MD-11 appears to work in FSX-Steam Edition

[Orlaam]

Ok I finally took the MD out for a flight. I was on limited time and only skimmed the tutorial. I had forgotten a lot of material but whatever, it won't kill me if I mess up ;-)

 

On FSX Steam is appears to work fine. No waving or strange banking as mentioned above. I suspect you're missing something, either install related or operation-wise.

 

I muddled my way around the CDU and FCP a lot. Forgetting how to do certain things made for a messy flight. I think I messed up the preflight AP setup process because it wanted to stall. Once I got the AP to engage properly it was fine. No major issues. Again, poor planning and not studying the manual to relearn.

 

Then on descent I wasn't really prepared for the descent and should've just let the poor ATC within MSFS give me vectors. I tried to enter an approach which eventually worked but it was so late being programmed properly that I overflew a waypoint too high and had to double back in sort of a pseudohold to make the path. Overall my mistakes aside, the MD functioned fine. Followed the flight plan fine and everything appeared to work great.

 

I'll dive deeper and reread the documents (9 years away is too long lol) and see, but you guys having problems in Steam must have an install issue. I installed into a clean FSX steam path, no prior FSX install and put all the simconnects in. No errors even with the load manager. All PMDG paints installed fine too.

[riccardo74]

Confirm, on a clean steam installation it works very very fine!

[Orlaam]

The only major issue I had, despite forgetting how to work it properly (operator error lol) was trying to maneuver the mouse over the dials. It is very difficult to find that exact point to dial right, left, or push and pull. I kinda think that's related to my zoom factor but if I zoom any closer I'll never be able to read my instruments. So I might need to recreate my EZDOCK cameras to include a close FCP camera for this.

 

IOW, my zoom is at 0.50 but I can't go any farther back in the seat I don't think. I can try to readjust next time the seat view but I believe I'll be in the headrest. At 0.50 I can see the EFIS and MAP so I can actually fly.

[scandinavian13]

IOW, my zoom is at 0.50 but I can't go any farther back in the seat I don't think. I can try to readjust next time the seat view but I believe I'll be in the headrest. At 0.50 I can see the EFIS and MAP so I can actually fly.

 

If you need a zoom level of 0.50, then you're probably not setting your sim up properly. If you have widescreen monitors, make sure you set your WIDEVIEWASPECT line in your FSX.cfg to TRUE. Apart from that, use the mouse plus the spacebar to look around. The minimum I ever use is 0.7, but I'm usually at 0.8 or 0.9.

[vc10man]

After watching a recently-delivered ITVV Martinair MD-11 video, I hankered to fly the MD-11 again as I flew it extensively in FSX.

 

I only have the FSX PMDG MD-11 boxed version. I have removed FSX entirely, as I only use P3D v2. When I re-installed Steam, and then tried to install the MD-11, it kep asking for a later version of FSX, and the installation would not complete. Having read in this thread that others  have managed to get the MD-11 working in Steame, can anyone advise on how to get the MD-11 installed into Steam without having FSX pre-installed?

 

Thanks.

[scandinavian13]

I only have the FSX PMDG MD-11 boxed version. I have removed FSX entirely, as I only use P3D v2. When I re-installed Steam, and then tried to install the MD-11, it kep asking for a later version of FSX, and the installation would not complete. Having read in this thread that others  have managed to get the MD-11 working in Steame, can anyone advise on how to get the MD-11 installed into Steam without having FSX pre-installed?

 

Did you ever have FSX and FSX:SE installed at the same time?

[Orlaam]

If you need a zoom level of 0.50, then you're probably not setting your sim up properly. If you have widescreen monitors, make sure you set your WIDEVIEWASPECT line in your FSX.cfg to TRUE. Apart from that, use the mouse plus the spacebar to look around. The minimum I ever use is 0.7, but I'm usually at 0.8 or 0.9.

Well in the RealAir Duke I can set the zoom to 0.70 and it's fine. Can see enough of the instruments (speed, attitude, even GTN750 and AP) to fly it fine. Looks realistic per the seat placement.

 

However in the PMDG 737 NGX and MD11 I find that 0.70 puts me right into the glareshield. I can't see any instrumentation at all. Kinda hard to fly without any speed, FD, or other important things.

 

I am using the seat back position until I'm practically in the headrest too. I don't think I can arrow back any farther. I guess next time I'll load them up and try to readjust the view. I do use mouse look but I need to see the instruments and out the window to fly not one or the other. ;-)

 

My monitor is a 27" 1920x1080 (not widescreen) display. I'm using EZDOCK only. Don't want TrackIR at this point. I'll play around with the views again but I swear I set it up good. :-/

After watching a recently-delivered ITVV Martinair MD-11 video, I hankered to fly the MD-11 again as I flew it extensively in FSX.

 

I only have the FSX PMDG MD-11 boxed version. I have removed FSX entirely, as I only use P3D v2. When I re-installed Steam, and then tried to install the MD-11, it kep asking for a later version of FSX, and the installation would not complete. Having read in this thread that others have managed to get the MD-11 working in Steame, can anyone advise on how to get the MD-11 installed into Steam without having FSX pre-installed?

 

Thanks.

I believe the fact that you had FSX boxed version installed is the reason it's acting up. It seems that certain registry keys and folders are left behind that really mess up steam installs. I can say for sure that I installed on a clean SSD/Windows 7 file system and the plane is working fine.

[scandinavian13]

However in the PMDG 737 NGX and MD11 I find that 0.70 puts me right into the glareshield. I can't see any instrumentation at all. Kinda hard to fly without any speed, FD, or other important things.

 

Then you need to set your WideViewAspect to true, for sure.

 

My monitor is a 27" 1920x1080 (not widescreen) display. I'm using EZDOCK only. Don't want TrackIR at this point. I'll play around with the views again but I swear I set it up good. :-/

 

1920x1080 is most assuredly widescreen. That's a 16:9 format. "Not widescreen" is 4:3. Think 1990s monitor:

 

 

Have a look here:

[vc10man]

Did you ever have FSX and FSX:SE installed at the same time?

Yes, Kyle, I did once upon a time a year ago, before making the complete move to P3D v2.

Well in the RealAir Duke I can set the zoom to 0.70 and it's fine. Can see enough of the instruments (speed, attitude, even GTN750 and AP) to fly it fine. Looks realistic per the seat placement.

 

However in the PMDG 737 NGX and MD11 I find that 0.70 puts me right into the glareshield. I can't see any instrumentation at all. Kinda hard to fly without any speed, FD, or other important things.

 

I am using the seat back position until I'm practically in the headrest too. I don't think I can arrow back any farther. I guess next time I'll load them up and try to readjust the view. I do use mouse look but I need to see the instruments and out the window to fly not one or the other. ;-)

 

My monitor is a 27" 1920x1080 (not widescreen) display. I'm using EZDOCK only. Don't want TrackIR at this point. I'll play around with the views again but I swear I set it up good. :-/

 

I believe the fact that you had FSX boxed version installed is the reason it's acting up. It seems that certain registry keys and folders are left behind that really mess up steam installs. I can say for sure that I installed on a clean SSD/Windows 7 file system and the plane is working fine.

Thanks for that heads-up, Chris. You could well be on the right track re:Registry keys being left behind, but I used a little utility called IOBit Uninstaller and I thought that would have cleaned the Registry of left-overs.

 

As I am awaiting delivery of a Sandisk 960Gb SSD, I may wait until I do a complete Win7 or Win10 clean install and likewise with the sims(FSX,Steam,P3D) and 100s of add-ons, but am not really looking forward to having to do that.

[Orlaam]

Then you need to set your WideViewAspect to true, for sure.

 

 

1920x1080 is most assuredly widescreen. That's a 16:9 format. "Not widescreen" is 4:3. Think 1990s monitor:

Well I feel stupid hahaha. I thought widescreen was only for those weird 1440 screens. Wow. I'm glad you told me. Thanks a million. :-D

[scandinavian13]

As I am awaiting delivery of a Sandisk 960Gb SSD, I may wait until I do a complete Win7 or Win10 clean install and likewise with the sims(FSX,Steam,P3D) and 100s of add-ons, but am not really looking forward to having to do that.

 

My reg got all kinds of messed up on my last computer, so uninstalled both sims, installed the boxed copy first, and then FSX:SE. Note: I only did this because I like to test our stuff on both platforms to be absolutely sure, not that it's necessary. I don't understand why people maintain copies of both on their machines (though I do understand why someone wouldn't immediately get rid of FSX boxed before installing FSX:SE on their system to test it).

 

Uninstall FSX:SE. Use something like CCleaner to clean the registry. A simple, default pass is just fine - no need to go into advanced settings and start messing around in the registry, which could cause bigger issues.

 

Once that's done, install only FSX:SE, which should then install as if it were FSX (its CFG file will be called FSX.cfg; otherwise, it'll call itself FSX-SE.cfg).

 

Note: if you have our NGX and 777, you do NOT need to return the license for this process.

Well I feel stupid hahaha. I thought widescreen was only for those weird 1440 screens. Wow. I'm glad you told me. Thanks a million. :-D

 

Figured you were getting confused with those. No worries. Just have to remember FSX came out when it did...haha. It's actually pretty ancient as far as software goes...

[vc10man]

My reg got all kinds of messed up on my last computer, so uninstalled both sims, installed the boxed copy first, and then FSX:SE. Note: I only did this because I like to test our stuff on both platforms to be absolutely sure, not that it's necessary. I don't understand why people maintain copies of both on their machines (though I do understand why someone wouldn't immediately get rid of FSX boxed before installing FSX:SE on their system to test it).

 

Uninstall FSX:SE. Use something like CCleaner to clean the registry. A simple, default pass is just fine - no need to go into advanced settings and start messing around in the registry, which could cause bigger issues.

 

Once that's done, install only FSX:SE, which should then install as if it were FSX (its CFG file will be called FSX.cfg; otherwise, it'll call itself FSX-SE.cfg).

 

Note: if you have our NGX and 777, you do NOT need to return the license for this process.

 

Figured you were getting confused with those. No worries. Just have to remember FSX came out when it did...haha. It's actually pretty ancient as far as software goes...

Thanks for that, Kyle. I do indeed have the complete variants of the NGX and 777 for both FSX and P3D. And I do regularly use CCleaner to clean up the Registry.

 

Pity a couple of years ago larger size SSDs did not exist, or at least not at the price level I obtianed the 960Gb for.

[scandinavian13]

Thanks for that, Kyle. I do indeed have the complete variants of the NGX and 777 for both FSX and P3D. And I do regularly use CCleaner to clean up the Registry.

 

Pity a couple of years ago larger size SSDs did not exist, or at least not at the price level I obtianed the 960Gb for.

 

You're welcome. CCleaner will only work in this case when both sims are uninstalled (so that it sees the pointers to uninstalled software - that way it'll remove all of them so that FSX:SE can install as if it were FSX, which older software requires).

 

Yeah, I'm lucky in that I bought all of my components for my new rig within the past month, and SSDs have come down a lot. The whole machine is SSDs. I booted my 2009 HP dv7 yesterday and nearly fell asleep with how slow it boots in comparison.

[Orlaam]

Sorry to resurrect a somewhat old thread, but I've noticed when flying this in SE, pretty much every time I approach a fix, even if I have to do a left turn after the fix, the aircraft banks right about 10 or so degrees, and then left again. I don't remember this ever happening previously.

 

There have been quite a few other issues as well. I just ended up uninstalling it, unfortunately.

 

 

It's working great on my stand-alone FSX Steam install.  That tracking issue you mention is due to a strange registry error that occurs sometimes.  The free Flight One Registry Repair tool will fix the FS9, FSX and FSX Steam path.  SImple as pie and it works to correct that zig-zagging you were seeing

[metalmike]

It's working great on my stand-alone FSX Steam install.  That tracking issue you mention is due to a strange registry error that occurs sometimes.  The free Flight One Registry Repair tool will fix the FS9, FSX and FSX Steam path.  SImple as pie and it works to correct that zig-zagging you were seeing

Thanks, I will give it another shot again soon. I am wondering though, I don't think this is a registry issue, because I am also using a standalone SE. I did a clean install of Windows 10 about a month ago, so there are no traces of old boxed FSX. So why would that affect the zig-zagging problem?