Some vids Airbus fans will like, I shot these last Sunday evening at CYYZ RW 6L>>>http://www.virtual-speed.com/stiff/media/clips/afto6l.wmvAnd http://www.virtual-speed.com/stiff/media/clips/aclnd6l.wmvAnd (O.T.) for any Joe Walsh fans this video is for you>>>>http://www.virtual-speed.com/stiff/media/clips/bun.wmvXP Home SP2Asus P4P800-SE Intel 3.0GHZDDR 400 D/C 2x512MBLeadtek 6800GT 256MB (71.84)SB AudigyMSFF2 & X45 throttleSee you in the fence...CYYZ

Sorry Paul but they did not dump any fuel in that incident at all.It was caused by a fuel leak from one tank and when a fuel imbalance caution arose they transferred fuel from the good tank across.At no stage did they actually add the totals of the fuel tanks together to see what there real fuel state was and hence made a basic piloting error something which no amount of inbuilt safety can protect you from.Darren

Actually Rob you will find it was one of the Airbus test pilots doing the display and he actually turned to flight protections "off".This is what allowed the crash.Darren

http://www.airdisaster.com/investigations/af296/af296.shtml

The correct ISBN is 0813808545.You can get cheap AOMs from www.eflightmanuals.com as well...Andreas

Didn't know an Airbus can dump fuel?!Andreas

My poor attempt at humour i.e. the pilots kept pumping fuel accross to an emptying tank without figuring out why the tank was emptying. THe fact it was leaking and they kept topping it up until they ran out of fuel = pilots dumping fuel.http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

I need to read this one again I think.My memory of this was that yes, an accident happened during an airshow flown by an Airbus pilot (not airline). It wasn't a landing crash either, as the aircraft was doing a level fly past.Past the end of the runway is a forest/woodland and for some reason the pilot failed to take sufficient account of the tree height until top late. In applying power and pulling the nose up, the aircraft systems knew that a stall would occur, because the engines had yet to spool up, and therefore ignored the nose up command to prevent what would've been an inevitable stall.......the result being that the aircraft remained in level flight and flew into the trees.Whether this system is good or bad is probably not relevant in this case, as the alternative would've been for the nose to come up and the aircraft to subsequently stall into the forest.If I weren't so lazy, I'd have read up on the above Airbus/tree thing before posting. Sorry if my memory is wrong; it'd be nice if someone finds a link to a good account of the accident.I'll echo somebody else's comment on this thread, how nice it is to see an Airbus/Boeing thread full of polite discussion :-)http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

you serious bro :) ? - what do you think the crew of a fully laden A340 with an inflight emergency 10min after takeoff would do? - dump passengers to get below MLW? :-lol regards,MarkXPHomeSP2/FS9.1/3.2HT/1GIG/X700pro256

Sweet Airbus video shots! Cool dawg too.RH

Fair enough!!!Dazz

I think the vast majority of flight simmers are Boeing fans, but what about the scenario of you being a company president and/or the person responsible for ordering jets and ultimately making a profit for an airline? Do you go Airbus or Boeing? Airbuses tend to be less expensive from what I understand and cheaper to maintain with faster turn around times.RH

Whatever happened to good ol dr?

>For instance, you don't need to take care of your speed during>an approach on autopilot like on other aircraft: just set the>flaps accordingly, and the plane automatically reduces speed.>It even retracts flaps automatically after takeoff.Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is completely incorrect. There is no aircraft out there that I know of (milatary aircraft excluded) that 'take care of your speed during an approach..'. Sure, there is Autothrottle where you have to adjust the speed on the FCU (or MCP for Boeings), but there is no aircraft as far as I know that is capable of automatically reducing speed while on approach. Sure I've heard of VNAV, but that sets speed at a point, not taking into consideration the flap position. There is also no aircraft out there that can retract the flaps automatically. Thats what the PNF (Pilot-not-flying) is responsible for.

You are right. It would be extremely unsafe to give the aircraft control over the speed on such a dangerous phase of flight like approach. Where does the aircraft know at all which speed to hold? Ok, you have set the correct weights in the FMC and so on, but those are just theoretical data. There are windshears and other weather features which could easily get the plane out of control in case of a little bit wrong speed use. If there was such a secure system developed in the world for airplanes which could handle the most serious tasks of pilot not flying, then I guess there would be no actual need for a second pilot at all. VNAV is a rather automated function of autopilot which can change the speed as well, but the speed change is mostly used only during climb, cruise and descent phases and when there is no undercarriage deployed like flaps or gear. But who knows, maybe there will be one day an aircraft which is capable to automatically assist pilot with speed and flap changes during the approach ;)