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Where do you find the airport, route, etc, numbers to enter into the FMC

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I followed the tutorial just fine, but just plugged in the numbers that were already there.

 

Say I want to fly into or out of  KDFW where do I find the pertinant numbers for ILS, runway, etc?

 

Thank you.

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What about Aerosoft PFPX?

 

Once you create a flight plan with it, can you just migrate it into the 737?

 

Or do you print it out then manually add everything in?

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What you want is the approach plates, airport diagrams SIDS and STARS etc.

 

As mentioned, you can pay a subscription fee in Navigraph and also get up to date AIRAC cycles for NAVDATA.

 

You can log into Flight Aware and see what route the airlines are flying between two airports. they usually take into account weather avoidance, favorable winds aloft etc. Pretty good if you are flying with Active Sky Next or better.

 

If you don't want to pay, you can go to Airnav.com or Skyvector, and get free charts. Not worldwide though.

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Thank you, still a little lost.

OK you asked about KDFW.   Using skyvector you can view all the airport information charts. Got to the very bottom of the page and you will see them all.  https://skyvector.com/airport/DFW/Dallas-Fort-Worth-International-Airport

What about Aerosoft PFPX?

 

Once you create a flight plan with it, can you just migrate it into the 737?

 

Or do you print it out then manually add everything in?

PFPX is a great program. Thats all I use for planning. But it does not include charts. You need charts to figure out and fly the published procedures! I would highly recommend getting PFPX and Navigraph Charts.   https://www.navigraph.com/charts.aspx

 

Watch this tutorial from froogle. He does a PMDG737 flight using PFPX and Navigraph for planning the flight! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45VnTUwN6jk

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I think everyone hit on the most important links, but the importance of AIRNAV can't be stated enough- 
 

However, AIRNAV goes hand in hand with a navigraph subscription. If you put down that much money for the NGX, you really should drop the $30 or whatever it is for a monthly subscription. If you don't the up to date AIRNAV information will just confuse you because it won't match the data within the FMC.

The tutorial does a great job introducing you to programming the routes, but you will have to do some extra-curricular activities by learning more about the SIDS, STARS, and route planning.

Kyle Rodgers has some great educational videos that if you search the forums you'll find very helpful. You might want to practice making your own routes as well with the IFR charts available at skyvector... and once you're a bit more up to speed, grabbing those canned routes off flightaware will be clear as a bell. 

I've never tried PFPX, the free SIMBRIEF does a good job picking off canned routes for me, along with a real basic spreadsheet I made up (in conjunction with the FMC) provides fuel planning. 

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Kyle Rodgers has some great educational videos that if you search the forums you'll find very helpful.

 

I wouldn't really listen to that guy. He's kind of an idiot sometimes...

 

 

 


I've never tried PFPX, the free SIMBRIEF does a good job picking off canned routes for me

 

PFPX can do some weird stuff sometimes, but it gets the job done. I usually snag stuff from FlightAware where I can. If not, I'll manually map it out in PFPX. SimBrief is awesome.

 

 

Thank you, still a little lost.

 

It'll take some time. Please ensure that you put your full name - first and last - in your posts in the future. Thanks!

 

 

 

It'll take some time. Please ensure that you put your full name - first and last - in your posts in the future. Thanks!

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If you have the latest Airac from navigraph, you can very easily use flightaware.com,

been using it for years

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Sounds like you need an education in understanding how to use/read charts. Lots of good videos out there on the subject. But finding the correct one for your situation is another issue all together. Navigraph is a fantastic resource.....and besides having the latest AIRAC cycles (which is a database of navigational waypoints your FMC uses to construct your route), it also has the latest lido charts and a fantastic selection of videos on how to read and execute the charts. Of course, Navigraph charges for this service and a novice may not be ready to plunk down the cash after wiping out your bank account on the NGx. So....I recommend using Google to search for the requisite charts until you are ready for a Navigraph type service. There are plenty of charts out there.....some may be a little outdated but it shouldn't affect your simming experience. In the meantime, if you need a link to specific type of video, let me know....I'm sure I can dig something up for you.

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Sounds like you need an education in understanding how to use/read charts.

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In the meantime, if you need a link to specific type of video, let me know....I'm sure I can dig something up for you.

 

https://aviation4all.wordpress.com/jeppesen/

 

Jeppesen chart clinic is still amazing altthough some info is outdated after so many years.

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My 2 cents for having fun and keep expenses low...

 

1) Airnav for airport ICAO ids, frequencies, approach plates, SIDs and Stars. This is a website and totally free. Not great for outside US airports (for that i just google  ICAO codes and  something always comes up).

 

now airnav is updated (or updated enough) but your 737 FMC is not so you need:

 

2) Navigraph to update the AIRACs of your 737 FMC and find the same SID/STAR definitions that you find on Airnav so they speak the same language. I do the $5 subscription which is valid for only 30 days but in my opinion keeps you going well enough for few months until the discrepancies get too big then i need to update again.

 

3) finally SimBrief, which is a free too and i find it to be an awesome tool for plotting a route from A to B, print a flight plan and upload it in both FSX and Active Sky if you have it. Simbrief can be set to use the same AIRAC that you have on your FMC which is the same in Airnav so everything is in tune.

 

I have used skyvector too sometimes but i prefer SimBrief, just my personal opinion

 

i am sure there are other options that combine all the above in a single program but probably the cost more. 

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I have a plan but it has to wait until my wife and I get our new home, hopefully not longer than 90 days.

 

Until then we are too busy to do much more than run like chickens with our heads cut off.

 

But as soon as we are in our new home I will have more time to take some PDF and video tutorials and instruction.

 

I will just enjoy short 15 minute hops until then.

 

But I cannot wait until I can plan and execute a whole flight including auto landing, even go arounds etc, easily, without any input othewr than the needed numbers, and do it in a timely manner.

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including auto landing

 

You should do some research in auto landing too, its only technically allowed at certain facilities, although in the sim you can do it till your heart's content.

 

Much of the fun for me is above flying the plane... that is learning things such as when are you allowed to perform an autoland and why you would want to.

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I will just enjoy short 15 minute hops until then.

 

There are plenty of short hops flown real world by B737s tailor made for your short windows of opportunity. My favorite is LAX-LAS but there are many.

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For me the auto-landings will be for videos, and showing my friends.


I love flying totally manually too,I do lots of short hops totally hands on.

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If you fly in the US then:

 

- flightaware.com for real world routes and

- airnav.com for airport, SID and STARS charts

 

is all you need to get you started.

 

Simbrief.com also does fuel calculation for some aircrafts.

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