January 3, 20188 yr Hi guys, It's been a while since I was on this forum and I recently installed P3D V4.1 on a clean SSD with all updated addons etc... I've been having a tiny issue which is a LOT worse when on the ground, but I expect this is due to the scenery I have installed etc... however one thing that is bugging me right now is the stuttering / laggy mouse effect whilst in the air as well as on the ground. Previously, this never happened once I was up in the air at cruise, however it has just started happening regardless of where I am. I would post a video example of this but I'm not sure if this is allowed on here - please let me know if it is and I will edit this post with the video attached showing the problem, and my in-sim sliders as it might be easier for people to identify the issue from there. For reference, my P3D cfg is below as well: [GRAPHICS] SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10 VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=720 VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=480 VIDEO_CAPTURE_FPS=30 VIDEO_CAPTURE_BIT_RATE=3200000 VIDEO_CAPTURE_IS_THREADED=True VIDEO_CAPTURE_INFO_SEND_RATE=20 VIDEO_CAPTURE_MAX_FRAME_SIZE=500000 VIDEO_CAPTURE_TTL=255 HDR_BRIGHTNESS=1.200000 HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000 HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.300000 HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000 TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000 TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.130000 HDR_SATURATION=1.100000 MAX_POINT_LIGHTS=250 MAX_SPOT_LIGHTS=250 ViewGroup_Number=-1 MAP_DRAW_THREADED=1 MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024 NUM_LIGHTS=4 COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1 AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 LANDING_LIGHTS=1 DYNAMIC_LIGHTING=1 DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1 LENSFLARE=0 HDR=1 DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0 SHADOW_QUALITY=2 SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=1 CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0 INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=0 EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1 SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0 TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0 VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0 BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0 CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=1 PARTICLES_SHADOWS_CAST=0 INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0 SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0 TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12 OPAQUE_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048 TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512 OPAQUE_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000 TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000 EFFECTS_QUALITY=1 EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1 TEXTURE_QUALITY=3 IMAGE_QUALITY=0 See_Self=1 Text_Scroll=1 TESSELLATION=1 CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=6 TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=5 OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=4 CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=256 [WEATHER] CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0 MinGustTime=10 MaxGustTime=500 MinGustRampSpeed=1 MaxGustRampSpeed=200 MinVarTime=5 MaxVarTime=50 MinVarRampSpeed=10 MaxVarRampSpeed=75 TurbulenceScale=1.000000 WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0 AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1 DynamicWeather=0 DownloadWindsAloft=0 DisableTurbulence=0 CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6 DETAILED_CLOUDS=1 OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0 CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8 THERMAL_VISUALS=0 VolumetricFog=1 DetailedPrecipitation=1 WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1 [DISPLAY] TextureMaxLoad=33 ChangeTime=4.000000 TransitionTime=4.000000 TEXTURE_FILTERING=8 MSAA=4 SSAA=0 VSYNC=1 FXAA=1 TRIPLE_BUFFER=1 SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120 UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=59 WideViewAspect=False FullScreenBackground=False FullScreenAutoFill=True ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64 NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64 InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser=255,0,0 InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser=255,127,0 InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0 InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoBrakesEnable=True InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True InfoPauseEnable=True InfoSlewEnable=True InfoStallEnable=True InfoOverspeedEnable=True InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True InfoCountermeasureEnable=True InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True Fullscreen=True [SCENERY] AUTOGEN_DRAW_DISTANCE=18000.000000 AUTOGEN_TREE_DRAW_DISTANCE_PERCENT=0.900000 AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000 MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=16 POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1 AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2 AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_TYPE=0 IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4 [MAIN] User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter Location=0,0,1920,1080,\\.\DISPLAY1 ShowInfoText=0 Maximized=1 HideMenuNormal=0 HideMenuFullscreen=1 LocationFullScreen=0,0,1920,1080,\\.\DISPLAY1 [PANELS] IMAGE_QUALITY=1 SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0 MAX_VC_TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=4096 PANEL_OPACITY=100 QUICKTIPS=0 PANEL_MASKING=1 PANEL_STRETCHING=1 UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0 PANELS_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1 [CONTROLS] Controls_Default=Standard Controls_Current=Standard KBDAIL=64 KBDELEV=64 KBDRUD=64 [TextInfo.1] Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 AirSpeed=1,5 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 [TextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 GForce=1,3 FuelPercentage=1,4 HealthPoints=1,5 [TextInfo.3] Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 AirSpeed=1,5 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 FrameRate=2,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 GForce=2,3 FuelPercentage=2,4 HealthPoints=2,5 [SlewTextInfo.1] Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 AirSpeed=1,5 [SlewTextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 HealthPoints=1,3 [SlewTextInfo.3] Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 AirSpeed=1,5 FrameRate=2,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 HealthPoints=2,3 [Avatar] DefaultAvatar=Army Infantry [DynamicHeadMovement] LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000 LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000 RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000 YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000 RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000 MaxHeadAngle=5.000000 MaxHeadOffset=0.300000 HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000 [VirtualCopilot] VirtualCopilotActive=0 [USERINTERFACE] RestoreTimeOnMove=1 SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1 BroadcastGPSData=0 MUTE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0 PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0 PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1 ScreenshotImageFormat=2 SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0 Map_Orientation=2 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980.0.0] Mode=1920x1080x32 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980.0.1] Mode=1920x1080x32 [DEBUG] ScenarioErrorReporting=0 [SOUND] SOUND_FADER1=0.400000 SOUND_FADER2=0.350000 SOUND_FADER3=0.250000 SOUND_FADER4=0.500000 SOUND=1 SOUND_QUALITY=2 SOUND_LOD=0 PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} [TrafficManager] AirlineDensity=0 GADensity=0 FreewayDensity=0 ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0 LeisureBoatsDensity=0 IFROnly=0 AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=4 [AContain] ShowLabels=0 ShowUserLabel=0 ShowLabelManufacturer=1 ShowLabelModel=1 ShowLabelTailNumber=0 ShowLabelDistance=1 ShowLabelAltitude=1 ShowLabelAirline=0 ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0 ShowLabelFlightPlan=0 ShowLabelContainerId=0 ShowLabelAirspeed=0 ShowLabelHeading=0 LabelDelay=1000 LabelColor=FFFF0000 EnableRibbonVisuals=0 ShowRibbonUserObject=0 ShowRibbonUserAvatar=0 ShowRibbonAircraft=0 ShowRibbonGroundVehicles=0 ShowRibbonBoats=0 ShowRibbonAvatars=0 ShowRibbonWeapons=0 ShowRibbonCountermeasures=0 UserObjectRibbonColor=FFFF0000 UserAvatarRibbonColor=FFFF8000 AircraftRibbonColor=FF0000FF GroundVehicleRibbonColor=FF00FF00 BoatRibbonColor=FF00FFFF AvatarRibbonColor=FFFFFF00 WeaponRibbonColor=FF800000 CountermeasureRibbonColor=FF640080 RibbonFidelity=5.000000 RibbonMaxDistance=3218.689941 [TERRAIN] LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 TESSELLATION_FACTOR=75 MESH_RESOLUTION=21 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25 AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=4 AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=4 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1 WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=0 WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1 WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0 WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0 WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0 WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0 WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0 WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0 WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0 WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0 WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0 WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0 ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0 WATER_CLARITY=30 WATER_DETAIL=1 UseGlobalTerrainView=False [ATC] AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1 UsePilotVoice=1 ShowATCText=1 PilotVoice=0 COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00 COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400 COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000 [INTERNATIONAL] ASLAT=2 ASLON=1 MEASURE=0 [REALISM] PFactor=1.000000 Torque=1.000000 GyroEffect=1.000000 CrashTolerance=1.000000 General=1.000000 UnlimitedFuel=False AllowEngineDamage=True TrueAirspeed=False AutoCoord=False RealMixture=True StressDamage=True GEffect=False ManualLights=True GyroDrift=False CrashWithDyn=True CrashDetection=False AvatarNoCollision=True OnCrashAction=0 [ATTACHMENTS] WeaponHighlight=False HighlightDuration=1.000000 AutoWeaponSwitching=False UnlimitedWeapons=False UnlimitedCountermeasures=False IgnoreAttachmentWeight=True IgnoreAttachmentForces=True [RECORDER] RecordAITraffic=True RecordAirportVehicles=True RecordLeisureBoats=True [SIM] SYSCLOCK=1 OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1 [STARTUP] DEMO=0 STARTUP_DEMO= LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1 LoadCorePlugins=1 LoadVirtualReality=1 EnableVirtualRealityOnStartup=0 LoadWindow=1 [PointOfInterestSystem] CycleSetting=0 [FACILITIES] COUNTRY= STATE= CITY= GTL_BUTTON=4096 [MISC] Com_Rate=7 [MULTIPLAYER] FrameSyncRate=0 Just for reference, I am using the following addons and the following Hardware: FTX Global Base FTX EU REX Textures and Soft Clouds GSX EZDOK Active Sky Next PMDG 737-800 PMDG 777-200 Base Pack HARDWARE: Microsoft Windows 10-Pro - Fully updated SSD for Windows and a Separate, individual SSD for P3D and all addons / scenery Intel Core i7 4790K Running at 4GHz 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPU At the moment, I dont have any overclocks on the system. I am trying to run everything at its factory recommended maximum settings to preserve hardware life etc... I also don't have any other modifications such as in NVIDIA's control panel, since these have not made any difference as expected to the performance for me. If anyone is able to provide some suggestions from the above I'd be really grateful! Let me know if you would like a link to the video I have showing the problem and showing my in-sim sliders. Regards, Yorkie
January 3, 20188 yr Commercial Member I would suggest to make a backup of your P3D.cfg, delete it and let the system rebuild a fresh one and test if the problem persist? if it doesn't you can start debugging which setting caused the problem on the first place, if it persist you can restore it back and concentrate on something else. Also try connecting the mouse on a different USB Port, sometimes the simplest solution is what works! Regards, Simbol Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
January 3, 20188 yr What addons you using? Ni inspector? Running 4k? What gfx card? Using ut2 or ut2 live?? What size cloud textures? What monitor resolution? Gsync and free sync?? (I've just gone through this, and all of the above can cause stutters)
January 3, 20188 yr Author Hi guys, Thanks very much for the answers there! I decided to delete my CFG file and start again, and reduced some of my sliders ever so slightly. This seems to have fixed the problem for now. It's just a wonder that it caused so much lag when I essentially had the same installed in V3 etc... I guess LM might release an update of some sort soon that targets performance a little more, and I've noticed quite a few people mentioning lag problems similar to mine with 4.1. Thanks again guys, I can say the problem, for now at least, is solved! --Yorkie
January 3, 20188 yr I was going to suggest the same as @simbol above (delete the config and let it rebuild) as I tried to do a comparison to my P3D.cfg and yours was not even close to having the same parameters in the order as mine and I think it somehow got corrupted. Hopefully, if you ever open up your config, you use Notepad++ as I think any other program will cause corruption as it has to be coded properly. If I ever have issues with P3D that I have not seen before, I immediately open up the Addon Organizer from Lorby_Si and click on the button to check whether my configs and xml's are properly coded. If it shows my P3D.cfg is not coded properly, I'll rebuild it. Things are better after that. Rebuilding the P3D.cfg is the number one fix for any issues you get with P3DV4. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
January 3, 20188 yr Those autogen settings were really high for your system. Known to cause stutters and low FPS when all the scenery threads are maxed out and drawing calls to the main thread. Shanan ASUS Z170 PRO, I7 6700K @ 4.85ghz (HT ON), ZOTAC AMP EXTREME 1080TI GTX (OC), 16 GB DDR4 G.SKILL TRIDENTZ RGB @ 3230MHZ CL 16-17-17-33 (OC) 4X SSDS : WIN 10 (NVME 960 EVO) + P3D + OTHER GAMES, 2X WD BLACKS RAID 0 + 1 SEAGATE BARRACUDA, CORSAIR AX860i PSU, CORSAIR 760T CASE (BLACK), 27 INCH IPS PREDATOR GSYNC 165HZ 1440p + 24 INCH IPS DELL 1080p, THRUSTMASTER HOTAS FCS THROTTLE + FCS16000M CORSAIR K95 RGB + CORSAIR M65 RGB + CORSAIR MM800 POLARIS RGB, CORSAIR H115i v2, CREATIVE GIGAWORKS 7.1 + ASUS D2X XONAR
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