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Check out this picture: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/570962/M/Obviously this "pilot" can't ruin his pride (or atleast whats left of it) to do a go around but is more satisfied with risking his life, the instructors life, and potentially other peoples lives...It's not that hard to apply a but more thottle... I hope that student gets a long lesson on landings...Thoughts?Jason :-wave

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Looks like my landings in FS! Hehe just kidding. If I was that instructor I would have taken the controls over....

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Yeah but he threaded the lights really well!

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I have done this before while practicing for my Commercial check ride. (real life) I even scraped the tail tie down ring a bit. About that time I read in an Air Force safety message (I worked in a AF Comm center) about a T-38 student that took out several approach lights and dinged up the AB nozzles on the T-38. Yes we can say it might have been a thing about pride, that you could do a good power off 180 landing. I would say it taught even a better lesson in what "Not" to do in the future. Besides, part of the learning process is failing sometimes.Terry

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Well, the first thing that I can see is that the camera taking the photo is a few feet higher than the landing aircraft. I think the aircraft is a little higher than it looks, although yes, a bit low. It looks like someone is practicing short field landings or someone really experienced is practacing spot landings. Our downtown airport has been known to let people paint white (lets say objects-not x's) for CAP cessnas to have spot landing competitions.Or he could of course just be really really low and slow...LOL

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Practicing for St. Maarten? :)

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Jason,We were all inexperienced once, whether it be driving cars or flying planes. Your comments are rather TOO critical, if you ask me :-)Chris Low.

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I find my comments to not be that critical... telling someone they should apply throttle or made a go around isn't horrible, now is it? Maybe saying about his pride may be a bit "critical" but if thats the issue, that he doesn't want to go around, he should have a high degree of supervision.I'm aware we all we're inexperienced once, but I'm basing this post on THAT picture I linked to, not flying skills in general. You must be able to agree that he could have had better judgement.Jason

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I'm just wondering what makes you so certain that the pilot wasn't doing a short field or spot landing on purpose?

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The Comment: TOO LOW!! Another student trying to kill his instructor? I thought this guy's goose was cooked! Ended up just getting his mains on the pavement but it was close as you can see!;) I think the photographer would have noted otherwise.

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I see that you're a student pilot flying 152s. Congratulations on entering the world of aviation. Once inside, one thing which you may begin to notice is how very little the average layperson, media person or politician understands aviation. Once you learn more about flying, you'll start to realize that the perceptions the laypeople have of pilots, planes, and most things aviation, are usually wrong, exaggerated or incomplete....By the way, have you started on your short field landings yet?

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>I see that you're a student pilot flying 152s. Congratulations on entering the world of aviation.Thank you, though I'm not particulary new...>Once inside, one thing which you may begin to notice is how very little the average layperson, media person or politician understands aviation. Noticed it several years ago when a local mayor decided to close my home airport.>Once you learn more about flying, you'll start to realize that the perceptions the laypeople have of pilots, planes, and most things aviation, are usually wrong, exaggerated or incomplete....Once you learn more about me, you would know I know just about eveything there is to know for your PPL-ASEL.>By the way, have you started on your short field landings yet?Many, many moons ago.If you look at this photographers 729 other photos, he seems to have a fairly thorough background in the field of aviation. I think he would know the difference between a short field landing and one thats just going to be...not so good.-Jason

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Good, then you would probably understand that next time when you go do a BFR or go out and brush up on your skills, your instructor tasks you with a short field landing and you spot the grassy point short of the runway perfectly, fly your approach right on the money at 54kias, chop the power at fifty feet and plunk it perfectly down just a few feet inside the threshold, you would have every reason to walk away pretty happy. Until you get home and go to airliners.net and see that some guy at the fence snapped a picture of your perfect short field landing and wrote the comment "Got a picture of this guy today, didn't look like he was going to make the runway, then his engine cut out up there in the air and he barely made it onto the runway, he's lucky to be alive!"

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Jason,Sorry about that. I didn't want to cause any offence. I was just thinking that maybe it was this guy's first attempt at landing a plane himself. I am not a pilot, so I don't know what basic instructions are drilled into trainee pilots from the start. Maybe making sure that you are too high rather than too low is one of them...in which case, I apologise.Chris Low

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>Sorry about that. I didn't want to cause any offence. I was just thinking that maybe it was this guy's first attempt at landing a plane himself.No need to apologize, Chris :) No offense taken, either :)It's very possibly it was his first landing, so on that note- congrats on bringing her down in one piece :D :-lol (to the pilot) Take Care,Jason :)

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looks to me like there doing short field practice! I'm doing my PPL and all my training is short field. We use the engine power on a balancing act over the threshold. Its not like a normal approach! You come in slower, round out sooner and use engine power to balance the aircraft just above the stall speed with the nose raised a little. just like in the picture! most people here probably never do real short field landings as there local airport rwys are 2000+ ft. Yes Im a student thats just about done my PPL but Ive done lots more shortfield landing then most average GA PPL pilots. Some PPL pilots only every land on gravel or grass once in there life when training! Any pilot can land on a nice long concrete rwy! Your true skills are put to the test in short field! Add some Xwind and your really tested .Ive probably done more then 150. Where I train the rwy is only 400m ( 1300 ft ) gravel and grass. I don't call doing a short field approch on a 2000+ Ft concrete rwy a real short filed! Its only a real short field when the airport is a real short strip!

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