I was wondering if PMDG has or would consider making a co-pilot app which would allow co-pilot operations to connect to each other. I think it would be awesome. What you guys think?

 

 

As someone already did not understand what i was asking, i will add this "The overwhelming majority of high-end 3rd party add-on aircraft utilize custom code and variables not accessible via published FSUIPC offsets or the Microsoft MSFS SDKs (fs2crew site)."

 

A PMDG specific program would be nice. let me know if further specification is needed.

 

 

What you guys think?

 

Automation by software?  FS2Crew.

 

Two humans interacting?  This has been discussed at length many times and is under investigation by the team.

Automation by software?  FS2Crew.

 

Two humans interacting?  This has been discussed at length many times and is under investigation by the team.

No way, why dint i think of that?? a simple Google search could have told me that. I was thinking i could get something better quality. Like the CS777 for example, no thank you... some things are better PMDG. Now, if it has been discussed before you got a link? i didn't see anything.

 

 

Now, if it has been discussed before you got a link? i didn't see anything.

Well, if you want to read about it, it's your onus to find it, not his.

 

(Seriously though, I'd try to find it for you but avsim is just so slow to respond right now...)

i did search but nothing came up about what i wanted to ask/know specifically.

No way, why dint i think of that?? a simple Google search could have told me that. I was thinking i could get something better quality. Like the CS777 for example, no thank you... some things are better PMDG. Now, if it has been discussed before you got a link? i didn't see anything.

 

It could've.  Google Pro-Tip:

Begin searches with "site:[website ] [search terms]" (no quotes) to search within a site.

 

Example:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1LAVE_enUS396&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Aforum.avsim.net+PMDG+shared+cockpit

So what you are asking for is a co-pilot app that can work in the PMDG aircraft, controlling the aircraft via specific commands. Would you like to control this co-pilot with either buttons or voice. Maybe start off with a little menu bar where you could configure certain things the press a button called 'pre-flight'. Maybe then the co-pilot could start setting up the aircraft whilst you set up the FMC. Then perhaps you could have checklist which you interact with, where the co-pilot reads and you answer. You could then command him to do things like raise the flaps or change altitudes.

 

Maybe you could have one were you could set up your own flows to be done.

 

You have two options.... FS2CREW or MULTICREW EXPERIENCE. Both of which are easy to find details about on AVSIM forums or by searching Google. 

 

Maybe PMDG should build there own SDK so these programs can interact with the aircraft and read things like Vspeeds....... oh they have like the one available for the PMDG 737 NGX or the one now available for the PMDG 777 200/300.

i think it would be best if they do their own platform which is capable to work across all PMDG aircraft as it would ensure 100% compatibility.

 

Both options do not do what i want. FS2crew is only for the 737 as far as i can see, maybe i am wrong. i am wrong quite often.

Bryan from FS2Crew has stated multiple times that he needed the 777 SDK in order to finish FS2Crew for the 777.

So while it may not be available right now, it will be very soon.

It is also available for the PMDG MD11, PMDG 747, PMDG J41, Level D 767, Aerosoft Airbus Extended, Majestic Dash 8 plus many others.

 

MCE is one program that works on these plus Captain Sim, Feelthere, Quality Wings, Ifly and again others.

 

No, neither has been released to work on the 777 yet, but as the SDK has only just been released, I wouldn't have though so.

 

As I said, a simple search on AVSIM or Google would have found this information.

that's all great information, all not what i asked for at all. thanks thou for the replies. I was asking for a program specifically created by PMDG... While all these other programs might do what you guys say so or found on Google. i was simply inquiring if PMDG was looking into making their own. Please read and understand the question fully before replying

that's all great information, all not what i asked for at all. thanks thou for the replies. I was asking for a program specifically created by PMDG... While all these other programs might do what you guys say so or found on Google. i was simply inquiring if PMDG was looking into making their own. Please read and understand the question fully before replying

 

What would be the point of having a "universal" PMDG app when each aircraft is different anyway, hence they would all need to be customized, which is exactly what MCE and FS2Crew do...

the point is it would be tailored to PMDG. Why would PMDG make a 777 if there is Project Opensky and Captain Sim? Because they could and it improved the simming experience.

 

Thanks for your reply

I'm more interested in the "2 people using different computers on a network or virtual network flying the same actual aircraft".

 

Like the Leonardo MD80, and the (Still in development but the Beta Testers videos with multiple crew controlling the same aircraft) Majestic Q400 Pro which have this, a PMDG properly native linked cockpit would be AWESOME.

 

Every single parameter would have to be shared in near-real time. And I'm not sure the weather radar/Active Sky stuff could do that... (but even if it doesn't. who cares - the exact positions of rain might differ between the 2 computers, but everything else can be the same).

 

It'd be awesome to do a full Cross the Pond with 2 crew members flying the same aircraft (every FMC thing I do, populates the other guy's FMC too, even the route request/wx request functions, handflying & positioning of the other aircraft, etc).

 

FS2crew already exists, so I'm sure they will update the 777 stuff once they get the SDK.

 

Having multiple programs from different developments combining to make awesome happen is just part of what Flightsimmers do. My FSX, Orbx, FTX, Aerosoft, FSDT, GSX, GEX, ActiveSky Next, PMDG, FSWX, FSinn, FSUICP, simulator is already a patchwork of expensive third party products from several developers as it is.

the point is it would be tailored to PMDG. Why would PMDG make a 777 if there is Project Opensky and Captain Sim? Because they could and it improved the simming experience.

 

Thanks for your reply

 

But that's just it, they are tailored to the PMDG models, along with all the other models they're tailored for...

 

Wouldn't you rather PMDG make the aircraft and let others do these sort of things?

 

I just fail to see how it would be any different if PMDG made it? The other products that do the same thing are all high quality addons already tailored for the models they work with. Why would it matters who do it if the end result is the same?