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Are any of you experiencing OOM's more than usual? I have only OOM'd in P3D 1 time (it was at EDDF) After than no more OOM's until this week. Within this week I have had maybe 4 OOM's? Any of you experience anything similar? I'm very curious if the Windows update has anything to do with it. Something is definately up. Since P3D v3.0 I have only had one OOM, now 4 in a row..... Im on P3D v3.4 with the latest hotfix, but the problem started even before I have applied the hotfix. 

My settings are modest, the same since V3.0.... .  
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Hello;

Are any of you experiencing OOM's more than usual? I have only OOM'd in P3D 1 time (it was at EDDF) After than no more OOM's until this week. Within this week I have had maybe 4 OOM's? Any of you experience anything similar? I'm very curious if the Windows update has anything to do with it. Something is definately up. Since P3D v3.0 I have only had one OOM, now 4 in a row..... Im on P3D v3.4 with the latest hotfix, but the problem started even before I have applied the hotfix. 

My settings are modest, the same since V3.0.... .  

Thank you

 

Look into your Prepar3D.CFG file for the parameter OPTIMIZE_PARTS in the [sIM] section. If not present, add the line OPTIMIZE_PARTS=0 (zero). If present, make sure is set to zero (=0). Particularly for P3Dv3.4, this parameter should be set to zero, as explained in another post here back in October. This should help you to gain approx 300 MB of VAS.

Please report your results.

Cheers, Ed

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It as at the cost of fsp in some complex aircraft . I found it too large a compromise. Lost 4 to 5 fsp complex aircraft and airport.

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As others already said using this parameter you need to understand what effect it will have.

 

If you fly PMDG a/c I'm not so sure you want to set this parameter to 0 since that will have a very significant impact on your FPS and it won't be a positive impact.

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One "solution" for quite a number of people has been staying/going back to previous versions of P3D such as 3.2 and 3.3 where the relation between FPS and VAS in many cases has been proven to be superior vs in the latest version of P3D (3.4x).

 

Personally I'm back using 3.2.3.16769 and it's 100% stable with zero OOM/VAS issues and the performance is great (rarely see below 30 FPS) with lots of add-ons some of them quite heavy such as:

 

  • All global Orbx stuff (FTX Global, FTX Global Vector, FTX openLC)
  • FS Global Ultimate mesh
  • PMDG NGX
  • AS16
  • FSFX Packages (immersive pack for the NGX with all effects enabled)
  • GSX
  • Lots of payware airports from Aerosoft, FT, UK2000, T2G and so on...

 

Most of the sliders in P3D with few exceptions are to the far right.

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I would love to go back to 3.2, but...but, LM doesnt give you the option and I didnt save it......  (Client) So yeah.... Im stuck. 

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Was going to do this that did not have the hotfixed version which I believe is the earliest compatible with as 2016

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I would love to go back to 3.2, but...but, LM doesnt give you the option and I didnt save it......  (Client) So yeah.... Im stuck. 

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

I guess many of us learned this lesson the hard way after version 3.4 was released. I already ventilated my personal opinion on this and won't do it again but in short I'm not particularly impressed by the way the company behind P3D is doing business and their customer service.

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Just an observation for those who use traffic optimizer . I removes the aircraft and helps with fps . If the aircraft is in your L.O.D the vas has already loaded  and does I believe not go away .

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If you fly PMDG a/c I'm not so sure you want to set this parameter to 0 since that will have a very significant impact on your FPS and it won't be a positive impact.

 

Depends. You should still try it.  I do not see any frame rate impact with any PMDG VC. Again, not many blanket statements when it comes to optimum settings for everyone.

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Depends. You should still try it.  I do not see any frame rate impact with any PMDG VC. Again, not many blanket statements when it comes to optimum settings for everyone.

 

What you say is of course true that different settings usually will give different results on different systems so trying it out will be the best thing.

 

In my case though when I tried it in the past the drop in FPS was huge (like 10-15 FPS IIRC) and I know lots of other people had the same result.

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Yes to your original question. CTD issues since a Windows 10 update last week. OOM as well but it's been tougher to tie down the source of the memory leak. This is not associated with 3.4.9 at least for me, which was running very well until recently. NVIDIA drivers updated recently as well. I'm going to roll those back and see if things improve.

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Depends. You should still try it.  I do not see any frame rate impact with any PMDG VC. Again, not many blanket statements when it comes to optimum settings for everyone.

 

Hi, I don't see any impact on FPS either on complex aircraft like the 737NGX or 777 (PMDG) with the OPTIMIZE_PARTS modification, but a lot of VAS savings. It's up to everyone to test in your own system, as optimum settings for everyone is something that never exists.

Cheers, Ed

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try disabling the car traffic completely - at least in my case this prevents the memory bleeding in version 3.4

 

Thomas

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I actually reverted back my driver to 373.XX and its much better.... . But still, even with optimize parts =0 the VAS consumption is high.... 

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I actually reverted back my driver to 373.XX and its much better.... . But still, even with optimize parts =0 the VAS consumption is high.... 

 

For some technical reason, P3Dv3.4 brought back the concerns about high VAS consumption compared to P3Dv3.0-3.3, and that seems to be a fact that I suspect we all are expecting to be solved with a new release by LM of the P3Dv3.x series or with a new P3Dv4.0 (either on 32 or 64 bit). If you have your sim constantly OOM'eing, I suspect you have something wrong with your settings (high car/AI traffic, sliders to much to the right, etc.) that you'd have to look at.

Good luck.

Cheers, Ed

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So those are mine results: 

Optimize Parts=0 results in lower VAS, but lower FPS 

Optimize Parts=1 results in MUCH higher VAS, but normal performance. 

 

I actually found that I still have v3.3 saved on my PC. My question is: Do I only need to install the client to revert back? Or do I have to Install the Content and Scenery too? Or just uninstalling the Client is enough? 

Thank you

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What you say is of course true that different settings usually will give different results on different systems so trying it out will be the best thing.

 

In my case though when I tried it in the past the drop in FPS was huge (like 10-15 FPS IIRC) and I know lots of other people had the same result.

Richard,

 

This is something I noticed...load up a heavy metal airplane with OPTIMIZE_PARTS on.  Let it sit there for one minute watching the FPS.  On my system, the frames slowly rise.  At Heathrow the 777 starts in the mid teens and goes up to 27.  Same with the A320 except a little longer, up to 25.  I guess it takes time to work.  After that it's fine.

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So those are mine results: 

Optimize Parts=0 results in lower VAS, but lower FPS 

Optimize Parts=1 results in MUCH higher VAS, but normal performance. 

 

I actually found that I still have v3.3 saved on my PC. My question is: Do I only need to install the client to revert back? Or do I have to Install the Content and Scenery too? Or just uninstalling the Client is enough? 

Thank you

 

Try this, is taken from a question about rolling back to previous versions of P3Dv3.x at the P3D forums (thanks to Elaine-Poppet):

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6322&t=122100

 

If you have third party add-ons like GSX from FSDT, I would recommend you to update the Content portion too. The Client portion is obligatory. I always upgrade Client and Content. I've never updated the Scenery portion, just because the changes on default Scenery between the P3D3.x versions are not substantial (IMHO).

 

Good luck. Cheers, Ed

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Richard,

 

This is something I noticed...load up a heavy metal airplane with OPTIMIZE_PARTS on.  Let it sit there for one minute watching the FPS.  On my system, the frames slowly rise.  At Heathrow the 777 starts in the mid teens and goes up to 27.  Same with the A320 except a little longer, up to 25.  I guess it takes time to work.  After that it's fine.

Thanks Gregg but I currently have optimize parts enabled without any VAS issues so no need for me to play around with that setting.

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Try this, is taken from a question about rolling back to previous versions of P3Dv3.x at the P3D forums (thanks to Elaine-Poppet):

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6322&t=122100

 

If you have third party add-ons like GSX from FSDT, I would recommend you to update the Content portion too. The Client portion is obligatory. I always upgrade Client and Content. I've never updated the Scenery portion, just because the changes on default Scenery between the P3D3.x versions are not substantial (IMHO).

 

Good luck. Cheers, Ed

Thank you very much!

Im on 3.3.5 now. Its nice to have a "normal" flight again. 

 

Best Regards,

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Richard,

 

This is something I noticed...load up a heavy metal airplane with OPTIMIZE_PARTS on.  Let it sit there for one minute watching the FPS.  On my system, the frames slowly rise.  At Heathrow the 777 starts in the mid teens and goes up to 27.  Same with the A320 except a little longer, up to 25.  I guess it takes time to work.  After that it's fine.

 

Think you will find that is Jetways operateing for AI. I have noticed that to really reduce VAS had to heavily reduce AI down to 5% at heathrow . Could not use Traffic manager to do this because once loaded  the vas hit was there and did not unload . Something I never had to worry about before .

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