Hi guys!

 

I couldnt find the right section for this question (so if im posting in the wrong one, please move).

Si its time for me to buy a new pc to enjoy P3D to the fullest. Im sick of running it with 15 fps and stuttering. I want to enjoy P3D with Active Sky, FTX Norway, PMDG and AoN with a minium of 20-30 fps. So i was wondering if you guys could help me out as i know many of you have experience with getting the best setup. I dont wanna build a pc myself, so im gonna buy one that the store will build for me.

 

I've been looking at two different pc's (and i got the option to chose between different sets of hardware). The website is in norwegian, but all the hardware is in english language.

 

1:

https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=10859

 

(Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black

Power supply: Corsair RM650, 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790S, Socket-LGA1150 Prosessor, Quad Core, 3.2GHz, 8MB

Motherboard: MSI Z97 GAMING 3, Socket-1150

RAM: Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 16GB KIT 16GB kit (8GBx2)

GFX Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4GB PCI-Express 3.0, "Twin Frozr V")

 

 

2:

https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=11064

 

(Case: Not selected yet

Power supply: Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 8MB

Motherboard: ASUS Z170-A, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133MHz 8GB 2x4GB

GFX Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB PCI-Express 3.0

 

Is there anything i will need to change to get great fps and smooth flying?

 

PS: If you click the links you will see there are many different options meaning you could change any hardware.

 

Crossing my fingers someone will help me

Sorry for bumping, but im really desperate!

Neither, buy from somewhere you can get a K series cpu from, and preferably pre-overclocked too.

Neither, buy from somewhere you can get a K series cpu from, and preferably pre-overclocked too.

 

Thanks for your reply!

 

This is a option then:

https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=11045

 

Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3

Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151

MSI Z170A PC MATE, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170

HyperX Fury DDR4 2133MHz 16GB kit 2x8GB CL14

MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB PCI-Express 3.0

 

Is that better?

Looks ok, except I would add the Corsair H75 cooler and change the ram for the 2666mhz stuff

I would check out other suppliers, shop around. Look for suppliers that might offer better coolers and RAM optimised for Skylake. Like the G.SKILL Ripjaw V's. Might not be in your price range but do check.

 

If you intend to overclock you will need a decent cooler and none of the coolers that supplier offers impress me.

 

Same for PSU, strictly speaking 600 Watt's is sufficient, but personally, I would be more comfortable with a little more. Less load on the PSU so lower PSU fan speed, so less noise. And less load on the PSU equates to longer lifespan due to less heat. More capacity for future expansion too.

 

I would also go for an Asus Z170-A, as opposed to an MSI board.

 

You need to tell us the max you are prepared to spend really.

 

I know this is a bought PC and not a self build, but the following from the Asus PC DIY site might be of some use and give you an idea what can be achieved on a budget...

 

https://pcdiy.asus.com/2015/08/build-a-pc-630-z170-gaming-build-6600k-gtx-950/

 

The above is a good starting point. If the budget allows it can be upgraded to a 6700K and graphics card upgraded too. Will cost you more if a company builds it for you, but it should give you an idea of what's possible.

Thanks for the help guys!

 

Im only gonna buy a pc from Norway, as it would be too expensive to buy from a different country due to taxes and customs. Im looking to spend maximum of 2200$ as hardware is expensive in Norway. Im not gonna overclock by the way. Or is it necessary to do to gain the best FPS even with good hardware..?

Overclocking is a free, easy and incredibly effective way to get more horsepower out of your processor. It's not a dark mysterious art that it used to be, many easy to follow guides can be googled, bing'd, Yahoo'd. Do it, your fps will thank you.

You will definitely have to overclock, there really isn't any way around it.  I don't see anything about storage space, have you got any idea what you want to use, HDD or SSD?

I already have 2 SSD and 1 HDD. So im only gonna buy one SSD with the new one. Is it a good idea to have a own SSD for P3D?

 

Djeesus, im so confused on what kind of PC i should buy. I cant make up my mind.. and i dont even know anything about hardware (well i used to, but i lost it the last years)

Don't let anyone tell you that you MUST overclock. It's simply not true. There are sliders, some are allergic to using them. I'm currently not overclocking my 3770k at all anymore, couldn't be bothered after replacing a faulty board and as i'm about to build a Skylake rig.

 

The 6700k will perform well even without overclocking. However, if you do overclock you will be able to nudge the sliders higher and enjoy the resulting eye candy. And to be honest, its so easy and safe these days you'd be advised to give it a bash. Automatic overclocking, like Asus 5 way optimisation is very good these days. Asus auto rules are very good.

Don't let anyone tell you that you MUST overclock. It's simply not true. There are sliders, some are allergic to using them. I'm currently not overclocking my 3770k at all anymore, couldn't be bothered after replacing a faulty board and as i'm about to build a Skylake rig.

 

The 6700k will perform well even without overclocking. However, if you do overclock you will be able to nudge the sliders higher and enjoy the resulting eye candy. And to be honest, its so easy and safe these days you'd be advised to give it a bash. Automatic overclocking, like Asus 5 way optimisation is very good these days. Asus auto rules are very good.

 

Thanks for clearing that up! I always been a skeptical to touch anything relating to the CPU and especially overclocking incase i blow up the whole computer (well that wont happen will it.)

 

Anyways, based on your and others advices im starting to narrowing it down.. So how about this one:

 

https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=11045

 

Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 Midi Tower - not really a fan of this. Is there a good cabinet out there with good cooling?

 

Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V - im guessing i will need a more powerful one?

 

Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151 - good enough?

 

Corsair H55 Hydro Series CPU Cooling - or should i go for the H75?

 

MSI Z170A PC MATE, Socket-1151 ATX - or should i go for ASUS?

 

HyperX Fury 2666MHz 16GB (4x4GB) 16GB 2666MHz DDR4

 

MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB PCI-Express 3.0 - is there a better, but not that expensive option?

 

Crucial® BX100 250GB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/s

 

Thanks again for the help guys!

No, you won't blow up your PC with overclocking. :smile: CPU's are designed to throttle back when they reach TJMax, and at approximately 25 degrees above that they will shut down to prevent damage. Intel are so confident you won't destroy your CPU with overclocking that they'll sell you their Performance Tuning Plan. For a small sum your CPU can be insured against overclocking damage. Destroy it and they'll send you a new one. Of course, they're prepared to do this because they know it very rarely happens.

Obviously though, if you frequently push your CPU close to TJMax it will impact CPU life span.

A mild to moderate overclocking endeavour on your part, either with the motherboards overclocking software or with manual UEFI inputs is safe.
 

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Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 Midi Tower - not really a fan of this. Is there a good cabinet out there with good cooling?

Actually there are tons of them out there. You just need to look on the manufacturers web sites. Coolermaster, Corsair, Fractal Designs, NZXT plenty of manufacturers to choose from. Look for decent fan placement, balanced or negative case pressure. Avoid more fans blowing in than sucking out, thus positive case pressure. By definition, positive case pressure restricts removal of warm air, therefore stagnant warm air remains in the enclosure longer. Don't get carried away with loads of fans, most of us over cool our PC's. Too many fans can actually cause turbulence and be detrimental to cooling.

 

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Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V - im guessing i will need a more powerful one?

 

Technically 600 watts is probably sufficient, but my personal preference is for a tad more for the reasons I stated earlier.

Use the PSU wattage calculators as a guide.

http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psu-finder

Lots more PSU calculators out there for you to try too.

 

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Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151 - good enough?

Absolutely! Latest 6th gen architecture. Not just a faster IMC either, there are lots of new features that Skylake brings to the table.

 

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Corsair H55 Hydro Series CPU Cooling - or should i go for the H75?

Check out the cooler reviews for both coolers, and others.


It depends if you're a fan of closed loop water coolers. Personally I prefer top notch tower heat sinks. The best tower heat sinks don't beat them, but they do approach the best all in one closed loop coolers, they can't leak and damage your components, have no water pump to fail and they handle overclocks well. Personally, I have a Noctua NH-D14. For my new 6700K build I'm going for the NH-D15S.

This is a personal choice though, so like with much of this stuff, you need to decide if you are okay with water cooling, read the relevant reviews and make a decision based on that.

 

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MSI Z170A PC MATE, Socket-1151 ATX - or should i go for ASUS?

As I said previously, I prefer Asus. For you perhaps the Z170 A would be appropriate? I like Asus because I regard them as reliable, and I like the overclocking software package that comes with the board. This is a personal choice though, none of us can tell you what to do. You must do some research and decide if the manufacturer is one you regard as worthy of receiving your money, in terms of reliability, features offered etc.

Check out the many motherboard reviews and make a decision based on that.

For RAM, as I said previously, the new Skylake optimised Ripjaw V's are available. That would be my choice.


I'm in the same position as you. Namely that I don't do any research at all on the latest kit, until I'm about to build. My advice is based on the research I've done over the last couple of weeks.

That's the best advice I can give you, ask here by all means, and I hope I've helped in some way but also read the reviews for the 6700K, the graphics cards, motherboards, SSD's, RAM etc. That way you can make an informed decision.

I always ask on forums too, but it's a good idea to support that with lots of Googling. A couple of hours looking at reviews and getting up to speed re the latest kit will pay great dividends.

 

 

Good luck with your new PC, I'm sure you'll be thrilled with it. :smile:

Hey martin-w!

 

Thank you SO MUCH for your help! You really helped me out here. I really appreciate that!

 

So after your help and a reading a few reviews, this is the PC i ended up with.

 

Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 Midi Tower Sort

Corsair RM650, 650W PSU

Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake

Intel TS15A CPU Air Cooler (it came with the CPU)

ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, Socket-1151

HyperX Fury 2666MHz 16GB (4x4GB)

ASUS GeForce STRIX GTX 970 4GB (i hope this is good?!)

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD

Looks good.  The 970 is a great card without breaking the bank.