I think that you missed my point. Sure, there might be a three-figured Titan-like GP-100 PCIe release during 2016, just to entice the VR freaks who can't use their goggles without blowing their cookies at 60 fps. My point is that is not nVidia's target market. They don't need Intel and it's outdated architecture anymore. Their goal is to sell their GPUs to the highest bidder: driverless cars, workstation manufacturers, game consoles, whatever. 

Hi Jabloom...I got your point...but think of this...beyond Maxwell, there will be Pascal...and Pascal will be shunted to all their partners, of whom they will continue to support, EVGA, ZOTAC, ASUS, MSI....every nVidia graphics card manufacturer!

 

Yes...Pascal will be a gaming platform first!

 

nVidia is not out of the gaming theater....

 

It's coming...so start saving your pesos, for this is a GPU-changing of the guard.........

I suspect it will be the same as the Titan launch....but I don't think there will be the need for freq grades...anymore...like xxxx.Ti series, etc...because of the inherent power of this GPU and memory stack.  They are not going to price all their partners out of a product that will sell to the mean average, and current clientele. That would not be an astute business model to follow, but we all can have a 'plan B' if that for whatever insane set of circumstances occurs....the plan B is of course picking up a high Maxwell based unit (GTX980Ti).  They are great as well..but my sights are dead set on Pascal and what it can bring to the table.  Plan B will be in my back pocket as insurance,

 

Cheers

Here's an example of of a tablet that is solely nVidia hardware. Now imagine one with a GP-100 in it and running Android.

 

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-pixel-c-tablet/

I think that you missed my point. Sure, there might be a three-figured Titan-like GP-100 PCIe release during 2016, just to entice the VR freaks who can't use their goggles without blowing their cookies at 60 fps. My point is that is not nVidia's target market. They don't need Intel and it's outdated architecture anymore. Their goal is to sell their GPUs to the highest bidder: driverless cars, workstation manufacturers, game consoles, whatever. 

Please.......in the name of all is good, can we not start with the target market argument again. It is a neat term to throw around and it sounds important and it is important if you are selling laundry soap or AK-47 look a likes.   For some reason LM, ORBX, x-plane, nvidia, Flight 1, Flight Sim Market, and the list goes on and on, feel like we are a market. We may not turn the yearly numbers of Ford Motor company for sure.... but for some reason these companies like our money. These Dev's like us to believe that our money means nothing to them and yet they would rather give you the key to their wife's or Girlfriend's chasity belt than tell you how they get the door of their new Cessna 172 add on to open. :h0120:

Here's an example of of a tablet that is solely nVidia hardware. Now imagine one with a GP-100 in it and running Android.

 

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-pixel-c-tablet/

Oh sure, Jab...there will be other markets...what firm wouldn't explore that...but I'll repeat again...present business partner firms, are going to be serviced first before any new opportunist-bents, and clients are marketed. Besides, there is a raging competition for graphics supremacy between nVidia and AMD...and both companies are run not by 'bots...but by human-driven competitiveness....and that is good for all of us...

This is not about market share. It's about where the money is.

 

Besides, take a look at how nVidia introduced the Maxwell GPUs. The first 900 series Maxwells  (GTX 970 and GTX 980) used a GM204 and came out in September, 2014. It wasn't until 6 months later that the flagship Titan X (GM200) came out and 9 months until the GTX 980Ti (also GM200) was released. Unless the Oculus Rift really takes off, we're probably looking at a similar timeline beginning when the first enthusiast Pascal-based card is introduced. And at $599 for the OR, I don't see a whole lot of people running out to buy the headsets, until the price comes down.

 

To be honest, P3d 3.1 and XP10 run so nicely at 1440p with my GTX 980Ti, that I don't see a pressing need to upgrade anything ATM. And if I did, it would be a whole new X99 system with one of the just announced Broadwell-E enthusiast CPUs.

This is not about market share. It's about where the money is.

 

Besides, take a look at how nVidia introduced the Maxwell GPUs. The first 900 series Maxwells  (GTX 970 and GTX 980) used a GM204 and came out in September, 2014. It wasn't until 6 months later that the flagship Titan X (GM200) came out and 9 months until the GTX 980Ti (also GM200) was released. Unless the Oculus Rift really takes off, we're probably looking at a similar timeline beginning when the first enthusiast Pascal-based card is introduced. And at $599 for the OR, I don't see a whole lot of people running out to buy the headsets, until the price comes down.

 

To be honest, P3d 3.1 and XP10 run so nicely at 1440p with my GTX 980Ti, that I don't see a pressing need to upgrade anything ATM. And if I did, it would be a whole new X99 system with one of the just announced Broadwell-E enthusiast CPUs.

As you say...if you are happy with your Maxwell based, then surely why even contemplate upgrading? For myself, I made the decision to sit out the Maxwell series and hang onto my Kepler GTX680, and see what would come down the pipe, post Maxwell.

 

 So Jab, in that regard, I'm in just the right upgrade position to do just that.  If I had already in place a Maxwell GTX980Ti...I most likely would sit in the bush once more...and see how it all plays out, as I did with my Kepler.

 

If an enthusiast card comes in around the launch price of the Titan...and/or below...I'll certainly make my Pascal move on it.  I have had plenty of time to save for this event, so again, am looking most forward with great excitement, and enthusiasm, to the Pascal debut in a few more months...

 

Ses

 

The most recent rumors are a very limited release of some GP104-based cards in late May, because of a short supply of GDDR5x memory:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-gddr5x-based-on-pascal-gpu-in-may.html

 

And no GP100 cards (Titan, GTX 1080Ti) until later in the year.

 

And no GP100 cards (Titan, GTX 1080Ti) until later in the year.

 

This is probably so that everyone has more time to remortgage their properties.

QUOTED in the publication below... from an earlier post in this thread,

 

"The Tesla segment of Nvidia GPUs will also recieve NV link which will bypass the bottleneck of the PCI-e bus by using a custom interconnect that is roughly 5 times faster."

Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-hbm2-16gb-1-tbs-2016/#ixzz42u1ngrJF

 

I questioned the capability of the PCIe bus quite a few times but was assured that it was not a bottleneck !  Now I feel that a lot of stutters etc are coming from the bus... backed up by the above statement.

 

If your CPU is running at 60% and your GPU is running at 65% and you are getting stutters probably a few possibilities causing them...  the bus being one of them, especially if you have other boards plugged in (sound cards ,  USB3 cards, SSD cards etc)

 

Thoughts...