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40" 4k Monitor with GTX970 - How graphics intensive can you get?

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This probably applies to those with this hardware setup. 

 

I'm building a new PC so wanted to get the experience of users with the same/similar setup: How well does add ons and payware aircraft fare with those who use the GTX970 card and a 4k monitor? There have been multiple threads here on whether this card could run it, apparently it can, but couldnt find information regarding whether if it was with a basic run down, or with heavy add ons like UTX, GTX, REX, mesh, etc.. 

 

The monitor I'm considering is the Philips 40" BDM4065UC with an GTX970 4GB card. I do mainly low altitude scenery flying and use payware aircraft. What FPS do you get? How much would you have to back off on settings? 

 

Thanks, I'm about to bite the bullet, but since FSX is the only "game" I play, I don't want to get a card that can't support a proper experience. 

 

 

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In a similar boat, I'm sitting in the back row waiting for replies also.

 

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I don't have a 4K monitor but I run a EVGA GTX 970 SSC. My two simulators of choice are XP-10 and P3D v3.1.  For P3D I have most of the Orbx scenery + Airports, UK2000 scenery, REX4, ASN, Real Air Duke & Legacy, A2A Cessna 182, A2A Cherokee 180 & A2A Comanche, PMDG 777 & 737NGX and the Majestic Q400. I easily hold around 25-30 fps no matter where I fly and I get very smooth performance. My setting are towards the maxed out settings. I lock my frames at 30.

 

I also get very good performance in XP-10.

 

Pete

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it will but your framerates won't be that high, i have a 28 inch 4k monitor and a gtx 980 ti and keep around 30fps with the pmdg 777.i would hold out for the next line of cards for 4k if you can. if not at least get a gtx 980 where you can use all 4gb of vram.

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I'm running a 970 on 55 inch 4k monitor.

I fly heavies at altitude most of the time...PMDG 737 and 777.

I run at the rez just below the highest (not at pc and can't remember the numbers)

 

FSDT KLAX and Orbitz SoCal, very high settings.

Frames are fine 30s I'd say.

 

P3d 3.1, 4790k clocked to 4.6ghz, ai traffic at 30%.

 

Sorry on mobile device so can't give great details, but bottom line I'm very pleased with the 970 running at 4k

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I have heard Two 970 cards in SLI are Better then a single 980ti. Look at some benchmark comparisons.

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I have heard Two 970 cards in SLI are Better then a single 980ti. Look at some benchmark comparisons.

 

I doubt that is the case with FSX.

Do you have a link to any FSX comparison benchmarks we can look at?

 

gb.

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I never said for FSX did I? P3D does support SLI. IMO only a fool would build or buy a major component for a dead and useless title such as FSX & FSX-SE.

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Well, two 970's in SLI are definitely much better than a single 980 for most other games, but as far as I know FSX doesn't run well on a SLI setup. Haven't made the jump to P3D yet, as I was waiting for 3.1v to be released to try it out.

 

But- there are plenty known issues with SLI configurations for Nvidia cards, that it might be a headache, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but going SLI doesn't get rid of the VRAM limitations of the 970 cards. SLI'ing it will definitely make a difference, but enough for the low FPS requirements for FSX/P3D, that I dont know. 

 

Steve Dra, your settings seem to be pretty good, thanks, the only difference would be low altitude flying would cause a drop in FPS in a scenic environment and thats what worries me. ORBX PNW is my main go to, and its pretty intensive. 

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I am running P3DV3 with all the addons on a 78" Samsung curved 4K @ 60hz.

 

I first ran a GTX 970 on a water cooled 2600k @ 4.7, 20-30 fps

Added later another GTX 970 and setup SLI.  Better performance for sure. More fps and less stutters.

 

However, upgrading to a new Skylake  i7 6700k @4.8 and a ROG Maximus motherboard and DDR4 memory was a significant boost bringing fps to 40 +

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I never said for FSX did I? P3D does support SLI. IMO only a fool would build or buy a major component for a dead and useless title such as FSX & FSX-SE.

 

The OP states FSX is the only sim he uses so obviously I've made a mistake in assuming you actually read his post? How foolish of me.

 

gb.

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However, upgrading to a new Skylake  i7 6700k @4.8 and a ROG Maximus motherboard and DDR4 memory was a significant boost bringing fps to 40 +

 

That's actually the exact same hardware that i'm building currently, I wonder if I could get away with a single 970gtx with that newer component setup. 

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I find there to be only a small improvement with SLI configuration. Although being basically stutter free is a big bonus!!

One GPU works fine.

 

I watched a video a while back showing that with the Skylake processors and a compatible MB and ram, there was better SLI performance.

 

So I took the plunge.  :smile:

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I find there to be only a small improvement with SLI configuration. Although being basically stutter free is a big bonus!!

One GPU works fine.

 

I watched a video a while back showing that with the Skylake processors and a compatible MB and ram, there was better SLI performance.

 

So I took the plunge.  :smile:

 

That's great to hear! Thanks for your specs and info, much appreciated. 

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I have a BDM4065UC monitor and run a 770 4gb card at 4K and typically get 30fps  plus with the NGX at the high end payware airports (eg Flytampa yssy and FSDT cyvr) in fine weather and about 20 fps in heavy weather.  I run at about 20% AI and the normal setting for autogen and this is with boxed FSX.  So you should have no issues with the 970 at 4K unless it only having a usable 3gb of vram is a factor.  In the light of my experience not sure why others seem to insist that you need a very high end gpu (ie 980ti plus) for FSX at 4K.

 

Bruceb

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Hi Folks,

 

Been following the 1,000,000 plus viewed DA CRJ thread over on Aerosoft - they just mentioned buying a bunch of LG Ultra Wide Monitors for the office and everyone loves them... You can do shots like the one I posted below and I'm seriously considering going this route myself off a GTX970... They stated that the loss of frames on the Ultra Wide Monitors is minimal running 3440x1440...

 

The ones they are using are "LG 34UM95"

 

For me - who still uses a single 4:3 - this would be a huge difference...

 

Seems like a better match to our real peripheral vision - just something to consider...

 

 

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Actual Post where they start showcasing the new monitors and talk about it in subsequesnt posts (LOL - along with the CRJ): http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/33966-aerosoft-da-crj-preview/&page=224#comment-732204

 

Regards,

Scott

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I didn't care much for my triple monitor setup.

It's impressive to look at the setup, it seems to make sense but simming itself is not so immersive.

When I moved to a large 4k curved tv with TrackIR the experience is amazing.

The only thing that might beat it would be VR but I doubt that will ever happen until FSim is re-writen to allow optimal use of our next-gen rigs.

 

Cheers

Steve.

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Before moving to 4K I considered the 21:9 (3440x1440) format monitors until I realized that the vertical dimension would be the same as the 16:10 (1920x1200) monitor I have used for many years and I wanted something bigger in width and height.  Initially I went for a 32 inch Samsung 2560x1440 monitor which worked great with no noticeable dip in fps compared to 1920x1200. But after a few months got the Phillips 4K for FSX and use the Samsung as a secondary monitor alongside it for moving map etc and non FS tasks.  I actually run the Phillips at slightly less than 4K  (3840X1900) which gives me an aspect ratio closer to the 21:9 of the 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors.

 

Bruceb

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  I actually run the Phillips at slightly less than 4K  (3840X1900)

 

Bruceb

 

Since it is not in native res, doesn't that make everything rather blurry?

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Since it is not in native res, doesn't that make everything rather blurry?

 

Only for non FS tasks eg web browsing word processing etc.  Within FSX no difference in screen clarity between custom and native resolution.  As my Phillips monitor is dedicated to FSX this is not an issue for me.  I have also found that if I set my non FS monitor as the primary monitor and my FS monitor as the secondary one there is a 20% or so increase in fps over having things the other way round - at least with fps set to unlimited.  Unsure why I see this but I have also had the same with other monitors.

 

Bruceb

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I am not spending any more money on monitors etc, after experiencing FS on google cardboard through the videos on youtube, it is amazing and i am holding off to late this year to get oculus rift and a new rig to play FS, VR is the next generation for gaming.

 

VR puts you "in" the cockpit you can get all the latest and greatest monitors out there but you are still "out" of the cockpit / flight deck.

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I have a 40" LG 4K and what transformed the sim for me was changing the HDMI input in the LG menu to PC and applying the affinity mask setting with HT enabled in the thread below:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/482415-my-version-on-how-to-get-smooth-and-stutter-free-p3d-31/

 

It's a long thread at about 15 pages.  Basically my setup is to apply the affinity mask in P3D.cfg @116 so cores 2-4-5-6 are used by the sim and cores 1-3-7 by addons like TrackIR5 and other apps.  Start the sim up first then the apps second where their affinity settings are configured using an app like Process Lasso.

 

It is a huge improvement over the settings I had before.  I am going to have a look at those new curved screens.  

 

Good thread.

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