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Installing FSX and FSX:SE Updates

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All,

 

After seeing much of the feedback here on the forum, I would recommend that everyone install via a full uninstall/reinstall. This will ensure that there aren't any bits and pieces left behind from the previous install, which can show in odd ways.

 

The following is written for both the NGX and the 777 because the procedure is the same. Chose one or the other and follow the procedure for that version. Items in bold are the minimum steps required. Other items can be used to ensure no pieces from the old install are left behind (good in the case you detect there might be an issue, or just in case you want to be absolutely sure). Accomplishing the extra steps, however, will remove hours and settings files.

  • Uninstall the 737-600/700 or 777-300ER from the Control Panel
  • Uninstall the 737-800/900 or 777-200LR/F from the Control Panel
  • Delete any references to the NGX or 777 in the [sim]\PMDG folder
  • Delete any references to the NGX or777 in the [sim]\SimObjects folder (where [sim] is your FSX or FSX:SE directory)
  • Delete any references to the NGX or 777 in the %AppData%\Roaming\[Developer]\[sim]\SimObjects folder *
  • Install the 737-800/900 or 777-200LR/F
  • Install the 737-600/700 or 777-300ER

If you believe that your current install is fine. You can safely ignore this message. If you believe that your install might be missing something (weather radar is not working, the P-8 is not in the sim, etc.), then follow this procedure.

 

*If you open a Windows Explorer window and type %APPDATA%, it will bring you right to the AppData folder. No need to go unhiding folders and so on. From there, you should be able to navigate to the appropriate directory.

 

Updated: 14MAY15 - Added conditional steps and information about deleting files.

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Kyle,

 

I understand how to navigate in Windows... just unclear what folder / sub-folders you're referencing for the "%AppData%\[Developer]\[sim]\SimObjects folder". 

 

Are you talking about the NGX and 777 references in the Ops Center in the Roaming folder? If so, all references including liveries?  I run FSX.

 

Thanks so much.

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I understand how to navigate in Windows... just unclear what folder / sub-folders you're referencing for the "%AppData%\[Developer]\[sim]\SimObjects folder". 

 

Sorry - my dev stuff isn't on my sim comp so I was doing it all off of memory. I've updated the main post to include the right folder. Regardless, the only folder you're going to find PMDG stuff in is the folder you'd have to take it out of (in other words, you're not going to wind up in a spot where deleting an NGX reference would cause trouble, provided you remember which sim you're trying to delete it from).

 

 

 


Are you talking about the NGX and 777 references in the Ops Center in the Roaming folder? If so, all references including liveries?  I run FSX.

 

You can safely leave the Ops Center alone. It's its own program that works with all sim platforms. When you're removing the NGX and 777, you're trying to remove it from a specific sim. That's the aim of the above post.

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I've updated the main post

 

Thanks brother!  Appreciate all you do!

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Thanks brother!  Appreciate all you do!

 

Thanks for checking. Otherwise, I would've just buried myself other tasks.

 

Enjoy!

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Thank you Kyle

 

I'll do some tests today and if you have any information about those warnings "Fuel" and "Anti-Ice" please tell me

 

Thanks

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I'll do some tests today and if you have any information about those warnings "Fuel" and "Anti-Ice" please tell me

 

It's an issue with panel states. Try the uninstall/reinstall procedure, which will kill the old panel states. The reinstall should fix that issue.

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Ok I will reinstall the PMDG.

Btw I did some tests and that issue just happen when running one of defaults panel states

 

I'll do it now and let you now in minute :)


 

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I reinstalled PMDG as you said in the 1st post.

The panel states are sill there...

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I reinstalled PMDG as you said in the 1st post.
The panel states are sill there...

 

They're named the same thing, but they've been updated.

 

You also uninstalled and reinstalled the NGX and the airplane's model is still there. Does that mean that you don't now have weather radar...?  :wink:

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They're named the same thing, but they've been updated.

 

You also uninstalled and reinstalled the NGX and the airplane's model is still there. Does that mean that you don't now have weather radar...?  :wink:

 

Well I don't know whether or not I have radar since I haven't got ASN yet....

I'm wondering in getting the SP2 Beta but not sure if it works with weather radar!!?

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Well I don't know whether or not I have radar since I haven't got ASN yet....

I'm wondering in getting the SP2 Beta but not sure if it works with weather radar!!?

 

My point was to say "just because it looks the same doesn't mean something hasn't changed."

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My point was to say "just because it looks the same doesn't mean something hasn't changed."

 

Ohh ok right (I'm not an english native-speaker)

 

Btw I used the installer I used yesterday to reinstall it (I bought it yesterday)...would that be a problem?

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Ohh ok right (I'm not an english native-speaker)

 

Btw I used the installer I used yesterday to reinstall it (I bought it yesterday)...would that be a problem?

 

FSX:SE?

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Yes

 

K - those panel states will need to be replaced. We're working on it.

 

P3D and FSX are fine.

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Kyle, The panel states issue seems to be present in FSX as well. I did a clean install with the update with a default FSX setup and used the PMDG short panel state as a starting point. The fuel, and anti ice is on all the time. I'll submit a ticket.

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K - those panel states will need to be replaced. We're working on it.

 

P3D and FSX are fine.

 

OK good job :)

It's not a problem for me at all since if I do my own CLD DRK panel state it will work fine, but it would be good to have it fixed :)

 

Thank You

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Kyle, The panel states issue seems to be present in FSX as well. I did a clean install with the update with a default FSX setup and used the PMDG short panel state as a starting point. The fuel, and anti ice is on all the time. I'll submit a ticket.

 

Did you uninstall/reinstall via the procedure pinned at the top of the general forum, or did you just uninstall via the control panel and reinstall immediately after?

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Kyle, just a follow up... I did a full uninstall and reinstall per the posted instructions after our conversation last night, and I'm still getting the FUEL and ANTI-ICE caution. Looks like you're aware as others have reported the same fault, so I'll let you be. Other than that rather small issue, she's running great! Thanks for the awesome work!

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Kyle, just a follow up... I did a full uninstall and reinstall per the posted instructions after our conversation last night, and I'm still getting the FUEL and ANTI-ICE caution. Looks like you're aware as others have reported the same fault, so I'll let you be. Other than that rather small issue, she's running great! Thanks for the awesome work!

 

FSX or FSX:SE?

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It's an issue with panel states. Try the uninstall/reinstall procedure, which will kill the old panel states. The reinstall should fix that issue.

I found FUEL, ANTI ICE and AIR COND warnings in SP1d and guessed it was because of panel states. I had run the NGX uninstallers and then installed SP1d. After similar confusion created over 777 SP1 panel states I thought this would have been sorted out once and for all.

 

Surely when you uninstall an add-on it should delete all files installed by default, and that should include default panel states. If that was the case there would be no problems like this. It's always the same: the release thread says it doesn't matter how you install then it turns out only a full uninstall works reliably. But this still involves manually deleting files. An uninstall should be exactly that. It should clean up all files the installer installed.

 

Then again, as the new installer presumably comes with new default panel states, why don't these overwrite the SP1c default panel states? Looking at the NGX panel state folder the default states all date from 2011. There seems to be some basic file housekeeping issues here.

 

Another point, more of a request. Older PMDG installers used to have a "custom" option which meant you could deselect NAVDATA installation. Loading the sidstars files takes a long time and while you sit and watch it you know you will have to do it all again to install current AIRAC data.

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It's amazing how many people know more about developing software than a software developer.

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Another point, more of a request. Older PMDG installers used to have a "custom" option which meant you could deselect NAVDATA installation. Loading the sidstars files takes a long time and while you sit and watch it you know you will have to do it all again to install current AIRAC data.

 

Did you delete the entire [sIM]\PMDG folder after uninstalling? Because I removed only the PMDG 737 NGX subfolder and left my NAVDATA folder untouched. After installing SP1d, my current AIRAC was still there.

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