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After upgrading to P3Dv4 I found some of the things I would like to enable such as dynamic reflections, different kind of shadows etc have a rather severe hit on FPS.

For this reason I'm playing with the thought of replacing my current 980Ti with a 1080Ti since most of these options are dependent on your GPU the way I've understood it.

My current system spec is a 6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 @ 3000 MHz and the 980Ti.

Anyone else with a similar spec already did this upgrade and can share the experience? 

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Unless you have money to burn I would sit tight and hope that Volta will get a pre-Xmas release.

gb.

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Read up a bit on the upcoming Volta and from the information I was able to gather it seems rather unlikely we will see it before early 2018 at best.

Also like always we will most probably first see the reference cards and then it will be even some more time waiting until we'll be able to buy an aftermarket version from the known brands such as MSI etc meaning we might end up in mid 2018.

With this said and a nice aftermarket card based on Volta possibly almost a year away I personally think I'll go for a 1080Ti while waiting. However that will only be of interest if I know the improvement over my current 980Ti would be significant allowing me to enjoy P3Dv4 in all its glory in a way I can't with my 980Ti.

So again, if anyone is reading this who already replaced their 980Ti with a 1080Ti could share the experience and result it would be most welcome and appreciated!

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980ti -> 1080ti here with a similar system (my specs on sig) What can i tell you... 1080ti is a huge card for general gaming(especially VR), for flight simming not as much... if you are going to see improvements!? yes you are...big improvements!? no! you still going to need to lock the frames to 30fps /30hz to get a smooth flying expirience without fps floating, the diference is now you can go higher with your game settings, i have almost all settings on max in 4k, nevertheless im getting random stutters that im trying to solve...it's very important what resolution do you use, less that 1440p doesnt worth the change.

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Thanks a lot for the input!

Should of course have mentioned I'm running P3D in 4K.

I'm actually quite happy with the performance I already got and I rarely see any stutters or other kind of issues related to performance. My problem is more as mentioned above that I noticed there are a couple of options/settings I can't enable/increase the way I would like without taking a hard hit from a FPS perspective.

So after reading your post where you're saying you have most options enabled and/or to the far right, that sounds promising and especially so if you were not able to use these same settings with your 980Ti.

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I understand, we always want to go a little higher, from what im experiencing my first advice would be if you are happy with the performance stay stiil and do nothing :)...but it's all about you wallet, 1080ti it's not cheap, you have to decide if it's worth the money just to get a slight improvement in P3D...if you play other games in 4k i would say go for it, 1080ti is a fuc*ing monster ;)

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I had two 1070's in SLI and switched to a 1080TI.  I saw a significant difference with respect to LOD radius, dynamic lighting, etc. My quality and performance were very good with the 1070's but I still feel the upgrade cost was worth it.

Vic

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21 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

I had two 1070's in SLI and switched to a 1080TI.  I saw a significant difference with respect to LOD radius, dynamic lighting, etc. My quality and performance were very good with the 1070's but I still feel the upgrade cost was worth it.

Vic

Thanks for the input Vic, sounds great!

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You cannot go wrong with the ti Richard - that card is a beast!

Vic

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I  moved from 980Ti to 1080Ti last Wednesday and after a week of simming with 1080Ti here is my personal assessment (I have i7-6700k@4.7 16GB DDR2400, 2TB SSD)

1. I won't see see massive overall FPS increase in heavy airports such as EGLL/KJFK, perfhaps +2/4 depending on a overall set-up

2. HOWEVER, you will notice dramatic improvement in performance with regard to DL and multylayer overcast.

 

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Thanks for the input and this is expected I think how your FPS itself will not increase much if anything but how you on the other hand will be able to use things such as dynamic lighting, shadows, reflections etc without taking that much of an FPS hit.

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For what its worth I upgrade recently from a 1060 to a 1080 TI. I found frames went up a little but not as much as I was expecting I run in 4K. What I do like about this card is that even in hard areas it has the muscle to plow thru it even if your frames are low you don't notice it. As far as DL in 4K its a killer even for the 1080TI I not willing to use anything less than 4 or 8x scaa so for now DL is turned off. To me DL it isn't worth the performance hit.  Is it worth the price of $800 I dont know its hard one. If you do I'm sure you will be happy but don't expect everything.

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14 minutes ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

For what its worth I upgrade recently from a 1060 to a 1080 TI. I found frames went up a little but not as much as I was expecting I run in 4K. What I do like about this card is that even in hard areas it has the muscle to plow thru it even if your frames are low you don't notice it.  Is it worth the price of $800 I dont know its hard one. If you do I'm sure you will be happy but don't expect everything.

Thanks for the advice and just like you say I think you should not expect too much and really know this is something you want to do. If not you'll risk ending up disappointed.

For this reason I'll wait until the store I buy most stuff from will have it in stock which should be within a week or two. Buying from that store I know I'll be able to try the card out and take it back if I'm not happy enough with the improvement over my current 980Ti.

That way I don't risk spending money on something I'll regret and this will also give me some more time playing around in P3Dv4 and all its settings using my current 980Ti.

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1 minute ago, WebMaximus said:

Thanks for the advice and just like you say I think you should not expect too much and really know this is something you want to do. If not you'll risk ending up disappointed.

For this reason I'll wait until the store I buy most stuff from will have it in stock which should be within a week or two. Buying from that store I know I'll be able to try the card out and take it back if I'm not happy enough with the improvement over my current 980Ti.

That way I don't risk spending money on something I'll regret and this will also give me some more time playing around in P3Dv4 and all its settings using my current 980Ti.

Just be sure your store will take the return as allot of retalires wont give you a refund on video cards because of bit mining.

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9 minutes ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

Just be sure your store will take the return as allot of retalires wont give you a refund on video cards because of bit mining.

Will do but I'm fairly positive it won't be an issue. This store is pretty incredible when it comes to their return policy which pretty much is the customer should always be 100% satisfied and if not be able to return the product regardless what kind of product it is and even after trying it out. They will then sell any returned products with a 10% discount.

I remember when I was shopping for a new CPU and trying to find a specific batch hoping that would increase my chances a bit finding a good one for overclocking. When I was in the store asking the guy to look for this specific batch he did find a CPU from the batch I was looking for but he also added that if I had the money I could buy one CPU from each batch he had in stock and keep the one that performed best and return the rest :biggrin:

Sometimes you can't help questioning if this almost too kind approach towards their customers really is profitable but I guess it is or they wouldn't stick to this policy. Take me as an example. I will happily wait for this store to have this graphics card in stock and buy it from them even when I could get the card already today on my way back home from work from someone else. This because I know about their generous policies and how you are always met by their super friendly staff.

Now that is a winning concept for sure and those 10% they loose when I buy something I decide to return for whatever reason they will win back tenfold in the long run since I'm always buying all my stuff from them rather than from someone else. And I'm sure I'm not the only one so do the math...

Sorry for derailing, just came to think of this but back on topic!

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So I've now done some testing with my 980Ti in P3Dv4 and overall I'm quite happy with the performance where I get somewhere between 40-50 FPS and very smooth operation during daytime in the NGX with all the normal add-ons such as the global Orbx products, AS weather, complex payware airports etc.

What I did notice though is when it gets dark and the lights kick in both at the airports but especially when using the aircraft lights (taxi, landing, runway turnoff lights etc) my FPS drops to low 20 or even just below 20 FPS at times.

This makes me wonder if a 1080 Ti would improve this situation and by how much.

Of course I can start lowering some of the settings or make a profile specific for night time flying. However I really don't want to do this and I would be happy to pay my way out of this situation. But only if I know throwing money on the issue would really sort it.

I don't expect miracles and I realize night time flying with all lights will on will of course decrease the performance no matter what hardware you're using. However if a 1080 Ti would allow me to have around 30 FPS rather than 20 in the situation above I would find it worth it.

Anyone in here knows how much effect the GPU has when it comes to lights and by how much the FPS would likely be improved by replacing a 980 Ti with a 1080 Ti?

I think I already mentioned it but I'm running my sim in 4K.

Still waiting for my favorite store to have the 1080 Ti's in stock but right now after seeing this poor performance during night I'm very tempted to get a 1080 Ti already today but then it won't be from a store where I can return the card should I want to. On the other hand, if I'm close to certain it would improve this situation to the better with a clear margin I might as well get the new GPU from anywhere since I'm sure it would be a keeper.

Sorry for the wall of text consisting of nothing but my thought around this. Just felt like getting some of all these thoughts out of my head and maybe have some valuable input from you guys.

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FYI - Below are the settings I'm currently settled with for P3Dv4 and FTX Vector.

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14 hours ago, WebMaximus said:

What I did notice though is when it gets dark and the lights kick in both at the airports but especially when using the aircraft lights (taxi, landing, runway turnoff lights etc) my FPS drops to low 20 or even just below 20 FPS at times.

Do you get the same drop with Dynamic Lighting turned off?

gb.

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8 hours ago, gboz said:

Do you get the same drop with Dynamic Lighting turned off?

gb.

Nope, if I disable dynamic lighting I don't get the drop but as a side-effect the lights in the NGX don't work anymore.

So do you think a 1080Ti would handle dynamic lighting better than my 980Ti because to me that seems like the kind of effect handled by the GPU? 

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13 hours ago, WebMaximus said:

So do you think a 1080Ti would handle dynamic lighting better than my 980Ti because to me that seems like the kind of effect handled by the GPU? 

Well yes that's my understanding.

What cpu/overclock are you running there?

gb.

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I'm running a 6700K at 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 MHz RAM and now a 1080Ti and can confirm the FPS drop I noticed with my 980Ti with dynamic lighting enabled is no longer there.

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