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I have updated my previous 690B mod to include a proper startup and shutdown sequence with XMLTools.

Please PM me for a download link. 

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For those of you who downloaded the mod, there was an error that wouldn't allow the engines to start.  Please re-download. 

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Hi whamil77! Hard work lately, no? :laugh:. Please send me the updated mods. PM sent. Are they for the DASH TEN (-10) turbines?

 

Best Regards,

Roberto

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44 minutes ago, Ralvarez232 said:

Hi whamil77! Hard work lately, no? :laugh:. Please send me the updated mods. PM sent. Are they for the DASH TEN (-10) turbines?

 

Best Regards,

Roberto

Both the -8 and the -10 engines are included in the mod. 

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Thank you, sir!

Another fine mod to fix our Carenado birds. You should be paid "shop hour" wages for being our virtual A/P mechanic for Carenado turbines.

Thanks again! :-)

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A couple of folks have reported some problems with the mods.  They were easy fixes, so please let me know if you are having problems.  Systems are different and there are some things I don't see until somebody else points it out.  Also, as my AVSIM inbox begins to fill, please PM me your emails so I can create a group and send updates. 

Regards,

Bill

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Very nice mods!. That's the fun about Carenado airplanes, there's is always something that needs to be added/changed for them to work properly!.

Thanks to Bill for the excellent work.

Cheers, Ed

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A question has arisen about the start sequence.  Here is a synopsis.

1.  Throttle in the idle position (not in reverse and not forward of idle).

2.  Propeller levers in the full minimum position (full aft but not in emergency cutoff).  This is critical.  The start sequence will not operate properly if the prop levers aren't reporting very close to 0.0.  Make sure your controller is properly calibrated, preferably in FSUIPC.

3.  Mixture levers full rich (full forward).

4.  Take the engine start switch to start.  The start sequence is automatic just like in the RW airplane. 

 

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3 hours ago, whamil77 said:

1.  Throttle in the idle position (not in reverse and not forward of idle).

2.  Propeller levers in the full minimum position (full aft but not in emergency cutoff).  This is critical.  The start sequence will not operate properly if the prop levers aren't reporting very close to 0.0.  Make sure your controller is properly calibrated, preferably in FSUIPC.

3.  Mixture levers full rich (full forward).

This is apparently for the 500 not the 690 as there are no throttles, propeller levers or mixture levers in a 690.  Only power levers and condition levers. 

Note that on a Garrett engine the prop and condition levers are tied together. If the condition levers are in a low position the props are as well, same goes for the high position.

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Hi Whamill, many thanks for the great job. 

In my case I have to bring the engine control knobs back to air start position to have the engines spool up above 14%, which is not correct.

Is this one of the possible glitches you talked above?

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1 hour ago, Olivier_Moens said:

In my case I have to bring the engine control knobs back to air start position to have the engines spool up above 14%, which is not correct.

What are the 'engine control knobs' and where is their 'air start' position?

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Engine control switch, (not knob, sorry) the big black rotating switches on the overhead. The ones used to start the engines ;-)

Positions are eng off, fuel pump on, air start run, ground start run.

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17 hours ago, J35OE said:

This is apparently for the 500 not the 690 as there are no throttles, propeller levers or mixture levers in a 690.  Only power levers and condition levers. 

Note that on a Garrett engine the prop and condition levers are tied together. If the condition levers are in a low position the props are as well, same goes for the high position.

I get all that in the RW.  Unfortunately it has little bearing on how P3D and Carenado codes their airplanes.  Users most often have hardware controls for throttle, props, and mixture.  FSX/P3D provides provisions only for free turbine turboprop engines (PT-6), which have throttles (power levers) prop controls and mixture controls (condition levers).  Carenado, or any other developer, has to program the mixture control to work independently on direct drive engines because there is not actually a mixture control in the VC and there is a variable relationship between mixture, power, and propeller controls in the code (condition lever simulation).  Users could simply remove any assignment to hardware mixture controls and the 690B would work just fine.  But not everyone uses FSUIPC or some other module that allows aircraft specific assignments.  If the hardware mixture levers are assigned to mixture control with the 690B as the user aircraft, the mixture levers must be in the full rich position otherwise the engines will shut themselves down within about 30-60 seconds after start.  This is because the mixture and fuel flow is being manipulated and controlled within the 18Hz code.  If the engines are left at a constant power setting for an extended period of time such as idle after start while completing other tasks, the code gets a rest from the mixture and fuel flow manipulation.  If the hardware mixture levers are assigned to the mixture control function and are left in the cutoff position, that position is seen by the main FSX/P3D programming during the period when the 18Hz code is resting, resulting in engine shutdown.   

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I see. It would have been a good idea to mention that you meant the hardware throttle, prop, mixture, as this was confusing :wink:.

If the hardware mixture is set to max, do you still get the correct low RPM like with the condition levers at low in the VC (without hardware mixture)?

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7 minutes ago, J35OE said:

I see. It would have been a good idea to mention that you meant the hardware throttle, prop, mixture, as this was confusing :wink:.

If the hardware mixture is set to max, do you still get the correct low RPM like with the condition levers at low in the VC (without hardware mixture)?

Yes.  As long as the hardware mixture is set to pretty much anything except cut-off the condition levers work properly.  I just recommend full rich to alleviate ANY problems with inadvertent shutdowns. 

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