not an IFR pilot so maybe somebody else can chime in !

 

Terminal (T)          25NM   1000-1200

Low Altitude (L)    40NM    1000-1800

High Altitude (H)   40NM    1000-14500

                            100NM   14,500-60,000  

                            130NM   18,000-45,000

Not sure what you mean by A-sim ?

No worries.  When pilots file IFR flight plans they enter an equipment suffix that describes to air traffic what navigation equipment they have onboard.  /A  (on the flight plan they'd show up as N12345 and C172/A etc).

 

/A is basically a transponder with DME (distance measuring equipment - gets you distance from a VOR).  It usually means you're only be navigating with a VOR (typically two VOR instruments in the plane).

 

I call XP10 a /A sim because other than the terrible stock FMS (which can only do direct to a point) there's no great way to navigate via GPS.  However this may have changed with the new GPS (that I still can't figure out how to pull up).  You also can't do RNAV (GPS) approaches (again maybe you can now).

 

When flying online ATC would have to vector me onto an airway or radial - I'm unable to go direct to a GPS waypoint or an intersection defined by two crossing VOR radials.

APX15190.bgl is the file in FSX in the Scenery folder that sets the properties of the BSR VOR. Bob.

 

What does FSX have to do with xplane VOR ?

No worries.  When pilots file IFR flight plans they enter an equipment suffix that describes to air traffic what navigation equipment they have onboard.  /A  (on the flight plan they'd show up as N12345 and C172/A etc).

 

/A is basically a transponder with DME (distance measuring equipment - gets you distance from a VOR).  It usually means you're only be navigating with a VOR (typically two VOR instruments in the plane).

 

I call XP10 a /A sim because other than the terrible stock FMS (which can only do direct to a point) there's no great way to navigate via GPS.  However this may have changed with the new GPS (that I still can't figure out how to pull up).  You also can't do RNAV (GPS) approaches (again maybe you can now).

 

When flying online ATC would have to vector me onto an airway or radial - I'm unable to go direct to a GPS waypoint or an intersection defined by two crossing VOR radials.

The default C-172 has two VOR receivers that you could use to identify a intersection?

 

Good stuff ! I need to start working on IFR rating ! Any reading recommendations ?

What does FSX have to do with xplane VOR ?

OOPS Sorry! I missed, with my old eyes, that he was using XPlane . My mistake. Bob.

You can edit VORs on the local map view in X-Plane. There is an edit option where you can change properties, e.g. frequencies for navaids.

 

You can also open up the earth_nav.dat file in resources/default data/ (but don't have computer with X-Plane at hand to check the exact path). If you open with a text editor and search for the VOR, you can edit the column which defines its range, normally its set to something like 50,75,100 etc.

You can edit VORs on the local map view in X-Plane. There is an edit option where you can change properties, e.g. frequencies for navaids.

 

You can also open up the earth_nav.dat file in resources/default data/ (but don't have computer with X-Plane at hand to check the exact path). If you open with a text editor and search for the VOR, you can edit the column which defines its range, normally its set to something like 50,75,100 etc.

Just be aware that if you do this it will be overwritten by standard nav data the next time you update X-Plane.

 

Jim

Alright thanks