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I dunno taildragger,I gather from your blog that you are also a pilot. I can't see how an Xbox 360 controller could possibly be better than the longer throw in a good joystick. I've never liked the "nubs" on any of the console controllers and can't see how I could take these input devices seriously. Honestly, I really wish the sidewinder series had not been abandonded in favor of Xbox accessories.J-

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>Honestly, I really wish the sidewinder series had not been>abandonded in favor of Xbox accessories.I hear ya, I love my sidewinder II and it still works great, just not with my current ASUS MOBO. Got a Saitek X52 and it just isn't the same.Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/mcdcvabanner.jpgCalVirAir International

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I use a Saitek P3000 wireless gamepad most of the time now. The little sticks on it are actually more sensitive than the X-45 stick with the way too strong centering spring (which I had to recently use pliers to alter a bit).I can appreciate the idea of these other controllers even though they aren't 'realistic' (who knows, maybe the next generation of real aircraft conrols will mimic these controllers to better fit in with the aquired familiarity of a whole generation of gamepad users who become pilots of the future LOL) because I like how they allow more freedom in sitting or relaxing while flight simming instead of being restricted to the usual simming position. Maybe it's my computer chair or the fact that I spend hours sitting doing watercolours a day but I started sometimes just hating sitting at my flight stick and throttle setup for too long (and I consider mine well arranged).Anyway, I like the idea of using different controllers

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In one respect I can understand xbox controllers being practical devices for flying, because I used to fly R/C and you get used to it fairly quickly, HOWEVER:I have an MS Sidewinder FF2 joystick and love it to pieces. I've had it for 4 years, still works perfectly, and I'm worried that before too much longer it will start to fail. When that happens it would be nice to have a newer model MS Sidewinder stick.Whattaya reckon Bill?

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Xbox controller and hardcore simmers, they wont hear it :D "you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink it". I think most users here wouldnt have a xbox controller, they think its a toy only for little children and could not be used for something advanced as a flightsimulator.:D

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>I gather from your blog that you are also a pilot.I am.> I can't see how an Xbox 360 controller could possibly be better than the longer throw in a good joystick.Well, it's no worse (only different) than my Sidewinder. That never felt like the stick in the J3 either but I trained myself to use it.As for the long throw, you should ask a F-16 pilot. I think their sidestick control only deflects about an inch from center.

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<>I'd try to find a spare now (eBay?) for when the time comes.

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HiI have an MS Sidewinder FF joystick for 6 years now and love it Still works perfectly so I'll stick with this one.Stelios

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"As for the long throw, you should ask a F-16 pilot. I think their sidestick control only deflects about an inch from center."Indeed. A couple of years ago, I had the opportunity to fly one of the Air Force's F-16 simulators at Hill Air Force Base, here in Utah. The stick doesn't move very much at all. It was quite a difference from the standard PC joystick.

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"I think most users here wouldnt have a xbox controller, they think its a toy only for little children and could not be used for something advanced as a flightsimulator."-------------Of course there are tons of non-simming people who would see grown adults sitting at computers 'playing with planes' as being like children with toys hahaha. So I guess it's all just relative.

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>In case you missed it:>http://blogs.msdn.com/tdragger/archive/200.../17/513958.aspx.>Well I noticed during the video of the FSX presentation that the speaker was a using an XBOX 360 controller to fly the Jet Ranger and he appeared to do so quite easily. I'll stick with my CH HOTAS and Vmax yoke for flying but may get one to simulate RC flight and play my other games.

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OHN if Microsoft came out with a Yoke and Peddles comparable to CH Products offerings I might give it a look. It's already a travesty some are still using joysticks to fly Cessna's, Beech Baron's, and 747s. Joysticks do work well on aircraft such as Helo's, Airbuses, or RealAir

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Let me just say that if you like X-Boxes, it's still perfectly fine to fly IRL. I liked PS2's before I started flying. You don't need a "1337 hardkore" setup with a yoke and pedals to be serious about flight simming.

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Hello All, Well, I guess there is a difference between serious simmers, half serious simmers and just FS fans.When I first started with FS, it was a toy, sort of fun, and any old joystick would do. (I think the computer was a 25 mhz including the 'turbo' button on LOL) As most of you know, I'm a real world pilot with a ton of heavy iron experience -- so it WAS a toy. Then FS got better, and I started to look at it as more than a toy. Around the time FS5 came out, I decided that flying heavy stuff, (yes, we did have a few freeware developers back then who did great stuff), I decided that a joystick just wasn't cutting it any longer, so I got a CH yoke and pedals. Although it wasn't that close to the real thing, it WAS better than trying to fly a 737 or such with a joystick. PLEASE, joystick users, no flames, I'm not slamming you, just making a point that for ME, it just didn't feel right.At FS 98 time, I bit the bullet and bought an AETI desk yoke, this was made for them by Percision Flight controls, I've used it almost every day since then and it is still the same today in every respect--what a quality piece of equipment and worth every dime. Now that was getting pretty close, in fact, it mimicked my old Cessna 421's yoke pretty well -- (they styled this yoke after a SAAB 340 I believe). Later on came the go flight stuff, and the two different throttles, for turbo props and 2-3-4- engined jets. And of course, I have a ton of bucks in all this equipment, not to mention all the millions of dollars LOL of software I've bought for FS since day one. Any of you guys remember how thrilled we were when Flight Shop came out and you could really build a neat aircraft? Now, I am not close to a home cockpit, I can't see myself doing that, however, I have three computers running 7 monitors, all hooked up to FS because I like the different views and Nav programs. And because of all that, I HAVE to make the right amount of time to fly as it is an ordeal to get everything fired up, in sync with each other and then do the flight. Nothing is more frustrating than to go through the 15 min set up and have some darned aircraft or scenery crash FS . . .grrrrrrrrCould I go back to just a joystick? Nope, I'd have to quit first, as all this good stuff has spoiled me. At the same time, it has given me a ton of enjoyment, and also frustrations, (why all of a sudden did the fps's fall down? thats the Flight simmers nightmare) but it keeps me busy and off the streets, and makes my wife a FS Widow LOL. It also has made me spend a ton of money on computers, never handing down the old one, just adding it to the FS nightmare of wiring, boards and monitors! Yeah, ok, I'm obsessed!BestClayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

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"You don't need a "1337 hardkore" setup with a yoke and pedals to be serious about flight simming."I beg to differ depending on how you use FS and if you

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We had simulators of F/A-18's that I had the chance to fly numerous times when I was stationed in NAS Lemoore CA (VFA-94). You get allot more slack with a conventional stick but in the air the F/A-18 is still touchy. I love the way the seat in the F-16 recline back. It's like you

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"A joystick never worked for me after I started flight lessons."---------Of course a yoke won't be very authentic if one flies old biplanes or others which have a stick in real life. Is a simmer who uses a yoke flying those planes as "not serious" as one who uses a joystick to fly a plane which has a yoke in real life?----------------"I guess there is a difference between serious simmers, half serious simmers and just FS fans"------------------Is there a list somewhere which can be used for judging various types of simmers and where they belong in the hierarchy of "simming seriousness".In the end, it matters little except whether one gets something out of it they want.

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"Although it wasn't that close to the real thing, it WAS better than trying to fly a 737 or such with a joystick. PLEASE, joystick users, no flames, I'm not slamming you, just making a point that for ME, it just didn't feel right."I guess Airbus pilots would feel right at home, though :)Great post, thanks Clay!-John

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