FRAME RATES getting murdered. 

can anyone help me with this? 

Ive tried many tweaks with fsx cfg file, dialed back scenery sliders and more.

But still struggling with mid teen numbers with the scenery complexity set at sparse or in the config  file image complexity 2.

Running a fairly high end pc. 

i7 8700k

Geforce gtx 1080

Looking at the graphs the gpu seems to be doing it with ease but the cpus are working pretty hard...

Any suggestions are welcome.  Even somewhere to start...

Cheers

1 hour ago, roostewart6 said:

FRAME RATES getting murdered. 

can anyone help me with this? 

I split this from the old screen shot thread you started in the Screen Shot forum.

The Screen Shot forum is not for help topics. For those instances, just start a new topic in the forum for which you need help, in this case, the FSX forum.

 

Are those frames on the ground with payware airport or in the air? if its heavy payware then 20 fps is about right. Overclocking will help

Delete the fsx.cfg and let the sim build a new one and test again.

Check out what processes are running in the background that could be eating up your CPU

Is FSX SE a fresh install? Is windows a fresh install? if all else fails then a complete disk wipe and reinstall could be on the cards

Hey Zmak,

yea it was a an orbx melbourne payware airport, but even so flying around its not a lot better....

"Delete the fsx.cfg and let the sim build a new one and test again."  Yep Ive had a crack at this.

for a pretty decent GPU and CPU setup, its seems ordinary for the scenery complexity slider to be set at 2 or normal and the frame rate this bad..  Ive done some work testing the sliders, this one seems to cause the main issue, Adjusting image complexity from 1 to 2 in the cfg, halves the Frames per second....

Thanks for the reply

The Avsim FSX Configuration Guide is a good place to start:

 

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by pracines

Thanks for the reply pracines,

Yea, ive adjusted the settings back and forth using this pdf guide, but still not getting the FPS.  It does seem to have a lot to do with the scenery complexity slider draining cpu power...

The gpu (geforce 1080) runs stock standard at approx 20% so its got heaps in reserve.....

Ive tried different affinity mask settings also...(any suggestions here) none seem to make a significant difference.  Watching the resource monitor, its definitely the cpu under load.

Maybe look into overclocking but with an 8700K i wouldnt have thought this would be needed.

Cheers

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by roostewart6
update

Just tested scenery complexity during my pmdg 777 flight (in the air)

at dense frames are 25 fps

at slider full right (extremely dense I think) its still 25fps

GTX 780

i2500k OC to 4.6 ghz

FSX-SE

 

Something up with your sim for sure. What is your water set to? thats the biggest CPU killer

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by zmak

Thats interesting, re. scenery complexity...

Changed the water effects from low 2x to none, maybe 2 FPS better... no significant change...

If I change the scenery complexity from 2 normal back to 1 sparse, it doubles the FPS from ~15 to ~30.

But come on... surely thats not right ey.. 

 

Another thought... would this have anything to do with "add on scenery" maybe??  Has anyone else experienced this?

maybe my scenery library is in the wrong order causing the Cpu to work harder?

I have various add on scenery as well as payware scenery like orbx, airports/ vector/ global etc.

Any possibility this is the problem? 

 

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by roostewart6

Try this

Untick everything except FSX default scenery . see if that makes a difference to your fps

A long shot is you may have your GPU listed twice in your FSX.cfg that caused issues for me

probably a good idea to post a pic of your FSX.cfg

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by zmak

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looks very unremarkable. In fact once your stable you could increase some settings with your high end rig. Noticeably texture max load from 1024 to 2048. pmdg and fsdt recommend it

Anisotropic=0  (should be value 1) select in fsx settings
AntiAlias=0     (should be value 1) select  in fsx settings

you can simulate 4k res by going to nvidea panel / manage 3 d settings / DSR factors / select 4 native /apply

then go to "display settings in FSX and select this resolution .....Mode=3840x2160x32

Best of luck hopefully you will nail the problem.

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by zmak

Thanks for all your help and time zmak.  Appreciate it.  If you think of anything else please let me know.

I will adjust those settings you recommend and keep fiddling about...  Surely someone has had this issue.

 

I did uncheck a lot of scenery back to default and was pinging 100 FPS, but as I gradually added again, the numbers dropped and nothing really stood out as the culprit.

Still the load of the GPU sits around 20% with the Cpu doing all the work

 

Yeah fsx is CPU intensive. Your rig is tailor made for P3D 64 bit where the GPU gets a good workout. Thats what I would do

the other option is buy steves DX10 fixer( Google it) which spreads the load more to the GPU plus gives you shadows etc

Ah yep i have steves DX10 fixer... Anything there that should be checked/unchecked to put more of the load onto the GPU?