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I enjoy flying in XP11 in Samsung Oddssy VR with Cirrus SF50 or the Zibo 737, and I like it as real as it gets with talking to ATC in heavy traffic.

I do sometime fly online on the IVAO network, but I prefer offline mostly.

 

For offline realism I use the combination of:

- P2ATC (ATC)

- World Traffic 3 (Traffic)

- ATC chatter (background ATC chatter)

- MCE (as FO when flying Zibo 737)

- IVONA sounds for ATC and FO

 

Everything is working fine except for two things:

- I can see the WT3 traffic but not shown in my TCAS radar

- P2ATC can's see the WT3 traffic also

 

Finding a solution for the first one, helped me to solve the other .. partially

By this post, from a gentleman call ceo1944:

HERE

 

Basically you have to add AI aircraft manually, not like what WT3 guide stated, to be like this:

UOc2g9K.jpg

 

Now traffic are shown in TCAS radar, and P2ATC is aware of them, and giving me new instructions I never heard it before, like:

- Traffic at 1 O'Clock at 11,000 feet

- Cleared to land number 2

- Aircraft on runway go missed approach

- Lineup and wait

 

It is amazing, really joyful ...

 

The only thing missing is that P2ATC can't control or talk to the WT3, I talked to Dave and told me this is something in WT3 side, I'll try to contact them.

 

Have a look at this video, I was enjoying the decent to Duabi Intl on the back seat of the SF50 and the P2ATC warns me on traffic before the TCAS, so I jumped the captain seat and had a look at the passing by traffic though the windows, then you can see that I looked at the map with all the traffic as back dots in a  usual busy Dubai airport.

 

I would like to thank Dave and P2ATC team for the interaction and for this fabulous app 

Sorry for making this long, I hope you find this useful 

 

 

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2 hours ago, llanddewi said:

Thanks! Awesome indeed! I know interaction with P2A was or is on the agenda for WT3 - see the feature list item 'Finish Pilot2ATC interface' here: http://classicjetsims.com/WorldTraffic/bugs.html

It would be great if this could indeed be finished!!

Good to know, 65% finished as per them, can’t wait.

Have a look at my other video here how it may all work together:

 

Thanks

 

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I have this configuration set up, and p2atc see's all the traffic and it's great.  I get the number 2 for landing instructions, which is also great.  One question though.  Under what circumstances (in this configuration) would i get a 'line up and wait' instruction?  I've been in a line of 4 planes, and moved my way up to the hold short point, and then called in with ready for departure at that point.  P2ATC always just gives me the cleared for takeoff instruction even if the other plane on the runway hasn't gotten off the ground yet.  Wondering what order of steps others are doing to get this instruction.

Thanks,

Joe

 

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I also get no instruction to line up and wait. Why? Is there a special setting which has to be done?

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On ‎5‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 6:22 PM, Wailbal said:

I enjoy flying in XP11 in Samsung Oddssy VR with Cirrus SF50 or the Zibo 737, and I like it as real as it gets with talking to ATC in heavy traffic.

I do sometime fly online on the IVAO network, but I prefer offline mostly.

 

For offline realism I use the combination of:

- P2ATC (ATC)

- World Traffic 3 (Traffic)

- ATC chatter (background ATC chatter)

- MCE (as FO when flying Zibo 737)

- IVONA sounds for ATC and FO

 

Everything is working fine except for two things:

- I can see the WT3 traffic but not shown in my TCAS radar

- P2ATC can's see the WT3 traffic also

 

Finding a solution for the first one, helped me to solve the other .. partially

By this post, from a gentleman call ceo1944:

HERE

 

Basically you have to add AI aircraft manually, not like what WT3 guide stated, to be like this:

UOc2g9K.jpg

 

Now traffic are shown in TCAS radar, and P2ATC is aware of them, and giving me new instructions I never heard it before, like:

- Traffic at 1 O'Clock at 11,000 feet

- Cleared to land number 2

- Aircraft on runway go missed approach

- Lineup and wait

 

It is amazing, really joyful ...

 

The only thing missing is that P2ATC can't control or talk to the WT3, I talked to Dave and told me this is something in WT3 side, I'll try to contact them.

 

Have a look at this video, I was enjoying the decent to Duabi Intl on the back seat of the SF50 and the P2ATC warns me on traffic before the TCAS, so I jumped the captain seat and had a look at the passing by traffic though the windows, then you can see that I looked at the map with all the traffic as back dots in a  usual busy Dubai airport.

 

I would like to thank Dave and P2ATC team for the interaction and for this fabulous app 

Sorry for making this long, I hope you find this useful 

 

 

I'm new to XP11 (from FSX/P3D) and have considered P2A. One stumbling block for me is the P2A required window. That iPhone looking small window to the left that says 'RESET PILOT VIEW" (or something similar); is that the P2A window? 

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On 5/22/2018 at 9:34 AM, furrer411 said:

I also get no instruction to line up and wait. Why? Is there a special setting which has to be done?

It happened to me once, there was a plane on the runway, as it started rolling the ATC asked me to lineup and wait.

It didn't happen again, with many variation I tried 

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The only time you should expect a "Line up and wait" is when there is landing or departing traffic on the runway and final approach is clear.

If there is no traffic on the runway, you will get takeoff clearance.

Dave

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I am not hearing any of the following

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 2:31 PM, Les Parson said:

- Traffic at 1 O'Clock at 11,000 feet

- Cleared to land number 2

- Aircraft on runway go missed approach

- Lineup and wait

does any one have any idea why?

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On 5/31/2018 at 6:11 PM, floydcox said:

I am not hearing any of the following

does any one have any idea why?

Do you see traffic around you or in TCAS radar? 

If no: please use the guide above to set the ai traffic on

If yes: maybe you haven’t got into a situation to trigger the call out as Dave said, keep the traffice slider in WT3 to max to increase the chance

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I used to hear these types of report about a month ago, now nothing other than clearance, taxi and takeoff instructions and radar contact when airborne. I use WT3 and have visible planes that show on the TCAS display on the aircraft GTN750.

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If the traffic does not show on the P2A map, then it is not visible to P2A.  Click the Traffic button under the map (Far right gold airplane) 3 times to show both airborne and ground traffic.

Dave

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Is it because I use world traffic 3 as ai aircraft in x plane 11? if I use laminar research aircraft I assume it might reappear?

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Yes, that would do it.

The first post in this thread points to a topic that outlines how some have been able to make the Laminar AI Traffic, which is visible, be driven by WT3. 

Dave

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19 hours ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

If the traffic does not show on the P2A map, then it is not visible to P2A.  Click the Traffic button under the map (Far right gold airplane) 3 times to show both airborne and ground traffic.

Dave

This information is new for me, thanks 

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I may be doing somthing wrong but im hoping someone will help me with this. I start xplane. load plane and airport. i went into went into world traffic 3 and set up the 19 world traffic AI aircraft. They do show up on the airplanes tcas. they do not register with pilot2atc. i have hit the button at the bottom to show ground and air traffic i have gone into the config and turned it on in there. I even uninstalled Pilot2atc because it seems to be what it isnt working on. All this and it still will not show me the aircraft. As is said world traffic AI are on tcas but not pilot2atc please help me.

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Watch the video posted by Walibal in this thread.  You have to set WT3 up to use X-Plane rendered aircraft.

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I seem to recall running into this problem and I needed to go to the newer version of XPUIPC. I got it from the German site. I'm not home right now so I can't check the version of XPUIPC I have but if you are running an older version it might be worth a try to install the latest.

Mark

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On ‎5‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 6:22 PM, Wailbal said:

I enjoy flying in XP11 in Samsung Oddssy VR with Cirrus SF50 or the Zibo 737, and I like it as real as it gets with talking to ATC in heavy traffic.

I do sometime fly online on the IVAO network, but I prefer offline mostly.

 

For offline realism I use the combination of:

- P2ATC (ATC)

- World Traffic 3 (Traffic)

- ATC chatter (background ATC chatter)

- MCE (as FO when flying Zibo 737)

- IVONA sounds for ATC and FO

 

Everything is working fine except for two things:

- I can see the WT3 traffic but not shown in my TCAS radar

- P2ATC can's see the WT3 traffic also

 

Finding a solution for the first one, helped me to solve the other .. partially

By this post, from a gentleman call ceo1944:

HERE

 

Basically you have to add AI aircraft manually, not like what WT3 guide stated, to be like this:

UOc2g9K.jpg

 

Now traffic are shown in TCAS radar, and P2ATC is aware of them, and giving me new instructions I never heard it before, like:

- Traffic at 1 O'Clock at 11,000 feet

- Cleared to land number 2

- Aircraft on runway go missed approach

- Lineup and wait

 

It is amazing, really joyful ...

 

The only thing missing is that P2ATC can't control or talk to the WT3, I talked to Dave and told me this is something in WT3 side, I'll try to contact them.

 

Have a look at this video, I was enjoying the decent to Duabi Intl on the back seat of the SF50 and the P2ATC warns me on traffic before the TCAS, so I jumped the captain seat and had a look at the passing by traffic though the windows, then you can see that I looked at the map with all the traffic as back dots in a  usual busy Dubai airport.

 

I would like to thank Dave and P2ATC team for the interaction and for this fabulous app 

Sorry for making this long, I hope you find this useful 

 

 

I don't understand how you got to the 19 World Traffic as AI aircraft. You mention one must add manually; can you elaborate? YouTube and WT manuals aren't working for me. 

many thanks. 

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8 hours ago, Les Parson said:

I don't understand how you got to the 19 World Traffic as AI aircraft. You mention one must add manually; can you elaborate? YouTube and WT manuals aren't working for me. 

many thanks. 

You have to add them manually one by one:

- Tap on the “Ai Aircarft (x)” on the top right of the aircraft selection menu

- If you have aircafts listed there, tab on “Edit” beside it

- Select “World Traffic (Other)”, you will not see this option if you don’t install WT3 properly.

- You can add more aircarfts as you like the same way

- Make sure to untick “Randomize aircraft each flight”, just as the 1st picture in beginning of this post.  

 

Enjoy

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4 hours ago, Wailbal said:

You have to add them manually one by one:

- Tap on the “Ai Aircarft (x)” on the top right of the aircraft selection menu

- If you have aircafts listed there, tab on “Edit” beside it

- Select “World Traffic (Other)”, you will not see this option if you don’t install WT3 properly.

- You can add more aircarfts as you like the same way

- Make sure to untick “Randomize aircraft each flight”, just as the 1st picture in beginning of this post.  

 

Enjoy

Thanks for the assistance. It looks like I didn't install WT3 correctly as I don't see the option as you mention in your third point. I will perform a reinstall of WT3. 

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That does work!  So, now the ball is in WT3's court as far as P2ATC talking to WT3 aircraft?  That will be great!

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