October 11, 201510 yr Good Morning to all, first of all, a sincere thank you for the great amount of information that is posted here every day, as I can see the "gurus" take a lot of time to help the ones like me, who have been away from P3D for the last 2 years. I have just decided for a new rig that will be landing in my room on the 15th, so in preparation for the huge amount of workload that I am going to have to do to get everything back as it was... here is a few questions for the people who know P3D well. I had a very solid set up on FSX with DX10 and an OCed processor, and I am still a bit scared of the migration to P3Dv3, as I literally know nothing about settings or tweaks in this platform, despite the fact I spent years researching them for FSX. System: i7 6700 SkyLake (5.2 Ghz Oc on water cooling) GForce 980Ti Super Clocked (on water cooling too) 16gb RipJaws DDR4 3 SSDs 128Gb/500gb/500gb (One for Windows, One for P3Dv3, one for a possible FSX) 1 Sata HDD 3TB for Storage Now, having said that... I normally fly airliners into complex sceneries, and the occasional VFR spin around the airport just for fun, but I'm not a VFR/3000 ft kind of guy unfortunately. I fly online 99% of my time, so no AI Traffic for me. I will install straight away: REX4, SoftClouds, FS Global Mesh 2010, FTX Global, FTX LC and FTX Vector with Active Sky. Questions: 1) Does anyone have a standard set of settings that will provide solid performance and good visuals without killing the VAS? I heard people use different things depending on the kind of flying they do... If you could show me how you got it set up I would really appreciate. 2) in the prepar3d.cfg: what are the tweaks that I need? I heard only AffinityMask, OptimizeParts, FiberFrame. Anything else? 3) When it comes to AffinityMask... any recommendation ? The values work like in FSX? That's all for now but I will probably be asking a lot more questions in the coming days!Thanks a lot!! Gio Giorgio La Pira
October 11, 201510 yr @_@ With your rig's speed and hardware.... in V3 of P3D, my recommended settings are for you are.... MAX EVERYTHING. That is all. Happy flying. Seriously... if my i7 3930k @ 4.6ghz with a GTX 980 and a 1T SSD MX200 drive can run at extremely high settings your machine should take it all the way to the max and with V3's new amazing VAS handling you should be fine to fly into just about anything without fear of OOMing. It is still possible but you have to have the right combo of 3rd party addons to do it. You will only need OptimzeParts=1. I think it is pre-set now in V3's config. With your SSD drives running the show you can get away with FFTT=0.01. I do on my rig and get ZERO blurries, even with high autogen turned on. You do not need an AffinityMask but I suggest shutting down Hyperthreading in your Bios if it is on which will eliminate the possibility of thread thrashing on loss of performance. That is a powerful setup you got. If you are flying on triple monitors Max settings may still erode performance. A second video card is recommend if you going to fly in such extreme resolutions. On a single display setup though your hardware should chew up this sim and spit it out. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 11, 201510 yr First, just give P2D v3 a chance. You might be surprised. :wink: Clayton Clayton Scott Win10 Pro x64v2004 -256GB M.2 600p | Prepar3D v5.0 hf2 -512GB M.2 960Pro | Storage -1TB 850 Pro Z270 XPower Titanium / i7-7700K @4.7GHz-H115i / 32GB Trident Z @3200MHz 14-14-14-34 GTX1070 Quicksilver (451.48) | 34W 2560x1080 | Crystal 460X-AX860i
October 11, 201510 yr Install and enjoy, I would say. You should be able to fly with very high settings with no real problems. Before you start tweaking the cfg, fly without doing so for a few days. Only start tweaking the cfg when something specific doesn't go well and tweak accordingly. I would never add a tweak without knowing what it is for and if you actually need it. P3D runs great without tweaking and adding tweaks will only disrupt the balance. And again, with your rig you should be able to get great performance by just using the settings in the sim. Concerning the settings: depending on your resolution you probably will be able to max out all settings on the graphics tabs, also because you don't use any AI traffic. Final word of advice: only install v3 compatible addons which means that at this moment Vector will have to wait. The Rex products and mesh also aren't officially compatible afaik but I think it should be possible to install them somehow. I would wait for official v3 installers though. Global, OpenLC and ASN are all good to go. Finally: what a great rig you are getting...! Congrats with that! May I ask where you ordered it? A guaranteed 5.2 OC sounds awesome...!
October 11, 201510 yr Author Hi Guys, thanks a LOT for the quick and extensive replies! It's nice to see, for a change, that everyone is agreeing on the "plug and play"concept of P3Dv3. Such a breath of fresh air compared to us "FSXers" that have been fine tuning and tweaking CFGs, DX10Fixers, etc... @Kuragiman: Thanks dude, I will have a look for OptimizedParts, and if it's not there I'll add it. Chances are they already put it in. For Fiber 0.1, I'll give it ago. Common word is that if you are running SSDs you can afford this without blurries. I'll probably just try over the first couple of weeks, with and without it... @Psybear: I will Clayton! Let's see how it goes! I got an extra SSD in case I want to install FSX Again, but I doubt that will happen hehehehe @JvanE: Thanks a lot for your words too! I am running a single big gaming monitor, thinking of possibly changing it to something a bit bigger, but for now, my BENQ 120Hz is doing just fine... Regarding v3 installers... yes, totally... I will wait for things to be released. Sounds like REX will be this week, and Vector wont take long. Pilot's has sent the installers to FlightSimStore apparently, so I don't think it will be long either! Regarding the OC, it's a company here in Dubai that specialises in gaming rigs. I am trying to set up a deal with them to offer IVAO members in the Middle East a reliable group of people to deliver top end simming machines, but this is a trial. By the sounds of it, the Skylake i7 can be pushed to 5.2 on air if you know what you are doing... but this guys are working on Liquid Cooling, and they seem to have OCed this processor already a few times. They said to expect 5.0, most likely somewhere around 5.2... they will run the stability test and the benchmarks and then they will make a decision. As they are giving me a warranty, they will not take any risks Are you guys using any migration tool? Most of the sceneries I fly from will not get a proper P3Dv3 installer, so I'll be forced to use some sort of migration tool... Take care, and thanks again! Gio Giorgio La Pira
October 11, 201510 yr With your SSD drives running the show you can get away with FFTT=0.01 Brian you mention fiber - I have FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.10 Is there a difference I have not seen your version of this line Rich Sennett
October 11, 201510 yr I will install straight away: REX4, SoftClouds, FS Global Mesh 2010, FTX Global, FTX LC and FTX Vector with Active Sky. No you won't: REX will have updates out nest week. FS Global Mesh is mesh so that at least needs no clever handling, unless you wish to control how it might interract with other scenery meshes as there is no longer a priori domination of higher quality mesh over lower (you need to learn the new file structure to understand this); FTX Global does have an updated installer, but you need new library files; FTX OpenLC is compatible with a new installer; Vector isnt and Active Sky is awaiting an update (in beta and publically available) We will only tell you once: DO NOT leap into this with both feet. Otherwise confusion and a full reinstall is in your very near future. DO NOT use ANYTHING that requires a migration tool in this simulator. Not only do you not know what you're doing, neither does it.
October 11, 201510 yr Louis, please read the entire topic before you post something like that. Thank you. And please don't say 'we' when you should say 'I'. Thank you again. Your post and tone of voice was totally unnecessary.
October 11, 201510 yr Brian you mention fiber - I have FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.10 Is there a difference I have not seen your version of this line Mine is 0.01 (that translates to 1% process time for scenery processing) Some will say there is no difference and P3D will just reset that low setting to .10 anyway. I say, yes it does make a difference. This is not a recommended setting on a majority of people's machines as it will cause autogen loss or blurry scenery. On my rig it is fantastic. I don't get blurries nor does my autogen vanish but what I do get is maximum possible FPS and no stuttering. *shrugs* Everyone's system is different and no two settings will give the same result. RAMDisks are your friend. I knew there was a reason I stuffed 32gigs of memory in my system. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 11, 201510 yr Louis, please read the entire topic before you post something like that. Thank you. And please don't say 'we' when you should say 'I'. Thank you again. Your post and tone of voice was totally unnecessary. As long as I don't say `you`, if you perceive `we` to be `me` that is a problem for `you`. The advice stands, is sound, and is probably too late. The complete obsession with piling non-appropriate product into the new sim is already obscuring the genuine issues and tribulations the new platform presents. Just throwing in your old `stuff` is not going to work. There is sufficient dissimilarity between 2.5 and 3 that this way disaster lies - if not now, then at some point in the future. What everyone should know is no matter the advice you read, the decision to take it is `yours` and yours alone. And that most certainly does include you. As your advice earlier in the topic indicates. I spent three hours fixing my neighbours v3 Pro installation on Friday after the steaming idiot installed some high class addon that stopped the sim from booting. You probably know which one. Oh, and the "steaming idiot" was his description of himself when he phoned to ask for my help after I expressly TOLD him to NOT INSTALL any of his old software - and he did it anyway. For everyone else, listen or don't. It's not my sausage. It's already the last time for him. I'm not that neighbourly.
October 11, 201510 yr Mine is 0.01 (that translates to 1% process time for scenery processing) Some will say there is no difference and P3D will just reset that low setting to .10 anyway. I say, yes it does make a difference. This is not a recommended setting on a majority of people's machines as it will cause autogen loss or blurry scenery. On my rig it is fantastic. I don't get blurries nor does my autogen vanish but what I do get is maximum possible FPS and no stuttering. *shrugs* Everyone's system is different and no two settings will give the same result. RAMDisks are your friend. I knew there was a reason I stuffed 32gigs of memory in my system. Wow be careful with this setting - pc freaked out - screen went black and pc rebooted itself - never seen anything like it all set with that Rich Sennett
October 11, 201510 yr Wow be careful with this setting - pc freaked out - screen went black and pc rebooted itself - never seen anything like it all set with that Are you referring to the FF Time setting? I too use .01 and it's great, best performance at the cost of the occasional few blurries, but I prefer the smoother framerate. Between this and the ASN debacle, thinking you are having some system issues... Allen, flight sim lover and AA-5 Traveler owner
October 11, 201510 yr P3Dv3 runs great without any cfg tweaks. Once all the developers catch up with product updates you will never touch FSX again! I started with P3D v2 and never looked back. FSX just feels old. Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
October 11, 201510 yr No issues here - installer did not work due to a folder left over from p3d 2.5 which I left on purpose to save something asn installer should not have tried to install it there when I directed it to v3 folder as for FF it probably didnt agree with my overclock Rich Sennett
October 12, 201510 yr The advice stands, is sound, and is probably too late. The complete obsession with piling non-appropriate product into the new sim is already obscuring the genuine issues and tribulations the new platform presents. Sigh... you still didn't read the topic, did you? Ah well, never mind.
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