November 23, 20169 yr Exactly, one poor component will bottleneck everything else and choke it to an almost standstill. You'd be getting the exact three symptoms you describe. A well balanced system will far outperform one with some top notch components let down by a few dogs. P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
November 24, 20169 yr Wait 2-3 months for the Z270 motherboards and Kaby Lake 7700k CPUs. If he doesn't have the budget for a 1070, he sure as hell isnt going to afford the latest cpu and motherboard P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
November 25, 20169 yr Author If he doesn't have the budget for a 1070, he sure as hell isnt going to afford the latest cpu and motherboard My reaction exactly.
November 29, 20169 yr Author It's getting close to decision time, and now comes the biggest one...I can save over €200 by dropping back to a 6600K with GTX 1050, instead of opting for the 6700 with GTX 1060. It seems that the 6600 is a good overclocker, so would this be a worthwhile saving or a false economy?
November 29, 20169 yr If this is a p3d build stuck with the 1070 | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
November 29, 20169 yr Author If this is a p3d build stuck with the 1070 Thanks...it's actually for FSX. I've mostly, but not completely, ruled our P3D. You reckon the processor would be OK though? (I assume you're referring to the GTX 1060)
November 30, 20169 yr Oh I misread your proposed GPU. I think for FSX the 1060 would be plenty assuming 1080P monitor. The 6600K would be fine too. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
November 30, 20169 yr If downgrading the SSDs to HDDs and going with a 6600K would make room in the budget for a GTX1070, I'd do that. The SSDs will only help with faster boot and startup times...the underwhelming reality of a substandard GPU will be staring you in the face every second the sim runs. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 30, 20169 yr Author Unfortunately, going down a notch with the CPU and graphics card brings the project back within budget. I still don't get to splash out on a 1070. Oh I misread your proposed GPU. I think for FSX the 1060 would be plenty assuming 1080P monitor. The 6600K would be fine too. My monitor is 1650x1050. Your own posted specs are interesting, as you have older CPU and graphics card. How is performance for you with those?
November 30, 20169 yr It's getting close to decision time, and now comes the biggest one...I can save over €200 by dropping back to a 6600K with GTX 1050, instead of opting for the 6700 with GTX 1060. It seems that the 6600 is a good overclocker, so would this be a worthwhile saving or a false economy? Is the 1050 a typo? P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
November 30, 20169 yr Author No. The advice not to use the 1050 originally appeared to be because I was pairing it with the i7 6700. I figured it would be a better fit with the 6600, especially considering that many people who list their speak here seem to be happily running 9xx cards. (Update) Ah...I think you answered that on Conzy6's thread...the 1060 is a better match for the 6600 too. I'm not deliberately being difficult about this, by the way...I'm just anxious not to overspend for the latest and greatest, if I can get acceptable performance with a more modest spec (see my OP). I'm not querying whether the 6700/1060 combination is better, I'm querying whether it's €200 worth of better.
November 30, 20169 yr Author No. The advice not to use the 1050 originally appeared to be because I was pairing it with the i7 6700. I figured it would be a better fit with the 6600, especially considering that many people who list their speak here seem to be happily running 9xx cards. (Update) Ah...I think you answered that on Conzy6's thread...the 1060 is a better match for the 6600 too. I'm not deliberately being difficult about this, by the way...I'm just anxious not to overspend for the latest and greatest, if I can get acceptable performance with a more modest spec (see my OP). I'm not querying whether the 6700/1060 combination is better, I'm querying whether it's €200 worth of better. After careful consideration, a little research and a rejig of the budget...here is what I'll be pulling the trigger on tomorrow: Case: be Quiet! Silent Base 600 Midi Tower Motherboard: GigaByte Z170-Gaming K3 Intel Z170 DDR4 ATX Processor: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0Ghz Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Graphics Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060Ti Mini 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express CPU Cooler: be Quiet! Dark Rock TF PSU: Corsair CX-M Series 650W 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular Storage: 128GB M.2 SSD for OS, 500GB Samsung EVO SSD for FSX, Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200RPM SATA HDD for everything else OS: Windows 10 Pro I hadn't planned on spending so much but I've offset some of the extra expense by trimming some non-performance-related items, e.g. case lighting, Blu-Ray burner, 2TB HDD. Putting this together has been an enjoyable experience, in a weird kind of way, and I've learned a lot from it. My thanks to everyone who helped out with their input. See you in the (hopefully faster) skies...
November 30, 20169 yr A good decision, enjoy! P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
December 5, 20169 yr I recently built a new system with the i5 6600K overclocked to 4.5ghz and I'm gettong 30 frames at aerosoft EGLL with 50% UT2 and all orbx regions in the PMDG 777. save yourself some money and buy the i5 Intel i5 6600K @4.5GHz, GTX 960 Gaming 2, Gigabyte Z170- Gaming K3, G.SKILL Ripjaws V series 8GB DDR4 2400MHz
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