November 19, 201411 yr So, one thing I've never really messed with in FS is contrails. I know there are some payware products out there for this, but, those aside, what can I do to make the contrails a bit better? I was able to find a freeware item to improve the look but I'm not 100% sure what changes I can make that will not only make the contrails actually appear when they should but also make them last an amount of time that is a bit more real. If anyone can help with this I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
November 20, 201411 yr There is a freeware program that will modify the aircraft.cfg files of your installed aircraft to include a new effects entry that lengthens and improves the look of contrails. I think it also allows you to set the temperature at which the trails will appear. I can't recall the name I'm sorry to say as I used it a long time ago and continue to use the modified files for my AI aircraft. But it worked well and if you do a search of the library you should find it. It is definitely worth doing IMO - I recently did a simulated interception using the radar in the CS F104 and once the radar helped me get the target at my 12 o'clock I was able to get a visual by following the contrail - it was pretty cool!
November 20, 201411 yr If memory serves, after installing a new low-cost video card with 1 GB of RAM, I got a dramatic improvement in how the contrails appeared. Also, adjusting the various "sliders" in the display settings made a difference (I used to have 2-D contrails).
November 20, 201411 yr A 2 second search of the word contrail in the library returned: AI Contrails http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=36934 Bug Fix http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=37019 3d Contrails .fx recommended by AI Contrails http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=64250 Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
November 20, 201411 yr Author I know about what's out there. The question was how to get them configured. Things like temperature need to be set and I don't know what they should be set to. Things like that.
November 20, 201411 yr There is a freeware program that will modify the aircraft.cfg files of your installed aircraft to include a new effects entry that lengthens and improves the look of contrails. I think it also allows you to set the temperature at which the trails will appear. I can't recall the name I'm sorry to say as I used it a long time ago and continue to use the modified files for my AI aircraft. But it worked well and if you do a search of the library you should find it. It is definitely worth doing IMO - I recently did a simulated interception using the radar in the CS F104 and once the radar helped me get the target at my 12 o'clock I was able to get a visual by following the contrail - it was pretty cool! Can anyone else shed some more light? I know about what's out there. The question was how to get them configured. Things like temperature need to be set and I don't know what they should be set to. Things like that. I must have missed that... Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
November 20, 201411 yr Jan Rosenberg (AI_fx.zip) suggests -27C. This, from the Readme: " In FS2004, I tested this effect in Florida. With default ground temp of 59 deg F, the contrails occurred anywhere from 24000 to 26000 ft with the "max" temp set to -27 deg C. By setting the "max" temp to this lower value I seem to get the high-altitude contrails more often with AI aircraft." Dorian
November 20, 201411 yr Author I must have missed that... Check out the initial post... ..."what changes I can make that will not only make the contrails actually appear when they should but also make them last an amount of time that is a bit more real." Jan Rosenberg (AI_fx.zip) suggests -27C. This, from the Readme: " In FS2004, I tested this effect in Florida. With default ground temp of 59 deg F, the contrails occurred anywhere from 24000 to 26000 ft with the "max" temp set to -27 deg C. By setting the "max" temp to this lower value I seem to get the high-altitude contrails more often with AI aircraft." Dorian That doesn't really make sense to me. He is saying the contrails appeared anywhere from 24-26000 with the temp set to -27. Then he says by setting it to this lower value he got contrails more often. If he is saying he is suggesting changing the max to -27, what is the default number?
November 20, 201411 yr We are not mind readers, we don't know what utilities you have, we don't know what you consider "more real", we don't know where and how you fly. Use the mentioned utilities and set things up the way YOU want to. There is no right way-wrong way, it's a hobby where you tinker, adjust, modify, fly and then start all over again.
November 20, 201411 yr Author We are not mind readers, we don't know what utilities you have, we don't know what you consider "more real", we don't know where and how you fly. Use the mentioned utilities and set things up the way YOU want to. There is no right way-wrong way, it's a hobby where you tinker, adjust, modify, fly and then start all over again. More real means they last as long as they should depending on the conditons, appearing when they should, etc. Things shouldn't have to be adjusted one way for conditions A and another way for conditions B. It's not like this stuff hasn't been discused before so I'm not sure why this thread has become what it has. All I was asking was for some common sense and a little help getting things configured to be slightly more realistic when it comes to contrails from those who have already gone through it. As stated initially, contrail "tinkering" is not something I have messed with in the past. As far as no right way-wrong way, I disagree. In my opinion, the right way is as realistic as possible given what there is to work with. The wrong way is tweaking things to be unrealistic on purpose. If I knew how to adjust things, regarding the topic at hand, to be the right way I wouldn't have needed to ask for help to begin with. It seems like the last couple of years asking for help in these forums has changed and I'm not sure why. Maybe I'm just getting old.
November 20, 201411 yr The free program "FlusiFix" amongst many other useful things allows modification to contrails.
November 20, 201411 yr More real means they last as long as they should depending on the conditons, appearing when they should, etc. Things shouldn't have to be adjusted one way for conditions A and another way for conditions B. Winter, Summer, Spring, or Fall? N Hemisphere or S Hemisphere? What weather input, because all of this depends on the air temperature? It's not like this stuff hasn't been discused before so I'm not sure why this thread has become what it has. So what past discussions did you read and what were the conclusions made? Maybe I'm just getting old. No, it's just our E.S.P. isn't what it once was!!
November 20, 201411 yr The general consensus is that -27C is default. Discussions on various fora (Google: FS9 default contrail max temp and you will get 14600 hits) suggest a range between -25C (a tad too warm for contrail formation) and -30C. Dorian
November 20, 201411 yr Author The general consensus is that -27C is default. Discussions on various fora (Google: FS9 default contrail max temp and you will get 14600 hits) suggest a range between -25C (a tad too warm for contrail formation) and -30C. Dorian Then I'm really confused. What is the info above saying that is supposed to be from some ReadMe document? And what do you mean by hits?
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