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10.40b5 now available

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Go grab it. Changelog pending :-)

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Probably fixes the mouse zoom I would assume. 

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Just a warning for others, I'm getting substantially worse performance with this beta (Glad I backed up first :-))

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Just a warning for others, I'm getting substantially worse performance with this beta (Glad I backed up first :-))

 

Did you try rebooting and then going in again? Even going and changing the rendering to something else then back again can make a huge difference. I found that on my machine. Really strange. 

 

Bob

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Horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrray!  My FPS are back at 30!

 

Thank gawd, and mouse zoom in spot view is enabled again. I wonder if that bug had anything to do with my 33 percent drop in FPS with the prior, .b4?  No matter now...I have the FPS rating once again with what I had with .b3:

 

Here's the proof..lol:

 

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Tony...so weird that you are the opposite. Reboot, defrag, etc...

 

Whew!

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Just tried a reboot, no joy. I'm also getting weird graphical artifacts on the screen like bright glowing lines around objects. Ouch, this beta is messed up for me.

 

I'll downgrade back to beta 4 for now

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Just tried a reboot, no joy. I'm also getting weird graphical artifacts on the screen like bright glowing lines around objects. Ouch, this beta is messed up for me.

 

I'll downgrade back to beta 4 for now

 

Yep the old FSX quote "Your experience may vary".

 

Bob

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Yep the old FSX quote "Your experience may vary".

 

Bob

Bob....you are cleared to take to runway '.b5'   Have a nice flight....

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"I am so glad to report, that all my .b4 performance degradation has been resolved by .b5. In fact...I have a locked 30 FPS, but I have seen my FPS counter climb OVER my locked...to 31..as my FPS performance has returned in a big way, even with heavy cloud, which we all know, is a killer for FPS...look here.., 29.64 FPS, basically at my locked 30...and it has been this way from the first at taxi.  XPX.40b5 is again the champ!"

 

I have BACKED THIS BETA UP!   Back to another great flight from KFNT, to CYBD (Bella Coola), real time.... 

 

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I have BACKED THIS BETA UP!  

How do you backup? Just copy the whole Xplane folder?

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I am doing well also. 

Question: What is the difference in texture resolution from "extreme" to "very high" ? My vram get's dropped to 1/2, but for my old eyes I cannot see any difference.

 

 

Bob

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How do you backup? Just copy the whole Xplane folder?

Yessir...everything except your custom scenery and aircraft folder. Just grab everything else and create a Zip file...  .b5 is my 'new' most excellent prior '.b3!

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Bob, you'll certainly see the difference in the cockpit, at that setting things start to become blurry, especially in HD cockpits such as those from Carenado.

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I am doing well also. 

Question: What is the difference in texture resolution from "extreme" to "very high" ? My vram get's dropped to 1/2, but for my old eyes I cannot see any difference.

 

 

Bob

I see a little difference Bob, when I go from 'Very High' to 'Extreme'...but as you say, not enough at all, to justify the 'FPS-kill zone' between the two. I only run with what you see in my screenshot..and I never change the sim settings from what you see. This is what belts out 30 FPS (.b3 and .b5) on my system..and the resultant screen grabs. It never waivers...

 

This is what I expect from this sim platform...and it delivers!

Just tried a reboot, no joy. I'm also getting weird graphical artifacts on the screen like bright glowing lines around objects. Ouch, this beta is messed up for me.

 

I'll downgrade back to beta 4 for now

Try running the 337.88 WHQL driver suite for your nVidia card (this is what is driving my GTX680 2GB in all screen shots). I have used later drivers..but this driver has always been the FPS champ from priors..and even series beyond it.  I am sticking with this one, for my GTX680!  As you can see, no artifacts running with .b5

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Tony, I am running the 337.88, best for me too.

Mitch, I am flying the 337 and see no difference. The cockpit was the first place I looked. Cannot see any difference. but with DSF checked on extreme the vram was about 22, with very high rez it is at 750. Unbelievable. Without DSF checked the max vram was about 1.4 then to 750 for very high rez. This leaves a considerable amount of vram to up something else like water rez or shadows. 

 

Bob

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Tony, I am running the 337.88, best for me too.

Mitch, I am flying the 337 and see no difference. The cockpit was the first place I looked. Cannot see any difference. but with DSF checked on extreme the vram was about 22, with very high rez it is at 750. Unbelievable. Without DSF checked the max vram was about 1.4 then to 750 for very high rez. This leaves a considerable amount of vram to up something else like water rez or shadows. 

 

Bob

Well, Bob...it truly is a most visually personal thing, in what looks good and acceptable to you, for the cost to your system.  On my system, I can get easily constant 30's (locked) in clouds, out of clouds, at taxi, rotation, spot view, cockpit...so, I never change the sim line-up.  Here's a shot out the cockpit window on my way right now to Bella Coola from Michigan...the FPS, for cloud coverage, is fantastic. I am so pleased, once more....and again stated, I never go beyond Very High, for the rez...beyond that, as Tony states, and I readily agree, there is absolutely no true visual R.O.I.

 

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"By the way...how sweet would Life be...if I could tell you that that was MY profile in the Eclispe.  Alas...my face can only be seen in the reflection of the monitor screen... "  ^_^

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I'm on a Mac, so unfortunately I don't get the option to install other nvidia drivers.

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Awesome!

 

Yep, I am going to fiddle a little more (what's new LOL). 

 

Bob

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I'm on a Mac, so unfortunately I don't get the option to install other nvidia drivers.

That might be the problem then, Tony.  Sorry to read that .b5 came up short. This is so weird...all of it...

Awesome!

 

Yep, I am going to fiddle a little more (what's new LOL). 

 

Bob

Bob...I am curious...as an idea...why don't you mimic my settings, and see what that gives you for system performance, FPS related, and visuals put out the door....please make some screen shots. I am most curious....

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No worries, after all Ben was pretty clear that this might happen. As they say, install betas at your own risk

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B5 is crazy fantastic...I am honestly getting FPS readings in flight of 33.50 and 34.65 FPS even though I have the FPS locked to 30. This is the best performance ever from XP, from the very first XP6 installation, to the present.

 

Wow...

 

Saying that what was wrong with .b4 is fixed...is an understatement!  Ben...congrat's...yeah..this is a beta, and there will be other b-releases...but to have my system RENDER MORE than what I have it locked to...well...WTH!!!!!!!   :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

 

Here is my latest 'fix' in my flight to Bella Coola...and I only wish I could be fast enough to snap the pic when the read-out is at 33, occasionally....but that is near impossible to time. To snap what FPS reads you see in this at-cruise pic is easy, as that is my norm post,... .b5...

 

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Fast on the draw...I got one... :)  I get the same 33.50 peaks even at level flight view. I just have to be lucky enough, to be hitting the grab's, when it comes up. This is with XPX.40b5 locked in-sim, to a high of 30 FPS max!

 

 

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Final comment upon .b5:

 

As a result of the added performance boost of .b5...I have been able to set within SkyMaxx Pro, all clouds to crazy-on full...with the repeatable FPS maintained. So..this screen is my new standard SkyMaxx Pro cloud rendering setting.  It doesn't get any better than this within a sim...

 

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Mitch, what are you using to lock your frames @30, NI?

 

Bob

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Mitch, what are you using to lock your frames @30, NI?

 

Bob

Look at my set up at the top right, Bob....set and locked to my REFRESH RATE, which is 30 FPS/6O Hz refresh rate for my monitor. Conversely, if you have a 120 Hz monitor..then your sim would be locked to 120, and 1/2 half that through the driver, to 60 max FPS. You then can use nVidia Inspector on your X Plane tab, to cut to 1/2 refresh rate. That's how it is done.  I had to redo this to make it clear, lol. I saw that I had left steps out...since I never change it.

 

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clear blue sky always gives good fps  :rolleyes:   what are your fps on a cloudy day?

The same...look for my screen shots of prior posts that display the same FPS with haze and multi-layer. They're all over the place, LOL!  BTW.. exactly what clear-blue cloudless sky are you seeing in these snaps?!??  I see haze, clouds out to the horizon, and cirrus above. These are not easy on GPU's, to render and maintain high FPS. That's been my usage history, lol.

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