July 12, 20178 yr Hello all, Wondering whether anybody has come across some decent smooth-acting freeware gauges at all? I'm in the process of putting together an instrument training course (delivered in shared cockpit) and although the default Baron gauges are OK, the movement of the artificial horizon in particular doesn't exactly lend itself to smooth and accurate flying! If anybody is aware of anything I'd be interested to know. Obviously the RealityXP stuff is great, but they are payware and I can't expect/demand that all our students purchase them -- so I'm really looking for freeware, if such a thing exists. Thanks in advance! Simon Kelsey
July 12, 20178 yr Havre you tried Just Flight's Freemium 757? The gauges seem pretty smooth on that, although it's somewhat larger and different to a Baron.. :( Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
July 12, 20178 yr Administrators Actually it would be nice to know if you are looking for mechanical gauges like you mentioned with the default Baron 58 or something along the line of G1000 digital displays. Artificial Horizon only or all of the accompanying gauges? Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
July 12, 20178 yr Author 9 minutes ago, charliearon said: Actually it would be nice to know if you are looking for mechanical gauges like you mentioned with the default Baron 58 or something along the line of G1000 digital displays. Artificial Horizon only or all of the accompanying gauges? Sorry, yes, I should have been clearer! I am ideally looking for something to replace/upgrade the gauges in the default Baron 58 as this is the aircraft we are using for the course (partially because it is a requirement of the VATSIM P5 rating that we use a light twin). Very much a fan of 'steam' gauges as I think they promote development of a much better scan compared to glass! I'm particularly looking for an AH as this is especially ropey -- but certainly if there were smoother versions of the accompanying "big six" out there I would be very interested (an altimeter with hPa scale would be a bonus as well!). 45 minutes ago, HighBypass said: Havre you tried Just Flight's Freemium 757? The gauges seem pretty smooth on that, although it's somewhat larger and different to a Baron.. :( I have got it somewhere -- I will have to dig it out and have a play with it as you have mentioned it! As you say, not really suitable for this particular course but it may come in useful in the future. Thanks for the suggestions! Simon Kelsey
July 12, 20178 yr Administrators Would you be using the Baron's 2D panel or the VC which is much more difficult swapping out gauges? Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
July 12, 20178 yr Author I suspect most of our students will be inclined to use the VC -- but saying that a 2D "IFR panel" that fills the screen would also work very well. Saying that, if suitable gauges can be found, swapping gauges in the VC is reasonably straightforward in my experience -- simply a case of an edit to the panel.cfg file in the [VCockpit] section, ensuring that the dimensions of the new gauge match (or are massaged to match). I have used this technique in the past to swap out the default Cessna altimeter gauge with one with a sub-scale graduated in hPa, and a glance at the default Baron's panel.cfg suggests that the main instruments all have their own separate entries so I would hope any edit would be reasonably straightforward there. Simon Kelsey
July 12, 20178 yr Personally, if it is FSX (non SE).. I would recommend RXP FLT gauges for ultimate fidelity. Yes, they cost something, but the best things often are not free.. Bert
July 13, 20178 yr Any 2D gauge is limited to a maximum refresh rate of 18 Hz. No exceptions. The only workaround is using a model with 3D modeled gauges in the virtual cockpit and flying it from there. 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
July 13, 20178 yr Not sure how RXP does it, but their FLT gauges are super smooth (and high resolution).. http://reality-xp.com/flightsim/flt/features/index.html Bert
July 13, 20178 yr Author 17 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: the best things often are not free.. Very true Bert! Unfortunately it appears from a glance at the RXP forum that the FLT gauges don't currently play nicely with Windows 10 x64, otherwise I'd probably buy them for myself and encourage our students looking for greater fidelity to do the same (although would have to see whether they play nicely in shared cockpit). However I will keep an eye on future developments. I shall keep looking! The default gauges are just about acceptable, but I was just looking to see whether there was anything out there that might enhance our students' experience. Thanks for the suggestions thus far! Simon Kelsey
July 13, 20178 yr Administrators I might try some quick changes to the Baron. The only thing I can think of is to try some of the other default aircraft like the 208 Caravan or similar. Most 3rd party freeware developers tend to use default gauges as well. I found very limited freeware gauges available. Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
July 13, 20178 yr I am missing the RXP gauges myself, as I take my first steps with P3DV4 where they are not supported.. The default Baron gauges are not that bad.. but for ultimate fidelity, several real pilot friends who wanted to recreate their personal airplane cockpit have followed my lead in installing the rxp flt/fln gauges, (mostly into a Carenado C182Q which has a lot of room for customization). Windows 7 is still my OS of choice Bert
July 13, 20178 yr Administrators Well, after looking at all of the default piston prop aircraft panels I decided this was the best choice for a replacement attitude indicator for the Baron. It's from the King Air and yes, I know it's not exactly a mechanical "steam gauge" but it operated very smoothly, which is what you were looking for. Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
July 13, 20178 yr Author Thanks Charlie, that's very helpful! I'll have an experiment. No issue with a glass ADI -- what I didn't want was a G1000 style full glass cockpit with speed and altitude tapes etc. Having a smoother ADI however should provide for much more precise control 'under the hood', which is the main thing. Thank you! Simon Kelsey
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