January 27, 20188 yr Author On 2018-01-26 at 8:32 AM, Ray Proudfoot said: Daniel, Do you have an Ai Traffic package? If so turned it to 0% and see if the problem persists. I’ve had this type of problem before and because I was able to give a precise position of my aircraft with its heading and UT time the Ai author was able to identify the Ai responsible. It was a corrupted texture. Hi Ray, Just tested this flight and for the first time I got through it without a crash. I turned UT Live off for the entire thing. So... looks like that could be the culprit? Now, how do I go about finding the corrupted livery, I wonder? All I know is that it is somewhere around the FASSA waypoint at approximately 19:20 z. Really appreciate your help locking this one down, - Daniel
January 27, 20188 yr Moderator Daniel, Download Traffic Look from Pete Dowson’s site here. http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/ Run it with UT Live running and it shows you all the airborne traffic. The culprit will probably be one of those. Take a screenshot of TL when you get the problem and make sure all columns are visible. Make a note of the time, heading and altitude and include that in your ticket to UTLive support. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 27, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, kevinfirth said: The reason I asked is that since updating win10 to 1709, my P3D CTD on loading any aircraft, addon or default apparently. I was going to uninstall and reinstall the client to see if that fixes it - but apparently v4.2 is inbound very shortly so I may wait for that... Make sure you have the latest Windows update as that problem was fixed. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
January 27, 20188 yr 39 minutes ago, Jim Young said: Make sure you have the latest Windows update as that problem was fixed. Thankyou Jim, most helpful to know its a known issue and resolvable :) Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS
January 29, 20188 yr Author Bad news; got another CTD as before, this time with no AI traffic (UT Live turned off). I'm seeing this error pop up all over the place now; StackHash, ntdll, "a heap has been corrupted" etc. Got two reports this time: Version=1 EventType=APPCRASH EventTime=131616544988496220 ReportType=2 Consent=1 UploadTime=131616544991629562 ReportStatus=268435456 ReportIdentifier=e79273f9-b4e4-4d2e-8b2f-f00437f81321 IntegratorReportIdentifier=1d9cdebe-0b6f-4427-9084-c12700aea655 Wow64Host=34404 NsAppName=Prepar3D.exe AppSessionGuid=00003148-0003-006e-aa8d-761f7898d301 TargetAppId=W:0000f0e3cd7a622a9f58f96eda9e904fcd8500000904!0000fe4ba4844cdbd482c25c2fa58f1644d0a18615dd!Prepar3D.exe TargetAppVer=2017//10//05:18:48:53!2d051c!Prepar3D.exe BootId=4294967295 TargetAsId=1391 Response.BucketId=bd5a8edef405bd159539cecb81fe1d73 Response.BucketTable=4 Response.LegacyBucketId=120849805614 Response.type=4 Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=Prepar3D.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=4.1.7.22841 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=59d67e95 Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=StackHash_f04d Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=10.0.15063.608 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=8274fd8b Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0000374 Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=PCH_39_FROM_ntdll+0x00000000000A5EF4 DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=10.0.15063.2.0.0.768.101 DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID DynamicSig[2].Value=4105 DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1 DynamicSig[22].Value=f04d DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2 DynamicSig[23].Value=f04d669b620c98ba4a740d38bfbad151 DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3 DynamicSig[24].Value=dfa9 DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4 DynamicSig[25].Value=dfa942613b9b35da78c1996a4c170719 UI[2]=C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe UI[3]=Prepar3D exe has stopped working UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem. 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No idea where to turn to now. Would appreciate any suggestions. One thing that has been suggested to me is a clean install of P3D v4 and all my add-ons - something I'd like to avoid, if at all possible (way more time than I have on my hands) - Daniel
January 29, 20188 yr Moderator Hi Daniel, Firstly, I wouldn't bother pasting the full crash report since no-one here can decypher it. Just the headline error is fine. It's still useful because we can eliminate Ai traffic as the cause. Do you have any 3rd party addons that cover that area? if so then disable them and try again. If they still continue then you need to determine the area that flying inside will cause the crash. Move your aircraft to the nearest airport to the N, S, E and W of the area and slew up to 2,000ft. Slew towards the area and keep a note of the lat/lon. This is best achieved with an app that can read the aircraft position but can still be read once P3D crashes. Once you've got 4 sets of lat/lon it should form a rectangle. Supply that info to LM in the form of a ticket. If it's a general problem they should be able to fix it. Post the info here too so others can check if it also happens for them. Saying the problem occurs in Northern Quebec isn't really helpful. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 29, 20188 yr 2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Firstly, I wouldn't bother pasting the full crash report since no-one here can decypher it. Just the headline error is fine. What the member has that is loading is important. What version of Microsoft Visuals and dotnet are important. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
January 29, 20188 yr Moderator 23 minutes ago, Jim Young said: What the member has that is loading is important. What version of Microsoft Visuals and dotnet are important. Well he’s pasted it twice now and I don’t see any comments based on it. Why would the crashes keep happening in the same area if it wasn’t something related to the scenery in that area? I’ve made a reasonable suggestion on how to identify the area affected. Let’s see what that brings. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 29, 20188 yr Thanks Ray. There are many who are complaining about this Quebec route as they are getting crashes there all of the time. I've advised several times they have received a StackHash/0374 Exception and that the solution is pinned at the top of this forum but they do not want to believe me. High settings, a bad overclock, or the mytrafficmil.bgl (if installed) are the only solutions (as you rightly stated in your post). Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
January 29, 20188 yr Moderator Jim, Let’s hope he follows all the advice posted on AvSim. If that doesn’t fix it then it needs reporting to LM via their forum with as much info as possible including 3rd party addons. if it was me I’d revert to the basic sim and default aircraft. That will help narrow the problem. LM don’t test using 3rd party aircraft or scenery. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 29, 20188 yr 3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: if it was me I’d revert to the basic sim and default aircraft. That will help narrow the problem. LM don’t test using 3rd party aircraft or scenery. That's what I recommend starting on page 10 of the AVSIM CTD Guide. One has to investigate his particular situation as not everyone has the same system, same Windows OS, same addons, or same P3D/Display Driver configurations. Just renaming the P3D.cfg and restarting the sim will usually fix most issues (which indicates a high setting or a corrupted config). I remember a few years ago when we both had the same exact errors and it turned out to be objects in MyTrafficX which partially resulted in an upgrade to the current version. There are now known bad textures in some of the MyTrafficX AI (and I understand in other AI programs too) and, when you are flying near the same area all of the time, you will meet up with one of these incompatible AI that your sim is trying to render but cannot and crashes. I wish LM could come up with a certification program for Addons and so each developer gets an official certification. That might help but you know that some add-ons may not be compatible with other add-ons or a combination of other add-ons. For instance, FSDT KLAS and KLAX are not compatible with Orbx SoCal and you have to make make manual modifications to get them to work. It's little things like that that drives one up the wall and I'm nearly at the top of my 40 foot wall. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
January 29, 20188 yr Moderator It seems more important than ever that developers stick to the SDK but already we see it flouted with airports as it’s either too time consuming or complex or both. I’ve had bad Ai textures cause FSX to crash but the weirdest was enabling streams in UT USA which caused a crash SE of Seattle at FL350. I guess you don’t need the streams option on up there. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 30, 20188 yr Author 14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Firstly, I wouldn't bother pasting the full crash report since no-one here can decypher it. Just the headline error is fine. Okay, noted - thank you. 14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Do you have any 3rd party addons that cover that area? if so then disable them and try again. I don't think so - nothing intentional, that's for sure. I don't know if a freeware airport I installed or one of my payware sceneries or programs has an error in it that accidentally puts code in the area (or whatever the terminology is) 14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: If they still continue then you need to determine the area that flying inside will cause the crash. Move your aircraft to the nearest airport to the N, S, E and W of the area and slew up to 2,000ft. Slew towards the area and keep a note of the lat/lon. This is best achieved with an app that can read the aircraft position but can still be read once P3D crashes. Once you've got 4 sets of lat/lon it should form a rectangle. Supply that info to LM in the form of a ticket. If it's a general problem they should be able to fix it. Post the info here too so others can check if it also happens for them. Saying the problem occurs in Northern Quebec isn't really helpful. Okay, I can try this for sure. Although - the crashes don't occur every time, just the majority of times. I did try and slew through there with a stock aircraft and did not get the crash. I did load up the flight plan in the default GPS to follow the exact route... but the error did not occur. I don't think it happens even in the same exact spot with the iFly or the PMDG planes either - it's just always at some point around along the route across northern Quebec. But I'll try and do as you advise and see what I come up with. 11 hours ago, Jim Young said: Thanks Ray. There are many who are complaining about this Quebec route as they are getting crashes there all of the time. I've advised several times they have received a StackHash/0374 Exception and that the solution is pinned at the top of this forum but they do not want to believe me. High settings, a bad overclock, or the mytrafficmil.bgl (if installed) are the only solutions (as you rightly stated in your post). I did read your post, Jim. I removed my overclock some time ago and don't have mytrafficmil.bgl installed. My setting are intentionally fairly low, as I prefer smoothness and high fps to eye candy. I don't have any Orbx or landclass or anything like that - I only use complex airliners and add-on airports (along with AS16 and GSX). I don't use HDR, shadows (except on my plane), road/boat traffic or anything like that. I set my sliders mostly in the middle - I don't even one is all the way to the right. I haven't touched P3D.cfg at all. The only thing I recently turned on was dynamic lighting, and that was only because PMDG, FS Labs and iFly don't have a landing/taxi light option that's anything else (annoyingly) and I can't see to taxi without them. I'll read your post through again and see if there's anything else. 11 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Let’s hope he follows all the advice posted on AvSim. If that doesn’t fix it then it needs reporting to LM via their forum with as much info as possible including 3rd party addons. if it was me I’d revert to the basic sim and default aircraft. That will help narrow the problem. LM don’t test using 3rd party aircraft or scenery. I will do my very best to test as you both have prescribed. My only caveat being an issue of having the time to do it properly, as you have outlined (very busy work, home, etc.) But of course, I am cognisant of all the time and effort you've both to help me and want to make sure I don't waste your effort. Please know how grateful I am for your help. I will report back as soon as... I have something to report, I guess? And then I suppose I should go over to the LM forum to do the same? Thanks again, - Daniel
January 30, 20188 yr I don’t think this crash has anything to do with overclock or settings being too high, especially since it occurs in a relatively sparse scenery area. Seems like an issue either with base P3D or with Orbx scenery. James
January 30, 20188 yr Moderator Daniel, I know it sounds a pain trying to recreate these crashes but unless you can come up with a reproducible scenario LM can't fix it. Try to fly the route at the same time and on the same date once you have got the sim to crash at that time/date. Publish that time/date. It might help if you can post your flight plan and which two waypoints the sim crashes between. Others could then fly that critical part of the route and see if it affects them. Also please confirm your version is P3D v4.1.7.22841. Is that the latest release as betas are released every so often. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
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